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2003-09-12 19:51Concrete Cookie Re: [idm] Venetian Snares is NOT scary
└─ 2003-09-12 22:15antIDisestablishMentarianism Re: [idm] Venetian Snares is NOT scary
└─ 2003-09-13 16:16Kent williams Re: [idm] Venetian Snares is NOT scary
├─ 2003-09-13 18:40a75 [idm] Stuntrock
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│ └─ 2003-09-14 02:18Shawn Perwick Re: [idm] Stuntrock
└─ 2003-09-13 22:57elektrikon Re: [idm] Venetian Snares is NOT scary
2003-09-14 23:32cutups Re: [idm] Stuntrock
2003-09-15 00:24Rob Sickmode Re: [idm] Stuntrock
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2003-09-12 19:51Concrete CookieI'm 56 and I don't find VS scary or agressive, just energetic, GWB, on the other hand IS s
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I'm 56 and I don't find VS scary or agressive, just energetic, GWB, on the other hand IS scary and agressive. I play anything I enjoy myself when my friends are around and don't really have any rules about what music is good to play when. Sure, It'd be really safe to play some jazz or something slow and 'melodic' but why be safe? Everybody plays that stuff already. Just saw Snares in Los Angeles, and there were 20 of us bouncing around, jumping, picking each other up and it was quite good fun. Not scary at all ;) cookie http://www.mashup.org
quoted 48 lines From: "chthonic" <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>>From: "chthonic" <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> >Reply-To: <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> >To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] Venetian Snares is too scary >Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:34:18 -0700 > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: "Martin Lomas" <mlomas@rogers.com> >Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:11:28 -0400 > > > >I love IDM in many of it's guises, but I find Venetian Snares (& the >like) too scary, too disturbing, too aggressive. Big deal, you might >say. But I'm just wondering where I fell off the "hardcore" wagon. In >my youth, I would be front and centre at shows such as Motorhead, >Black Sabbath, and many other really aggressive acts, loving every >minute. > >So, for you who enjoy the more hardcore electronica - are you >young and carefree, or forever committed to noize, or enduring it for >it's artistic merit, or what? Another question - if you have various >friends over, would put Venetian Snares on? > > >personally, what i've heard of VS i don't much like. there are >certain harsh frequencies i don't appreciate any artist using, >because they just hurt. on top of that, their violent artwork puts me >off a bit. maybe i'm missing the point or lacking context, but to me >there's a difference between the accused "sexist" artwork of brute >on the KMFDM covers (which is clearly an OTT joke and does not >always feature brutalized women), and the VS covers i've seen. > >as for other "hard" electronica, i enjoy somatic responses, >celluloid mata, morgenstern, imminent starvation (though not their >newer incarnation imminent). of course, kid606, aphex twin, and >chris clark have their hard (though not actually distorted) moments. > >if i have friends over i might put on miles davis 'bitches brew', or if it >was a party, the beastie boys or jane's addiction. but not hardcore >electronica. to me that's working, travelling, dancing, or >get-yer-ass-in-gear music. > >d. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2003-09-12 22:15antIDisestablishMentarianismLet's hope you last longer than Scott (aka Grandpa Techno) Forbush did in the gabberscene
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Let's hope you last longer than Scott (aka Grandpa Techno) Forbush did in the gabberscene Concrete Cookie... --- Concrete Cookie <concrete_cookie@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 102 lines I'm 56 and I don't find VS scary or agressive, just> I'm 56 and I don't find VS scary or agressive, just > energetic, GWB, on the > other hand IS scary and agressive. > > I play anything I enjoy myself when my friends are > around and don't really > have any rules about what music is good to play > when. Sure, It'd be really > safe to play some jazz or something slow and > 'melodic' but why be safe? > Everybody plays that stuff already. > > Just saw Snares in Los Angeles, and there were 20 of > us bouncing around, > jumping, picking each other up and it was quite good > fun. Not scary at all > ;) > > cookie > > http://www.mashup.org > > > > > > >From: "chthonic" <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> > >Reply-To: <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> > >To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: Re: [idm] Venetian Snares is too scary > >Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 09:34:18 -0700 > > > >---------- Original Message > ---------------------------------- > >From: "Martin Lomas" <mlomas@rogers.com> > >Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:11:28 -0400 > > > > > > >I love IDM in many of it's guises, but I find > Venetian Snares (& the > >like) too scary, too disturbing, too aggressive. > Big deal, you might > >say. But I'm just wondering where I fell off the > "hardcore" wagon. In > >my youth, I would be front and centre at shows such > as Motorhead, > >Black Sabbath, and many other really aggressive > acts, loving every > >minute. > > >So, for you who enjoy the more hardcore > electronica - are you > >young and carefree, or forever committed to noize, > or enduring it for > >it's artistic merit, or what? Another question - if > you have various > >friends over, would put Venetian Snares on? > > > > > >personally, what i've heard of VS i don't much > like. there are > >certain harsh frequencies i don't appreciate any > artist using, > >because they just hurt. on top of that, their > violent artwork puts me > >off a bit. maybe i'm missing the point or lacking > context, but to me > >there's a difference between the accused "sexist" > artwork of brute > >on the KMFDM covers (which is clearly an OTT joke > and does not > >always feature brutalized women), and the VS covers > i've seen. > > > >as for other "hard" electronica, i enjoy somatic > responses, > >celluloid mata, morgenstern, imminent starvation > (though not their > >newer incarnation imminent). of course, kid606, > aphex twin, and > >chris clark have their hard (though not actually > distorted) moments. > > > >if i have friends over i might put on miles davis > 'bitches brew', or if it > >was a party, the beastie boys or jane's addiction. > but not hardcore > >electronica. to me that's working, travelling, > dancing, or > >get-yer-ass-in-gear music. > > > >d. > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: > idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: > idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > >
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2003-09-13 16:16Kent williamsVenetian Snares is in my opinion brilliant. Not to say always enjoyable, like the 538th ti
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Venetian Snares is in my opinion brilliant. Not to say always enjoyable, like the 538th time you listen to Kraftwerk "Computer World." But jarring, unsettling 'on some other shit' brilliant. My favorites though in that whole genre though are Stuntrock and Emotional Joystick. Stuntrock is a nice guy too, and Aaron Funk, from what I've heard, isn't. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-09-13 18:40a75thanks for the tip kent. googled it and found this: http://home.golden.net/~miq/mp3/D-TRAS
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thanks for the tip kent. googled it and found this: http://home.golden.net/~miq/mp3/D-TRASH29-STUNTROCK-ThePinnacleOfMediocrity/ the breaks programming is not as nuanced as VS but but the samples of dialog (and music) are hilarious (in a juvenile kinda way, but hilarious none the less) and jeez, nice song titles, eh? like: "really harsh noisy breaks dont cover up for lack of talent, or do they?" although does anyone know what this one refers to?: "Anyone who names their track "so & so can kiss my such & such ass" can kiss my (adjective) (noun) ass ;) on 9/13/03 9:16 AM, Kent williams at kent@avalon.net wrote:
quoted 8 lines Venetian Snares is in my opinion brilliant. Not to say always enjoyable, like> Venetian Snares is in my opinion brilliant. Not to say always enjoyable, like > the 538th time you listen to Kraftwerk "Computer World." But jarring, > unsettling 'on some other shit' brilliant. > > My favorites though in that whole genre though are Stuntrock and Emotional > Joystick. Stuntrock is a nice guy too, and Aaron Funk, from what I've heard, > isn't. >
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2003-09-13 18:56thorsten Sideb0ard> although does anyone know what this one refers to?: > > "Anyone who names their track "s
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quoted 4 lines although does anyone know what this one refers to?:> although does anyone know what this one refers to?: > > "Anyone who names their track "so & so can kiss my such & such ass" can kiss > my (adjective) (noun) ass
Yeah, Kid 606 on 'Down With the Scene' had a track called 'Luke Vibert Can Kiss My Indie-Punk Whiteboy Ass' along with other fun titles like 'It'll Take Millions In Plastic Surgery To Make Me Black' and 'In Love With All You Are And Forever Maybe As If My Soul Depended On It To Survive'. -thor --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-09-13 19:05a75Thor! I used the winking smiley after the title. That means I was in on the joke! Stay aft
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Thor! I used the winking smiley after the title. That means I was in on the joke! Stay after class and write ;) on the chalk board 2000 times. ;) on 9/13/03 11:56 AM, thorsten Sideb0ard at thorsten@interphaze.org wrote:
quoted 13 lines although does anyone know what this one refers to?:>> although does anyone know what this one refers to?: >> >> "Anyone who names their track "so & so can kiss my such & such ass" can kiss >> my (adjective) (noun) ass > > Yeah, Kid 606 on 'Down With the Scene' had a track called > 'Luke Vibert Can Kiss My Indie-Punk Whiteboy Ass' along with other fun > titles like 'It'll Take Millions In Plastic Surgery To Make Me Black' and > 'In Love With All You Are And Forever Maybe As If My Soul Depended On It > To Survive'. > > -thor >
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2003-09-13 19:11thorsten@interphaze.org> Thor! I used the winking smiley after the title. That means I was in on the > joke! Stay
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quoted 4 lines Thor! I used the winking smiley after the title. That means I was in on the> Thor! I used the winking smiley after the title. That means I was in on the > joke! Stay after class and write ;) on the chalk board 2000 times. > > ;)
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2003-09-14 02:07Kent williamsHis newer stuff is more err mature in a certain way. "Regret" is amazing. This has turned
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His newer stuff is more err mature in a certain way. "Regret" is amazing. This has turned into a series, the second one is a suicide prevention one, with a thick booklet. On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, a75 wrote:
quoted 3 lines thanks for the tip kent. googled it and found this:> thanks for the tip kent. googled it and found this: > http://home.golden.net/~miq/mp3/D-TRASH29-STUNTROCK-ThePinnacleOfMediocrity/ >
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2003-09-14 02:18Shawn PerwickOn Sat, 13 Sep 2003 11:40:22 -0700, a75 <a@adrien75.com> wrote: > thanks for the tip kent.
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 11:40:22 -0700, a75 <a@adrien75.com> wrote:
quoted 4 lines thanks for the tip kent. googled it and found this:> thanks for the tip kent. googled it and found this: > http://home.golden.net/~miq/mp3/D-TRASH29-STUNTROCK- > ThePinnacleOfMediocrity/ >
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2003-09-13 22:57elektrikonYup...the guy rocked it in LA Wednesday night...it was great to see people dancing and mos
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Yup...the guy rocked it in LA Wednesday night...it was great to see people dancing and moshing around and yes, at times it was sort of scary but the crowd welcomed it (as did i). Definitely not your pretty arovane (is aphex twin ha ha), but everything has it's place. It was surprisingly funky actually and he played some new stuff he recently worked on with otto v. schirach that was off the hook as you can imagine...can't wait for that release. -anon "he who hides his madman dies voiceless" -Henri Michaux on 9/13/03 9:16 AM, Kent williams at kent@avalon.net wrote:
quoted 13 lines Venetian Snares is in my opinion brilliant. Not to say always enjoyable, like> Venetian Snares is in my opinion brilliant. Not to say always enjoyable, like > the 538th time you listen to Kraftwerk "Computer World." But jarring, > unsettling 'on some other shit' brilliant. > > My favorites though in that whole genre though are Stuntrock and Emotional > Joystick. Stuntrock is a nice guy too, and Aaron Funk, from what I've heard, > isn't. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2003-09-14 23:32cutupsThe regret zine/cds come highly recommended for anybody, even if you're not into harsh ele
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The regret zine/cds come highly recommended for anybody, even if you're not into harsh electronic music. Really not as hard/harsh as some of his other stuff (although thats good too - esp addict 6ep) Amazing array of samples and great package. Its simple and brilliant. - cutups ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent williams" <kent@avalon.net> To: "a75" <a@adrien75.com> Cc: "antIDisestablishMentarianism" <harvey_the_black_dog@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Stuntrock
quoted 7 lines His newer stuff is more err mature in a certain way. "Regret" is amazing.> His newer stuff is more err mature in a certain way. "Regret" is amazing. > This has turned into a series, the second one is a suicide prevention one, > with a thick booklet. > > On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, a75 wrote: > > thanks for the tip kent. googled it and found this: > >
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2003-09-15 00:24Rob Sickmodepersonally I'm way more into the splatterbreak type shite he does. but the regret stuff is
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personally I'm way more into the splatterbreak type shite he does. but the regret stuff is pretty cool too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cutups" <cutup@andythepooh.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Stuntrock
quoted 3 lines The regret zine/cds come highly recommended for anybody,> The regret zine/cds come highly recommended for anybody, > even if you're not into harsh electronic music. Really not as > hard/harsh as some of his other stuff (although thats good too - esp
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quoted 14 lines 6ep)> 6ep) > Amazing array of samples and great package. Its simple and brilliant. > > - cutups > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kent williams" <kent@avalon.net> > To: "a75" <a@adrien75.com> > Cc: "antIDisestablishMentarianism" <harvey_the_black_dog@yahoo.com>; > <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 10:07 PM > Subject: Re: [idm] Stuntrock > > > > His newer stuff is more err mature in a certain way. "Regret" is
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quoted 6 lines with a thick booklet.> > with a thick booklet. > > > > On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, a75 wrote: > > > thanks for the tip kent. googled it and found this: > > > >
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2003-09-15 13:24donna summerYeah, regret is awesome! Almost like "real" music! He's absolutely hilarious live! He's st
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Yeah, regret is awesome! Almost like "real" music! He's absolutely hilarious live! He's started doing some stand-up material sort of like "triumph the comic dog". Evidently there's a new stunt rock album coming then a standup comedy one too! YEAH!!!!! Stunt ROCK For Governor of California!!!! DS
quoted 42 lines The regret zine/cds come highly recommended for anybody,>The regret zine/cds come highly recommended for anybody, >even if you're not into harsh electronic music. Really not as >hard/harsh as some of his other stuff (although thats good too - esp addict >6ep) >Amazing array of samples and great package. Its simple and brilliant. > >- cutups >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kent williams" <kent@avalon.net> >To: "a75" <a@adrien75.com> >Cc: "antIDisestablishMentarianism" <harvey_the_black_dog@yahoo.com>; ><idm@hyperreal.org> >Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 10:07 PM >Subject: Re: [idm] Stuntrock > > > > His newer stuff is more err mature in a certain way. "Regret" is >amazing. > > This has turned into a series, the second one is a suicide prevention >one, > > with a thick booklet. > > > > On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, a75 wrote: > > > thanks for the tip kent. googled it and found this: > > > >http://home.golden.net/~miq/mp3/D-TRASH29-STUNTROCK-ThePinnacleOfMediocrity/ > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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