no no, that would be 1) trespassing and 2) the theater offers you a
service of a big sound system, a giant screen to stare at and a comfy
chair to sit in, much like recod labels offer you a nice little package
with purty cover art for the immaterial ideas that you seek. if you
think this house example was a good example of an immaterial concept you
seriously need to back off of your dogma for a little while and think
about what we are talking about here.
John Hager wrote:
quoted 5 lines hahaha good call.
>hahaha good call.
>...or how about it's not piracy
>because Michael Jackson won't be looking for
>a missing cd.
>
its not theft unless i've deprived you of something.
quoted 114 lines kinda like saying
>
>kinda like saying
>it's ok to sneak into a movie theater and watch
>Star Wars without paying
>because George Lucas won't
>be missing his original digital cut.
>
>john
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>>>>c <c@scarcelight.com> 03/12/03 02:00PM >>>
>>>>
>>>>
>i like this immaterial object angle.....thats kind of like saying that
>since houses are built with wood that the builders dont really have a
>right
>to sell them, and you can go live in the house for free, cause the
>arrangement of wood and nails into some kind of order cannot be
>copywritten.
>
>
>pixilated wrote:
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>>Sophistry? The idea of authorial ownership is very much tied up with
>>copyright and the idea of a work as an immaterial object. If you
>>
>>
>don't
>
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>>see how this relates to the issue of free MP3s, you need to think a
>>little harder.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: John Reading [mailto:john.reading@us.didata.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:30 PM
>>To: idm@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: RE: [idm] Indie Ethics
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: pixilated [mailto:pixilated@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG]
>>>
>>>No. Records cost money because records cost you money to produce.
>>>
>>>
>It
>
>
>>>costs you nothing if someone somehow replicates the music that is
>>>produced when that record is played. The product you are selling
>>>
>>>
>when
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>>>you sell a record is a RECORD. The "music" isn't even on there; it
>>>
>>>
>is
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>>>in the air and in your brain when you play it on a turntable.
>>>Otherwise it's just grooves on vinyl.
>>>
>>>
>>sophistry.
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>>
>>>What I am saying is that it seems strange
>>>that you could claim sole ownership of the vibrations in the
>>>air that I
>>>experience as music.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Who claiming this? Entitlement issues with free mp3s has nothing to
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>do
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>>with this.
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