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2004-02-01 13:13Patrick Carey [idm] Luomo Live -- more dates?
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2004-02-01 13:13Patrick Carey>For anyone in Austin or around TX... >Earthling prod presents: >3/10/04 @ World Famous An
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quoted 1 line For anyone in Austin or around TX...>For anyone in Austin or around TX...
quoted 3 lines Earthling prod presents:>Earthling prod presents: >3/10/04 @ World Famous Antone's Blue Bar, Austin TX. >Luomo/VladislavDelay /// [Mille Plateaux] /// Live set
This a ONE-off, or are there more NA dates? Vlad needs to git himself a website... -P NP: Lhasa - "The Living Road" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2004-02-01 21:01andrew jonesnah it's a full on tour. i think he's playing in Seattle not sure. I know he's playing Chi
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nah it's a full on tour. i think he's playing in Seattle not sure. I know he's playing Chicago. - A On Sunday, February 1, 2004, at 08:13 AM, Patrick Carey wrote:
quoted 22 lines For anyone in Austin or around TX...>> For anyone in Austin or around TX... > >> Earthling prod presents: >> 3/10/04 @ World Famous Antone's Blue Bar, Austin TX. >> Luomo/VladislavDelay /// [Mille Plateaux] /// Live set > > This a ONE-off, or are there more NA dates? > Vlad needs to git himself a website... > > > -P > > > NP: Lhasa - "The Living Road" > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2004-02-03 05:14Patrick Carey>>>Earthling prod presents: >>>3/10/04 @ World Famous Antone's Blue Bar, Austin TX. >>>Luo
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quoted 3 lines Earthling prod presents:>>>Earthling prod presents: >>>3/10/04 @ World Famous Antone's Blue Bar, Austin TX. >>>Luomo/VladislavDelay /// [Mille Plateaux] /// Live set
quoted 2 lines This a ONE-off, or are there more NA dates?>>This a ONE-off, or are there more NA dates? >>Vlad needs to git himself a website...
* andrew jones <liminal18@mac.com>:
quoted 1 line nah it's a full on tour. i think he's playing>nah it's a full on tour. i think he's playing
in Seattle not sure. I know he's playing Chicago. Ah, OK... maybe because Kinetic is *finally* releasing "The Present Lover" in the US on February 24th. Any idea of the *date* for Chicago, or Seattle? Anyone out there have a list? I think he's against it, but a site would be nice. -P NP: Crustation - "Bloom" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2004-02-03 05:35Frederico OliveiraI don't want to ruin the party, but... the site opened precisely today. http://luomomusic.
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I don't want to ruin the party, but... the site opened precisely today. http://luomomusic.com/
quoted 2 lines Vlad needs to git himself a website...>>>Vlad needs to git himself a website... > I think he's against it, but a site would be nice.
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2004-02-03 14:36pm.carey@utoronto.ca* lim <the_lim@hotmail.com>: >http://www.vladislavdelay.com >his site just needs some actu
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* lim <the_lim@hotmail.com>:
quoted 2 lines http://www>http://www.vladislavdelay.com >his site just needs some actual info :)
Err... anyone know if he actually *owns* this domain? Kinda pointless don't ya think? * Frederico Oliveira <fred@horizonradar.com>:
quoted 2 lines I don't want to ruin the party, but... the site opened precisely today.>I don't want to ruin the party, but... the site opened precisely today. >http://luomomusic.com/
Great! Dates and all... Now... is he doing a LIVE set [ w/ or w/o vocalist(s) ] or just spinning? Lookin' for more dates, but will hit Detroit or NYC if he doesn't head to Toronto/Montreal. -P NP: Boris Kovac(v) & Ladaaba Orchest - "Last Balkan Tango" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2004-02-03 15:25Greg ClowAt 09:36 AM 03/02/04, pm.carey@utoronto.ca wrote: >* lim <the_lim@hotmail.com>: > >http://
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At 09:36 AM 03/02/04, pm.carey@utoronto.ca wrote:
quoted 5 lines * lim <the_lim@hotmail.com>:>* lim <the_lim@hotmail.com>: > >http://www.vladislavdelay.com > >his site just needs some actual info :) > >Err... anyone know if he actually *owns* this domain?
domain: vladislavdelay.com created: 29-Sep-2003 last-changed: 29-Sep-2003 registration-expiration: 29-Sep-2004 nserver: ns23.schlund.de nserver: ns24.schlund.de registrant-firstname: Sasu registrant-lastname: Ripatti registrant-street1: Greifswalder Str. 29 registrant-pcode: 10405 registrant-city: Berlin registrant-ccode: DE Sasu Ripatti is Vladislav Delay's real name, so it's owned by him or someone pretending to be him.
quoted 1 line Kinda pointless don't ya think?>Kinda pointless don't ya think?
I dunno, maybe he just really likes his dog & cat. :) Greg :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Greg Clow ::: greg@stainedproductions.com ::::::::: concert & event promotions ::: http://www.stainedproductions.com :::::: electronic music radio & reviews ::: http://www.feedbackmonitor.com ::: electronic/experimental record label ::: http://www.pieheadrecords.com ::::::::: 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor ::: Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 ::: Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2004-02-03 15:27lazloHe owns and "runs" the site; he's not a web person, but instead let Antye put up that sill
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He owns and "runs" the site; he's not a web person, but instead let Antye put up that silly photo of their dog as a placeholder. Heath Greg Clow wrote:
quoted 41 lines At 09:36 AM 03/02/04, pm.carey@utoronto.ca wrote:> At 09:36 AM 03/02/04, pm.carey@utoronto.ca wrote: > > >* lim <the_lim@hotmail.com>: > > >http://www.vladislavdelay.com > > >his site just needs some actual info :) > > > >Err... anyone know if he actually *owns* this domain? > > domain: vladislavdelay.com > created: 29-Sep-2003 > last-changed: 29-Sep-2003 > registration-expiration: 29-Sep-2004 > > nserver: ns23.schlund.de > nserver: ns24.schlund.de > > registrant-firstname: Sasu > registrant-lastname: Ripatti > registrant-street1: Greifswalder Str. 29 > registrant-pcode: 10405 > registrant-city: Berlin > registrant-ccode: DE > > Sasu Ripatti is Vladislav Delay's real name, so it's owned by him or > someone pretending to be him. > > >Kinda pointless don't ya think? > > I dunno, maybe he just really likes his dog & cat. :) > > Greg > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Greg Clow ::: greg@stainedproductions.com > ::::::::: concert & event promotions ::: http://www.stainedproductions.com > :::::: electronic music radio & reviews ::: http://www.feedbackmonitor.com > ::: electronic/experimental record label ::: http://www.pieheadrecords.com > ::::::::: 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor ::: Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 ::: Canada > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2004-02-03 15:41Neil Wiernikhahaha if you ever met the guy you would understand his sense of humor... On Tue, 3 Feb 20
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hahaha if you ever met the guy you would understand his sense of humor... On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, lazlo wrote:
quoted 55 lines He owns and "runs" the site; he's not a web person, but instead let Antye p> He owns and "runs" the site; he's not a web person, but instead let Antye put > up that silly photo of their dog as a placeholder. > > Heath > > Greg Clow wrote: > > > At 09:36 AM 03/02/04, pm.carey@utoronto.ca wrote: > > > > >* lim <the_lim@hotmail.com>: > > > >http://www.vladislavdelay.com > > > >his site just needs some actual info :) > > > > > >Err... anyone know if he actually *owns* this domain? > > > > domain: vladislavdelay.com > > created: 29-Sep-2003 > > last-changed: 29-Sep-2003 > > registration-expiration: 29-Sep-2004 > > > > nserver: ns23.schlund.de > > nserver: ns24.schlund.de > > > > registrant-firstname: Sasu > > registrant-lastname: Ripatti > > registrant-street1: Greifswalder Str. 29 > > registrant-pcode: 10405 > > registrant-city: Berlin > > registrant-ccode: DE > > > > Sasu Ripatti is Vladislav Delay's real name, so it's owned by him or > > someone pretending to be him. > > > > >Kinda pointless don't ya think? > > > > I dunno, maybe he just really likes his dog & cat. :) > > > > Greg > > > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Greg Clow ::: greg@stainedproductions.com > > ::::::::: concert & event promotions ::: http://www.stainedproductions.com > > :::::: electronic music radio & reviews ::: http://www.feedbackmonitor.com > > ::: electronic/experimental record label ::: http://www.pieheadrecords.com > > ::::::::: 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor ::: Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 ::: Canada > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2004-02-03 15:54lazloYes, he's quite deadpan. Heath Neil Wiernik wrote: > hahaha if you ever met the guy you wo
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Yes, he's quite deadpan. Heath Neil Wiernik wrote:
quoted 77 lines hahaha if you ever met the guy you would understand his sense of humor...> hahaha if you ever met the guy you would understand his sense of humor... > > On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, lazlo wrote: > > > He owns and "runs" the site; he's not a web person, but instead let Antye put > > up that silly photo of their dog as a placeholder. > > > > Heath > > > > Greg Clow wrote: > > > > > At 09:36 AM 03/02/04, pm.carey@utoronto.ca wrote: > > > > > > >* lim <the_lim@hotmail.com>: > > > > >http://www.vladislavdelay.com > > > > >his site just needs some actual info :) > > > > > > > >Err... anyone know if he actually *owns* this domain? > > > > > > domain: vladislavdelay.com > > > created: 29-Sep-2003 > > > last-changed: 29-Sep-2003 > > > registration-expiration: 29-Sep-2004 > > > > > > nserver: ns23.schlund.de > > > nserver: ns24.schlund.de > > > > > > registrant-firstname: Sasu > > > registrant-lastname: Ripatti > > > registrant-street1: Greifswalder Str. 29 > > > registrant-pcode: 10405 > > > registrant-city: Berlin > > > registrant-ccode: DE > > > > > > Sasu Ripatti is Vladislav Delay's real name, so it's owned by him or > > > someone pretending to be him. > > > > > > >Kinda pointless don't ya think? > > > > > > I dunno, maybe he just really likes his dog & cat. :) > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Greg Clow ::: greg@stainedproductions.com > > > ::::::::: concert & event promotions ::: http://www.stainedproductions.com > > > :::::: electronic music radio & reviews ::: http://www.feedbackmonitor.com > > > ::: electronic/experimental record label ::: http://www.pieheadrecords.com > > > ::::::::: 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor ::: Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 ::: Canada > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > -------------------------------------- > [neil adam wiernik aka naw] > neil@dreaming.org > [music available on] > http://www.noisefactoryrecords.com > http://www.pieheadrecords.com > http://www.worthyrecords.com > http://www.complot.ca > [artist features] > http://www.clevermusic.net > http://www.newmusiccanada.com > http://www.cognitionaudioworks.com > -------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2004-02-03 18:53scant intonePatrick and Andrew, According to the Caroline site, his tour looks something like this: LU
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Patrick and Andrew, According to the Caroline site, his tour looks something like this: LUOMO March 5, 2004 Abbey Pub Chicago IL March 6, 2004 Ultra Festival (house stage) - Bay Front Park Miami Beach FL March 7, 2004 Delano Miami Beach FL March 8, 2004 Privilege Miami Beach FL March 10, 2004 Antone's Austin TX March 13, 2004 Panacea Detroit MI March 15, 2004 Sullivan Room NYC NY March 16, 2004 The Kells Allston MA March 17, 2004 Chop Suey Seattle WA March 18, 2004 Milk SF CA March 20, 2004 Holocene Portland OR You can check here for updates: http://www.carolinedist.com/tour/default.asp kh4n++ --Original Message-- Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 16:01:35 -0500 To: idm@hyperreal.org From: andrew jones <liminal18@mac.com> Subject: Re: [idm] Luomo Live -- more dates? Message-Id: <D1DE5904-54F9-11D8-8EC9-0003934AA8EE@mac.com> nah it's a full on tour. i think he's playing in Seattle not sure. I know he's playing Chicago. - A On Sunday, February 1, 2004, at 08:13 AM, Patrick Carey wrote:
quoted 10 lines For anyone in Austin or around TX...>>For anyone in Austin or around TX... > >>Earthling prod presents: >>3/10/04 @ World Famous Antone's Blue Bar, Austin TX. >>Luomo/VladislavDelay /// [Mille Plateaux] /// Live set > >This a ONE-off, or are there more NA dates? >Vlad needs to git himself a website... > >-P
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2004-02-03 19:05Neil Wiernikwhat no candain dates... that suck On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, scant intone wrote: > Patrick and A
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what no candain dates... that suck On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, scant intone wrote:
quoted 64 lines Patrick and Andrew,> Patrick and Andrew, > > According to the Caroline site, his tour looks something like this: > > LUOMO > > March 5, 2004 Abbey Pub Chicago IL > March 6, 2004 Ultra Festival (house stage) - Bay Front Park Miami Beach FL > March 7, 2004 Delano Miami Beach FL > March 8, 2004 Privilege Miami Beach FL > March 10, 2004 Antone's Austin TX > March 13, 2004 Panacea Detroit MI > March 15, 2004 Sullivan Room NYC NY > March 16, 2004 The Kells Allston MA > March 17, 2004 Chop Suey Seattle WA > March 18, 2004 Milk SF CA > March 20, 2004 Holocene Portland OR > > You can check here for updates: > http://www.carolinedist.com/tour/default.asp > > kh4n++ > > > > > --Original Message-- > Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 16:01:35 -0500 > To: idm@hyperreal.org > From: andrew jones <liminal18@mac.com> > Subject: Re: [idm] Luomo Live -- more dates? > Message-Id: <D1DE5904-54F9-11D8-8EC9-0003934AA8EE@mac.com> > > nah it's a full on tour. > i think he's playing > in Seattle not sure. > I know he's playing Chicago. > > - > A > > On Sunday, February 1, 2004, at 08:13 AM, Patrick Carey wrote: > > >>For anyone in Austin or around TX... > > > >>Earthling prod presents: > >>3/10/04 @ World Famous Antone's Blue Bar, Austin TX. > >>Luomo/VladislavDelay /// [Mille Plateaux] /// Live set > > > >This a ONE-off, or are there more NA dates? > >Vlad needs to git himself a website... > > > >-P > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2004-02-04 05:41pm.carey@utoronto.ca* lazlo <muziq@ionet.net>: >>He owns and "runs" the site; he's not a web person, but inste
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* lazlo <muziq@ionet.net>:
quoted 2 lines He owns and "runs" the site; he's not a web person, but instead>>He owns and "runs" the site; he's not a web person, but instead >>let Antye put up that silly photo of their dog as a placeholder.
Didn't think he was a "web" guy, which is why I though *he* would never get a site. Certainly makes sense that Antye would handle it though. It is funny/amusing. * Neil Wiernik wrote:
quoted 1 line hahaha if you ever met the guy you would understand his sense of humor...>hahaha if you ever met the guy you would understand his sense of humor...
I've met him, but chatted very little... Don't think he was in the mood to display any humor that day. * lazlo <muziq@ionet.net>:
quoted 1 line Yes, he's quite deadpan.>Yes, he's quite deadpan.
That's what I've heard... So, if anyone who *knows* him knows if he's doing any live sets (maybe with vocalists) on this tour, let us know, yeah... -P NP: Tara Fuki - "Kapka" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org