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2004-04-15 16:46saltimbocca@gmx.deI just saw their live set (w/ Ableton, synth, guitar, bass, vox) at WMF, Berlin - Incredib

From:: <saltimbocca@gmx.de>
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Date:: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 18:46:26 +0200
Subject:: [idm] Recommended: Telefon Tel Aviv live

I just saw their live set (w/ Ableton, synth, guitar, bass, vox) at WMF, Berlin - Incredible, space sound from all directions! I don't know their albums at all, they reminded me of glitchy Funkstörung-style hiphop. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2004-04-15 18:42MJed5150@aol.comTelefon Tel Aviv's new album "a map of what is effortless" was really good in my opinion.

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Date:: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:42:39 EDT
Subject:: Re: [idm] Recommended: Telefon Tel Aviv live

Telefon Tel Aviv's new album "a map of what is effortless" was really good in my opinion. They added a lot of vocals as compared to their last album, but I thought it was handled well. Their use of live instruments was a nice addition to the tracks too. They used the Loyola University Chamber Orchestra throughout a good chunk of the album, giving the it some nice movement. It's a quality record in my opinion, with some really strong tracks. It's good to hear they play well live too! Mike Jedlicka www.dickandjanerecords.com

2004-04-15 18:54max0666on 4/15/04 1:42 PM, MJed5150@aol.com at MJed5150@aol.com wrote: > Telefon Tel Aviv's new a

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Date:: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:54:50 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] Recommended: Telefon Tel Aviv live
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on 4/15/04 1:42 PM, MJed5150@aol.com at MJed5150@aol.com wrote:

quoted 12 lines Telefon Tel Aviv's new album "a map of what is effortless" was really good

> Telefon Tel Aviv's new album "a map of what is effortless" was really good in > my opinion. They added a lot of vocals as compared to their last album, but > I thought it was handled well. Their use of live instruments was a nice > addition to the tracks too. They used the Loyola University Chamber > Orchestra > throughout a good chunk of the album, giving the it some nice movement. It's > a quality record in my opinion, with some really strong tracks. It's good to > hear they play well live too! > > Mike Jedlicka > www.dickandjanerecords.com >

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2004-04-15 18:54Maximilien LincourtI like it, I think it's a strong release. And I like ultravisor too ... ... so what ... M.

From:: Maximilien Lincourt <maximilien.lincourt@mayametrix.com>
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Date:: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:54:20 -0400
Subject:: RE: [idm] Recommended: Telefon Tel Aviv live
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I like it, I think it's a strong release. And I like ultravisor too ... ... so what ... M.

quoted 4 lines EEK-this is the worst thing ever, well maybe not ever but pretty bad.

> > > EEK-this is the worst thing ever, well maybe not ever but pretty bad. >

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2004-04-15 19:11Eggy ToastI'ven't heard either release, so it's not a comment on any inherent qualities of the recor

From:: Eggy Toast <eggy@eggtastic.com>
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Date:: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:11:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: RE: [idm] Recommended: Telefon Tel Aviv live
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I'ven't heard either release, so it's not a comment on any inherent qualities of the records or their perceived 'goodness' or likeability, but.. it does seem kind of weird for a record to be praised on the "idm" list because it has "more vocals and more real instruments," two things that idm generally doesn't contain. i personally dislike vocals in general which is why i've been such a fan of idm, and although i'm not saying that music with vocals or real instruments are bad, you're more likely to bump into people who *don't* like vocals and real instruments on this list compared to, say, most other music lists. nothing wrong with that. just a dissenting opinion. derek Maximilien Lincourt said:

quoted 18 lines I like it, I think it's a strong release.

> I like it, I think it's a strong release. > > And I like ultravisor too ... > > ... so what ... > > M. > >> >> >> EEK-this is the worst thing ever, well maybe not ever but pretty bad. >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To > unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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2004-04-15 19:27Danny HengI like their latest LP and I think its is good as well Especially their first track When I

From:: Danny Heng <floyd@punkass.com>
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Date:: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 03:27:49 +0800
Subject:: RE: [idm] Recommended: Telefon Tel Aviv live
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I like their latest LP and I think its is good as well Especially their first track When It Happens It Moves All By Itself. I got nothing against vocals as long as its properly done. IDM is about heaps of creativity (I guess). How you do it? with vocals or with pots and pans Doesnt really matter for me. But there is alittle too much hiphop influences getting around thou. Just my personal opinion. Danny At 03:11 PM 4/15/2004 -0400, you wrote:

quoted 13 lines I'ven't heard either release, so it's not a comment on any inherent

>I'ven't heard either release, so it's not a comment on any inherent >qualities of the records or their perceived 'goodness' or likeability, >but.. > >it does seem kind of weird for a record to be praised on the "idm" list >because it has "more vocals and more real instruments," two things that >idm generally doesn't contain. > >i personally dislike vocals in general which is why i've been such a fan >of idm, and although i'm not saying that music with vocals or real >instruments are bad, you're more likely to bump into people who *don't* >like vocals and real instruments on this list compared to, say, most other >music lists.

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2004-04-15 20:23Eggy Toast> I completely agree with you about vocals in electronic music. 99% of > what I listen to

From:: Eggy Toast <eggy@eggtastic.com>
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Date:: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:23:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: [idm] Re: Recommended: Telefon Tel Aviv live

quoted 8 lines I completely agree with you about vocals in electronic music. 99% of

> I completely agree with you about vocals in electronic music. 99% of > what I listen to is without vocals, cause it utterly cheeses me out > completely. I was just impressed by how vocals were used in this > album. I didn't talk about the computer glitchness in the album, > which is what stands out in all of TTA's music, because I thought it > was a given. Also, I enjoy live instruments in IDM when it's done > well very much. I'm not saying you don't have a point, I'm just > clearing up what I posted ...

cool. I feel much the same way -- for instance, I like a lot of Greg Davis's stuff, which is electronic with an acoustic guitar. It's done really well, though, so I don't feel like "oh man, there's a guitar." one of the things I've grown to appreciate about idm is that it really pushes the whole sonic quality of the sounds used. Sometimes, the sound of a real instrument is just what's needed. Same with vocals. I do think one of the things about vocals and real instruments is that since other examples of those sounds are readily available, people pay more attention to them. For instance, we can all understand lyrics and get their overall meaning, which means that unless the vocals are nonsense or really well written, it's going to cheese out the rest of the song. -- eggytoast.com : eggtastic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2004-04-16 21:51saltimbocca@gmx.deWell the vox/no vox argument is a bit narrow-minded for my taste - if it's great music, it

From:: <saltimbocca@gmx.de>
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Date:: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 23:51:07 +0200
Subject:: [idm] Re: Recommended: Telefon Tel Aviv live

Well the vox/no vox argument is a bit narrow-minded for my taste - if it's great music, it's great music! I do agree though that some vocal music can sound cheesy, but so can horrid synth patches on some "online label" stuff I've heard (eg monotonik). It just puts me off completely. I like the way herbert does it: sample bits live, incorporate the vocals on top of that, and just give the listener a kicking track! Tel Aviv did it their way and it sounded incredible. they didn't interfere with the beats at all, which put me off a bit, but then their tunes are all pre-arranged so there really is no room for improvisation. We do it the other way around with my elec-jazz impro project: no vocals, great iinstrumentalists and electronic musicians, and pretty open forms. RLD --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2004-04-20 16:07sk8s_layne@comcast.net"EEK-this is the worst thing ever, well maybe not ever but pretty bad." I agree, i thought

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Date:: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:07:33 +0000
Subject:: [idm] Recommended: Telefon Tel Aviv live

"EEK-this is the worst thing ever, well maybe not ever but pretty bad." I agree, i thought the last album was much better. I hate vocals like the ones on "map of what is effortless" and also think they ruin the new Air album. sk8s

quoted 1 line on 4/15/04 1:42 PM, MJed5150@aol.com at MJed5150@aol.com wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>on 4/15/04 1:42 PM, MJed5150@aol.com at MJed5150@aol.com wrote:

quoted 12 lines Telefon Tel Aviv's new album "a map of what is effortless" was really good

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2004-04-21 16:01saltimbocca@gmx.de> I hate vocals like the ones on "map of what is effortless" and also > think they ruin th

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Date:: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:01:08 +0200
Subject:: [idm] Recommended: Telefon Tel Aviv live

quoted 2 lines I hate vocals like the ones on "map of what is effortless" and also

> I hate vocals like the ones on "map of what is effortless" and also > think they ruin the new Air album.

Yeah, I listened to the album ones and this is exaxtly what I though. It's quite different live though - a guy was singing, and there is not so much hateful r'n'b singing (like on the album if I remember correctly) Rl --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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