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Greetings! Wouldn't it be easier if there was a messageboard that everyone could read and post at will instead of filling all of our inbox's with garbage? I know i'm not alone in the fact, that i have to just delete most of mail right off.. Especially with the EGAY spammers.. If I'm interested in your stuff, i will do a search for it. I know alot of us use message boards daily. Why wouldn't this work? I see it now, the "IDM Board" i'm thiniking something like this only IDM minded.. and some better colors... http://www.nubreaks.com/forum/ cheers --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

quoted 5 lines I know alot of us use message boards daily. Why wouldn't this work? I see it

> I know alot of us use message boards daily. Why wouldn't this work? I see it > now, the "IDM Board" i'm thiniking something like this only IDM minded.. and > some better colors... > > http://www.nubreaks.com/forum/

this is a great fucking idea. everybody unsub, and go use a message board! thanks Mr. Vorhees for your groundbreaking idea! see you on the message boards. :) -kiya iamacopierltd. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 01:18 AM, Jason Vorhees wrote:

quoted 3 lines I know alot of us use message boards daily. Why wouldn't this work? I

> I know alot of us use message boards daily. Why wouldn't this work? I > see it now, the "IDM Board" i'm thiniking something like this only IDM > minded.. and some better colors...

i'll switch to a message board if its able to filter posts from certain people and of certain topics, plus each user should be able to delete an entire thread from their view with the click of one button. it should also go out to all other message boards that each user goes to, pull down those posts, and present each of them in an easy to read, easy to parse, easy to sort format and present them on a per-user basis. oh, and it should accept and send all posts via email as well, because message boards suck. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Jason Vorhees wrote:

quoted 1 line Wouldn't it be easier if there was a messageboard

> Wouldn't it be easier if there was a messageboard

If you think the posts are getting moronic now, you should see what happens when any idiot with a web browser can read and post. I was running some general message boards on Hyperreal for a while, and they utterly sucked. For every decent thread, there were fifty off-topic posts from trolls, bigots, spammers, and people who just clearly have not one single clue about what they are talking about. Yes, it would be "easier" but there is a huge price you pay for that convenience: even with user registration, the overall quality and the signal-to-noise ratio go WAY down. Using an old-fashioned mailing list that enforces plain text content raises the bar sufficiently to keep out most, but obviously not all, of the riff-raff. It's a bit like running a telnet-based chat server (these days) rather than full-blown IRC. Mike -- Denver, Colorado, USA http://hyperreal.org/~mike/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 01:45:25PM -0800, Mike Brown wrote:

quoted 16 lines Jason Vorhees wrote:

> Jason Vorhees wrote: > > Wouldn't it be easier if there was a messageboard > > If you think the posts are getting moronic now, you should see what happens > when any idiot with a web browser can read and post. I was running some > general message boards on Hyperreal for a while, and they utterly sucked. For > every decent thread, there were fifty off-topic posts from trolls, bigots, > spammers, and people who just clearly have not one single clue about what they > are talking about. > > Yes, it would be "easier" but there is a huge price you pay for that > convenience: even with user registration, the overall quality and the > signal-to-noise ratio go WAY down. Using an old-fashioned mailing list that > enforces plain text content raises the bar sufficiently to keep out most, but > obviously not all, of the riff-raff. It's a bit like running a telnet-based > chat server (these days) rather than full-blown IRC.

If you want to see how bad a messageboard can get then look no further than www.watmm.com/forum Neil -- Are we going to the same place If so can I come? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 13 lines If you think the posts are getting moronic now, you should see what happens

> If you think the posts are getting moronic now, you should see what happens > when any idiot with a web browser can read and post. I was running some > general message boards on Hyperreal for a while, and they utterly sucked. For > every decent thread, there were fifty off-topic posts from trolls, bigots, > spammers, and people who just clearly have not one single clue about what they > are talking about. > > Yes, it would be "easier" but there is a huge price you pay for that > convenience: even with user registration, the overall quality and the > signal-to-noise ratio go WAY down. Using an old-fashioned mailing list that > enforces plain text content raises the bar sufficiently to keep out most, but > obviously not all, of the riff-raff. It's a bit like running a telnet-based > chat server (these days) rather than full-blown IRC.

This is why the Warp forum got taken down. Introducing registration to it didn't solve the problems and the comments from posters were becoming offensive to the label staff. Some people just want to take and don't realise what they are doing to other people. This could be perceived as fascism on behalf of the label, or bigotry from the posters. Which is worse. Warp decided they didn't want the people visiting the site to think that their music was associated with a limited, vocal, few on the message list. Rather sad don't you think? ... Have some care and attention. Big up the Ninja crew for keeping their forum going. I know they've had shit directed at their staff before and contemplated > /dev/null for the whole lot. I'm reading this thread alongside reading Cory Doctrow's "down and out in the magic kingdom" [ http://www.craphound.com/down/ ] and can't help wondering how Whuffle would affect this all ... Goes with my idea of a distributed collaborative A&R system to replace record labels too ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 03:45 PM 2/22/2003, Mike Brown wrote:

quoted 10 lines Jason Vorhees wrote:

>Jason Vorhees wrote: > > Wouldn't it be easier if there was a messageboard > >If you think the posts are getting moronic now, you should see what happens >when any idiot with a web browser can read and post. I was running some >general message boards on Hyperreal for a while, and they utterly sucked. For >every decent thread, there were fifty off-topic posts from trolls, bigots, >spammers, and people who just clearly have not one single clue about what >they >are talking about.

Additionally, the noise part of "signal to noise" has historically been a part of IDM-l (as much as it is of IDM) for ages. It's like philosophical trends...the pendulum swings this way and that. Sure it can be annoying and insipid. Everybody gets close to and some do unsub. There are moderated lists (Lance's idm-m via yahoogroups is a great alternative) for those who get tired of the noise factor. The grain of salt you take with this list *is* the possible advent of irrelevant ballyhoo. People mark themselves; if anybody gets too noisy, the killfiles go up (I suspect most of us have filters which have for their targets IDM-l posters) and the public censure comes down. The list has a certain charm about it and an atmosphere which, to some extent, lends itself to noise and sarcasm. Not to champion the idiotic, but just to say that an email list without heavy moderation pays a certain price for its "freedom". That's the way it be sometimes. jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org