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I'm looking for Ogg encoders for MacOS X. OggDrop and DropOgg listed on the Vorbis seem to have disappeared, while the N2MP3 package costs $60. I simply don't need all the features that it offers, otherwise I would consider shelling out the cash for it. Any help locating sharewarer or freeware ones is appreciated. Again, I'm looking for MacOS X, not Windows or Linux based. Thanks in advance i0 _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

hi, i never have the power to write reviews about discs, but today with all that sun... for me it's not easy to describe it allready like that and doing it in english doesn't makes it better. anyway, the latest freeform is absolutly brilliant ! never heard before of that 'non place' label and just saw in discogs that it's burnt friedman's label with 11 discs by him. seems to be the first no-burnt release. nonplace also has a cool website: http://www.nonplace.de check out atleast the hyper cool artwork of the disc! don't know if it's from his brother but it's superb. i like a lot more this one then the last limited cd 'late surfaces 1990-2000' ! this description is nice and says it all: this disc is the compelling mix of Freeform highlights from the past 7 years. Nonplace provides a introduction to Simon Pyke's finest grooves. All the titles - although derived from the original releases were radically edited "condensed" for predominantly entertaining purposes and remastered to guarantee 100% aural excitement. you see, not really a review but allready a recommendation me too, i guarantee 100% aural excitement cheers, derb --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I second this - but only if you don't already have some of it from elsewhere. It really isn't mixed or changed much, despite some of the things I've heard saying that some of the tracks have been changed a lot. They're all pretty much the original music. If you're looking for an intro to Freeform, or you just want to have a "best of" - this is definitely some of his best work. A superb compilation, for what it is. But if you have a couple Freeform albums already, your money is better spent on more full Freeform albums than on a compilation. These are all relatively easy-to-find tracks, I think, except maybe the first one from his first album. Not to dis this disc, it's definitely a good best-of, but there's nothing rare or special, if you already have most or all of the albums. (and I'll get around to updating my freeform discog someday soon...) -Adam Quoting derb <derb@klangforschungost.org>:

quoted 48 lines hi,

> hi, > > i never have the power to write reviews about discs, but today with all > that > sun... > for me it's not easy to describe it allready like that and doing it in > english > doesn't makes it better. > anyway, the latest freeform is absolutly brilliant ! > never heard before of that 'non place' label and just saw in discogs > that > it's burnt > friedman's label with 11 discs by him. seems to be the first no-burnt > release. > nonplace also has a cool website: http://www.nonplace.de > > check out atleast the hyper cool artwork of the disc! > don't know if it's from his brother but it's superb. > > i like a lot more this one then the last limited cd 'late surfaces > 1990-2000' ! > > this description is nice and says it all: > this disc is the compelling mix of Freeform highlights from the past 7 > years. > Nonplace provides a introduction to Simon Pyke's finest grooves. All > the > titles - > although derived from the original releases were radically edited > "condensed" for > predominantly entertaining purposes and remastered to guarantee 100% > aural > excitement. > > you see, not really a review but allready a recommendation > > me too, i guarantee 100% aural excitement > > > cheers, > derb > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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I think OggDrop is still there: http://www.nouturn.com/oggdrop/ And some other 3rd party software seems to be able to encode as well: http://www.vorbis.com/software.psp?pid=4 Not that I've used any Mac stuff. I run linux. -Adam Quoting iteration zero <iterationzero@hotmail.com>:

quoted 24 lines I'm looking for Ogg encoders for MacOS X. OggDrop and DropOgg listed on

> I'm looking for Ogg encoders for MacOS X. OggDrop and DropOgg listed on > the > Vorbis seem to have disappeared, while the N2MP3 package costs $60. I > simply > don't need all the features that it offers, otherwise I would consider > > shelling out the cash for it. Any help locating sharewarer or freeware > ones > is appreciated. Again, I'm looking for MacOS X, not Windows or Linux > based. > > Thanks in advance > i0 > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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On Thursday, April 17, 2003, at 01:22 AM, adam@damek.org wrote:

quoted 4 lines Quoting iteration zero <iterationzero@hotmail.com>:

> Quoting iteration zero <iterationzero@hotmail.com>: >> I'm looking for Ogg encoders for MacOS X. OggDrop and DropOgg listed >> on >> the

What shits me is that iTunes has *no* OGG support. They're a company embracing open source standards, yet they can't support OGG? I don't get that. R - -- - Ryan Verner <xfesty@computeraddictions.com.au> PGP: 5819 DE5D B5AE 9381 7E60 5B4C 45CC 64DF D3CC EB07 ICQ: 76626240 IRC: xf / irc.oublinet.net PH: +61 418 186 604 EQ: Mummer (Bard), Tholuxe In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. [PGP signature removed] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

including open-source software into your original-work is always a legal nightmare in terms of retaining your own rights. until then, here you go : http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/13012 for rippping to Ogg Vorbis in OSX i use a funky port of cdparanoia passed to the vorbis encoder. but for mortals who just want to get done with it, this is the best option right now : http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/18883 as a side note, i keep meaning to modify this applescript : http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/13048 to use the command-line vorbis encoder as a backend but who has the time with all these damn email lists ! -=dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Verner" <xfesty@computeraddictions.com.au>

quoted 8 lines Quoting iteration zero <iterationzero@hotmail.com>:

> > Quoting iteration zero <iterationzero@hotmail.com>: > >> > >> I'm looking for Ogg encoders for MacOS X. OggDrop and DropOgg listed > > What shits me is that iTunes has *no* OGG support. > > They're a company embracing open source standards, yet they can't > support OGG? I don't get that.

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i had forgotten it was called (?) timeless decceleration (it's only written in rather small letters on the back cover). you can see the front cover at http://www.republika.pl/plastiqe/TRESOR/Dyskografia/Dok1.htm (the purple cover top left). it's a double cd with three tracks: agai (70 min), all (55 min), you (10 min). all and you are from 1993, composed by udo heitfeld, produced by tv victor, recorded and coproduced by moritz von oswald. all is rather boring minimalistic easy listening techno and you is a good ambient tune. agai is why the release is worth the money. it's a slow captivating groove, and that's about it. but even though it's 70 minutes long you don't get bored. enough small things happen to keep it interesting. hs __________________________________________________________ http://www.hotbrev.com/ - N?tets farligaste e-postadresser --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

oops, forgot to mention: agai is written by tv victor in 1999, and mastered by moritz von oswald. the 2xCD was released in 2000 (iirc) by tresor records (tresor.151) hs -----Original Message-----

quoted 2 lines it's a double cd with three tracks: agai (70 min), all (55 min), you

> it's a double cd with three tracks: agai (70 min), all (55 min), you > (10 min).

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You're right, it's called 'Timeless Deceleration' and it's all about Agai. It's amazing how that song can hold you for 70 minutes and although it very repetitive it's not at all boring. I like listening and trying to figure out how the song is subtly evolving. Does TV Victor have any other releases available? - c At 08:04 PM 5/16/03 +0200, henrik strömberg wrote:

quoted 29 lines i had forgotten it was called (?) timeless decceleration (it's only

>i had forgotten it was called (?) timeless decceleration (it's only >written in rather small letters on the back cover). you can see the front >cover at >http://www.republika.pl/plastiqe/TRESOR/Dyskografia/Dok1.htm (the purple >cover top left). > >it's a double cd with three tracks: agai (70 min), all (55 min), you (10 >min). >all and you are from 1993, composed by udo heitfeld, produced by tv >victor, recorded and coproduced by moritz von oswald. all is rather boring >minimalistic easy listening techno and you is a good ambient tune. > >agai is why the release is worth the money. it's a slow captivating >groove, and that's about it. but even though it's 70 minutes long you >don't get bored. enough small things happen to keep it interesting. > >hs > > > > >__________________________________________________________ >http://www.hotbrev.com/ - Nätets farligaste e-postadresser > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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SE/30 wrote:

quoted 2 lines including open-source software into your original-work is always a legal

> including open-source software into your original-work is always a legal > nightmare in terms of retaining your own rights.

Not if it's got a BSD-style license like Ogg - which more or less means "do as you please with this code, but give us credit" and which shouldn't lead to legal nightmares... ,---- [ http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/ ] | Xiph.org's Vorbis software libraries (libvorbis and vorbisfile) are | distributed under a BSD-like license; these libraries may be used by any | application, Open or proprietary, linked or incorporated in whole, so long | as acknowldgement is made to Xiph.org Foundation when using our codec | source in whole or in derived works. See the file 'COPYING' in the source | for all the details. `---- So there's really nothing that should hold Apple back from incorporating it in their free audio playthings - except Apple itself... -- Kurt Bernhard Pruenner --- Haendelstrasse 17 --- 4020 Linz --- Austria .......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I-N"....... np: NachtPlank - Carhaix (Sleepy Town Manufacture Mix) (Lost And Damaged) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org