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2003-10-07 12:18Marijus S. [idm] Where is non-positive IDM?
├─ 2003-10-07 12:30thorsten Sideb0ard Re: [idm] Where is non-positive IDM?
│ └─ 2003-10-07 14:44Thad Biggerstaff Re: [idm] Where is non-positive IDM?
│ └─ 2003-10-07 14:55vis-you Re: [idm] Where is non-positive IDM?
├─ 2003-10-07 21:05Johan Re: [idm] Where is non-positive IDM?
├─ 2003-10-07 21:52The REAL Mxyzptlk Re: [idm] Where is non-positive IDM?
└─ 2003-10-07 22:09wil maurer Re: [idm] Where is non-positive IDM?
├─ 2003-10-07 22:25John Counts Re: [idm] Where is non-positive IDM?
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└─ 2003-10-07 22:58EggyToast Re: [idm] Where is positive IDM?
└─ 2003-10-07 23:34laz Re: [idm] Where is positive IDM?
└─ 2003-10-08 00:16EggyToast Re: [idm] Where is positive IDM?
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2003-10-07 12:18Marijus S.Hello people out there. A few days ago I somehow put Joey Beltram "Aonox" into my player a
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Hello people out there. A few days ago I somehow put Joey Beltram "Aonox" into my player and caught myself realizing that probably 95% of all IDM that I got recently to listen to is rather positive (if not to say bright/good/happy). And as my mind at the moment is demanding something much less sweet, closer to the real taste of life, darker and not-positive or even negative, I started looking through my collection. Well (from what I know), so far I can name only Autechre DRAFT 7.30 which is just perfect, VSnares in some cases, Plastikman of course...And then I stop :-/ Is it true that most of IDM is reaching our ears in positive-mood format or I just wasn't lucky enough to know the dark side of idm? Any ideas? Peace, M. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-10-07 12:30thorsten Sideb0ardLook for any O.S.T. or Dalglish. Download some exampless from: http://8bitrecs.com/cgi/art
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Look for any O.S.T. or Dalglish. Download some exampless from: http://8bitrecs.com/cgi/artinfo.cgi?artist=OST http://8bitrecs.com/cgi/artinfo.cgi?artist=Dalglish pretty dark stuff. -thor |--- Highpoint Lowlife records -----------------\ | Si-cut.db + Fisk Industries - coming Nov 3rd \ | http://www.highpointlowlife.com -----------------\ On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, Marijus S. wrote:
quoted 29 lines Hello people out there.> Hello people out there. > > A few days ago I somehow put Joey Beltram "Aonox" into my player and > caught myself realizing that probably 95% of all IDM that I got recently to > listen to is rather positive (if not to say bright/good/happy). And as my > mind > at the moment is demanding something much less sweet, closer to the real > taste of > life, darker and not-positive or even negative, I started looking through my > collection. > Well (from what I know), so far I can name only Autechre DRAFT 7.30 which > is just perfect, VSnares in some cases, Plastikman of course...And then I > stop :-/ > Is it true that most of IDM is reaching our ears in positive-mood format or > I just wasn't > lucky enough to know the dark side of idm? Any ideas? > > Peace, > M. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2003-10-07 14:44Thad Biggerstaffother examples of dark idm that come to mind: alec empire (i dont care for the hardcore st
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other examples of dark idm that come to mind: alec empire (i dont care for the hardcore stuff, but check out releases like Generation Star Wars or the one with the brown-ish cover- i forget the name. he also has a dark more ambient release called les Etoiles thats way out there but imo great...) some aphex twin crank third eye foundation if your tastes range beyond the narrow constricts of "idm" (as it should ;) , theres also PLENTY of dark electronic but not idm stuff out there. i could give you suggestions if you like... -Thad --- thorsten Sideb0ard <thorsten@interphaze.org> wrote:
quoted 50 lines Look for any O.S.T. or Dalglish.> > > Look for any O.S.T. or Dalglish. > > Download some exampless from: > http://8bitrecs.com/cgi/artinfo.cgi?artist=OST > http://8bitrecs.com/cgi/artinfo.cgi?artist=Dalglish > > pretty dark stuff. > > -thor > > > |--- Highpoint Lowlife records -----------------\ > | Si-cut.db + Fisk Industries - coming Nov 3rd \ > | http://www.highpointlowlife.com -----------------\ > > On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, Marijus S. wrote: > > > Hello people out there. > > > > A few days ago I somehow put Joey Beltram "Aonox" > into my player and > > caught myself realizing that probably 95% of all > IDM that I got recently to > > listen to is rather positive (if not to say > bright/good/happy). And as my > > mind > > at the moment is demanding something much less > sweet, closer to the real > > taste of > > life, darker and not-positive or even negative, I > started looking through my > > collection. > > Well (from what I know), so far I can name only > Autechre DRAFT 7.30 which > > is just perfect, VSnares in some cases, Plastikman > of course...And then I > > stop :-/ > > Is it true that most of IDM is reaching our ears > in positive-mood format or > > I just wasn't > > lucky enough to know the dark side of idm? Any > ideas? > > > > Peace, > > M. > > > > >
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2003-10-07 14:55vis-youdon't think it's pure idm... but panacea comes to mind.... dark, abrasive, moody,... vis-y
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don't think it's pure idm... but panacea comes to mind.... dark, abrasive, moody,... vis-you nashvegas, tn On Tuesday, October 7, 2003, at 09:44 AM, Thad Biggerstaff wrote:
quoted 115 lines other examples of dark idm that come to mind:> other examples of dark idm that come to mind: > > alec empire (i dont care for the hardcore stuff, but > check out releases like Generation Star Wars or the > one with the brown-ish cover- i forget the name. he > also has a dark more ambient release called les > Etoiles thats way out there but imo great...) > > some aphex twin > > crank > > third eye foundation > > if your tastes range beyond the narrow constricts of > "idm" (as it should ;) , theres also PLENTY of dark > electronic but not idm stuff out there. i could give > you suggestions if you like... > > -Thad > > --- thorsten Sideb0ard <thorsten@interphaze.org> > wrote: >> >> >> Look for any O.S.T. or Dalglish. >> >> Download some exampless from: >> http://8bitrecs.com/cgi/artinfo.cgi?artist=OST >> http://8bitrecs.com/cgi/artinfo.cgi?artist=Dalglish >> >> pretty dark stuff. >> >> -thor >> >> >> |--- Highpoint Lowlife records -----------------\ >> | Si-cut.db + Fisk Industries - coming Nov 3rd \ >> | http://www.highpointlowlife.com -----------------\ >> >> On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, Marijus S. wrote: >> >>> Hello people out there. >>> >>> A few days ago I somehow put Joey Beltram "Aonox" >> into my player and >>> caught myself realizing that probably 95% of all >> IDM that I got recently to >>> listen to is rather positive (if not to say >> bright/good/happy). And as my >>> mind >>> at the moment is demanding something much less >> sweet, closer to the real >>> taste of >>> life, darker and not-positive or even negative, I >> started looking through my >>> collection. >>> Well (from what I know), so far I can name only >> Autechre DRAFT 7.30 which >>> is just perfect, VSnares in some cases, Plastikman >> of course...And then I >>> stop :-/ >>> Is it true that most of IDM is reaching our ears >> in positive-mood format or >>> I just wasn't >>> lucky enough to know the dark side of idm? Any >> ideas? >>> >>> Peace, >>> M. >>> >>> >> > _________________________________________________________________ >>> Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 >> months FREE*. >>> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail >>> >>> >>> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> idm-help@hyperreal.org >>> >> >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > > > ===== > Thad Biggerstaff ~ReSource~ daht73@yahoo.com > > "Not to forget, I 'museumize' myself; so that then I pay myself a > visit and find me again in all the relics, to hand down memories from > one to the other, like a genealogical tree, as if it were morning!" - > Massimo Toniutti > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2003-10-07 21:05JohanI'd have to say Deru - Pushing Air its not -that- dark, but its not 'very happy' either ;
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I'd have to say Deru - Pushing Air its not -that- dark, but its not 'very happy' either ; ) Marijus S. wrote:
quoted 32 lines Hello people out there.> Hello people out there. > > A few days ago I somehow put Joey Beltram "Aonox" into my player and > caught myself realizing that probably 95% of all IDM that I got > recently to > listen to is rather positive (if not to say bright/good/happy). And as > my mind > at the moment is demanding something much less sweet, closer to the > real taste of > life, darker and not-positive or even negative, I started looking > through my collection. > Well (from what I know), so far I can name only Autechre DRAFT 7.30 > which is just perfect, VSnares in some cases, Plastikman of > course...And then I stop :-/ > Is it true that most of IDM is reaching our ears in positive-mood > format or I just wasn't > lucky enough to know the dark side of idm? Any ideas? > > Peace, > M. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >
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2003-10-07 21:52The REAL Mxyzptlk> >Is it true that most of IDM is reaching our ears in positive-mood format >or I just was
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quoted 4 lines Is it true that most of IDM is reaching our ears in positive-mood format> >Is it true that most of IDM is reaching our ears in positive-mood format >or I just wasn't >lucky enough to know the dark side of idm? Any ideas?
I assume you want something fairly recent? Anders Ilar - Everdom (Shitkatapult) (NP) jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-10-07 22:09wil maurermy 2 cents, without reading the comments/responses of others (yet) is that the 'idm' genre
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my 2 cents, without reading the comments/responses of others (yet) is that the 'idm' genre, kind of by default, includes a lot of the more experimental electronic pop (such as the stuff put out by morr/city centre offices/darla & others) which is often a bit too non-conventional to fit into other genres (hip-hop, downtempo, house)... and is essentially happy (sometimes sad) poppy music - but very very electronic nonetheless. the best example I can think of is boards of canada, who do mostly straightforward downtempo instrumental hip-hop, but it's all a bit too tonal for the 'downtempo' set and certainly doesn't fit into the cafe-del-mar 'chillout' style that is (hopefully) on its way out. so we call it 'idm', which is as good as any other name, i guess. at the same time, there's still a great deal of dark, noisy, intellectually dense 'idm' out there - one only needs to look at artists like autechre, phoenica (practically everyone on the schematic label), black dice, venetian snares, push button objects (tho his new album is mellower), while, beta bodega, and probably a host of others (i'm not as well-versed in idm as i'd like to be) including, of course, aphex twin (his new ep is pretty aggro), squarepusher, etc etc etc... personally, i've been feeling the early pbo stuff lately, and the new caural ep... ./wil m. "Marijus S." <mariosanctus@hotmail.com> wrote: Hello people out there. A few days ago I somehow put Joey Beltram "Aonox" into my player and caught myself realizing that probably 95% of all IDM that I got recently to listen to is rather positive (if not to say bright/good/happy). And as my mind at the moment is demanding something much less sweet, closer to the real taste of life, darker and not-positive or even negative, I started looking through my collection. Well (from what I know), so far I can name only Autechre DRAFT 7.30 which is just perfect, VSnares in some cases, Plastikman of course...And then I stop :-/ Is it true that most of IDM is reaching our ears in positive-mood format or I just wasn't lucky enough to know the dark side of idm? Any ideas? Peace, M. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org _________________ _________________ nao/music: http://www.mp3.com/naoko nao/blog: http://speakerslayer.livejournal.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
2003-10-07 22:25John CountsGet Chris Clark's new album "Empty the Bones of You." Very dense and mechanical. There are
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Get Chris Clark's new album "Empty the Bones of You." Very dense and mechanical. There are some brief "pastoral" melodies but the rest is rather ominous. Listen to the last track "Betty" and feel the horseman of Apocalyspe come your way. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-10-07 23:40ff gplease relax w/ the posts..! d --- John Counts <polycyclicism@yahoo.com> wrote: > Get Chri
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please relax w/ the posts..! d --- John Counts <polycyclicism@yahoo.com> wrote:
quoted 16 lines Get Chris Clark's new album "Empty the Bones of> Get Chris Clark's new album "Empty the Bones of > You." Very dense and mechanical. There are some > brief > "pastoral" melodies but the rest is rather ominous. > Listen to the last track "Betty" and feel the > horseman > of Apocalyspe come your way. > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product > search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > >
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2003-10-07 22:58EggyToastAt 03:09 PM 10/7/2003 -0700, you wrote: >personally, i've been feeling the early pbo stuff
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At 03:09 PM 10/7/2003 -0700, you wrote:
quoted 2 lines personally, i've been feeling the early pbo stuff lately, and the new>personally, i've been feeling the early pbo stuff lately, and the new >caural ep...
Oh yeah? How is that caural ep? Zach was nice enough to send me a copy of his first album in exchange for a dub of "maxima" and I really dig it now that I gave it a chance to grow on me. I particularly like the guitary-bits, and the balloon sound, and, err, well that's just the one song, but there are other good songs on that album too. So how is it? And I'm changing the title because I *am* in a good mood and would love to find some modern happy music outside the normal circles. I've been busy encoding all of my CDs to OGG and I found my old cylobian sunset album (w/ diof '97 tacked on) and *really* get a kick out of "instant shrink." Quality stuff, but I don't have a lot that's like that. Simple and pretty without being too saccarine (like Plone). Any tips? derek -- eggytoast.com -- eggtastic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-10-07 23:34lazGlobal Goon - Cradle of History Freescha - What's Come Inside of You Sun Electric - Aaaah!
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Global Goon - Cradle of History Freescha - What's Come Inside of You Sun Electric - Aaaah! EP and to a lesser extent, Kitchen Uzect Plaush - More Beautiful Human Life Thomas Fehlmann - Good Fridge and companion release One To Three And I tend to find Marumari kinda cheerful, too... Heath EggyToast wrote:
quoted 33 lines At 03:09 PM 10/7/2003 -0700, you wrote:> At 03:09 PM 10/7/2003 -0700, you wrote: > >> personally, i've been feeling the early pbo stuff lately, and the new >> caural ep... > > > Oh yeah? How is that caural ep? Zach was nice enough to send me a > copy of his first album in exchange for a dub of "maxima" and I really > dig it now that I gave it a chance to grow on me. I particularly like > the guitary-bits, and the balloon sound, and, err, well that's just > the one song, but there are other good songs on that album too. > > So how is it? > > And I'm changing the title because I *am* in a good mood and would > love to find some modern happy music outside the normal circles. I've > been busy encoding all of my CDs to OGG and I found my old cylobian > sunset album (w/ diof '97 tacked on) and *really* get a kick out of > "instant shrink." Quality stuff, but I don't have a lot that's like > that. Simple and pretty without being too saccarine (like Plone). > > Any tips? > > derek > -- > eggytoast.com -- eggtastic.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2003-10-08 00:16EggyToastAt 06:34 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, you wrote: >And I tend to find Marumari kinda cheerful, too..
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At 06:34 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, you wrote:
quoted 1 line And I tend to find Marumari kinda cheerful, too...>And I tend to find Marumari kinda cheerful, too...
I have his remix album and The Wolves Hollow, although I recall the wolves hollow to be mixed rather annoyingly -- the highs were a bit piercing and loud, making it somewhat annoying to listen to. I don't know if I'm alone on that perception, though... For other marumari fans on the list (and feel free to change the topic accordingly), how do the other albums rate? do they have the same piercing highs that unfortunately ruin some stellar tracks? Or do I just need to bash my eardrums a bit more to really enjoy it ;D derek -- eggytoast.com -- eggtastic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-10-08 11:14JohanEggyToast wrote: > At 06:34 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >> And I tend to find Marumar
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quoted 26 lines At 06:34 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, you wrote:> At 06:34 PM 10/7/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >> And I tend to find Marumari kinda cheerful, too... > > > I have his remix album and The Wolves Hollow, although I recall the > wolves hollow to be mixed rather annoyingly -- the highs were a bit > piercing and loud, making it somewhat annoying to listen to. I don't > know if I'm alone on that perception, though... > > For other marumari fans on the list (and feel free to change the topic > accordingly), how do the other albums rate? do they have the same > piercing highs that unfortunately ruin some stellar tracks? Or do I > just need to bash my eardrums a bit more to really enjoy it ;D > > derek > -- > eggytoast.com -- eggtastic.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >
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