On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 08:02:06 -0400, Peter Becker wrote:
quoted 7 lines On the Schooly D front. I agree with Andrew and Derek
> On the Schooly D front. I agree with Andrew and Derek
> on the
> demerits of looping and sampling others work. Its
> pretty criminal whats been
> done in mainstream Hip Hop. THAT BEING SAID....
>
> Keep in mind that the looping and sampling of Schooly
D
quoted 5 lines and Mantronix ( or
> and Mantronix ( or
> whomever ) is not the looping of said musicians, its
> the looping and
> sampling of the musicians that -they- are stealing
> material from.
I absolutely agree that, especially in the case of
Public Enemy, what is sampled is often a loop that was
itself built out of samples, but the most sampled bit
(at least the one I hear over and over) from Schooly D
is the one bar 808-loop that *he* programmed--you know
it, the heavily reverbed boom! thwack-thwack
boom!-thwack. it has been used over and over and
over--at the original tempo, pitched up, pitched
down--in songs, in commercials i've seen as recently as
the last few months at the movie theatre. and every
time i hear it on a song, i check the credits and there
is never any mention of Schooly D. Mantronix is one of
my favorite artists--regardless of genre--and his beats
are constantly ripped off. And again, I'm taking beats
he programmed, not a loop of his that he created from
bits from others he was sampling. And in those
instances where his created-beats are ripped off,
there's no mention of Kurtis! My opinion on sampling
is, if you're just looping a bar from another artist,
you give them credit and make sure they get paid,
otherwise you'd better be making sure in your sampling
that you're chopping the heck out of stuff and *really*
making something new. Andrew Duke
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