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[idm] Re: PCness and unspeakability

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2003-01-15 09:16iteration zero Re: [idm] afx/ab 5/eBay
2003-01-15 14:24seeklektek Re: [idm] afx/ab 5/eBay
2003-01-15 14:41Peter Heide Re: [idm] afx/ab 5/eBay
└─ 2003-01-15 17:09ben gill [idm] Re: PCness and unspeakability
2003-01-15 18:48ben gill Re: [idm] Re: PCness and unspeakability
└─ 2003-01-15 19:01Parker Posey Rules Re: [idm] Re: PCness and unspeakability
2003-01-15 19:12Jason Stickel Re: [idm] Re: PCness and unspeakability
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2003-01-15 09:16iteration zero>I knew it ! > >The record will go to a japanese. Those japs a CRAZY. i'm sure >the vinyl
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quoted 10 lines I knew it !>I knew it ! > >The record will go to a japanese. Those japs a CRAZY. i'm sure >the vinyl will never see daylight again. Down in the safe among the >the van gogh's and school-girl videos. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >This post qualifies for Godwin's Law.
You know, Hitler and the Nazis had help from the Japanese in WW2. (Did that count?) i0 _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-15 14:24seeklektekFrom: "iteration zero" Subject: Re: [idm] afx/ab 5/eBay > >I knew it ! > > > >The record w
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quoted 6 lines I knew it !> >I knew it ! > > > >The record will go to a japanese. Those japs a CRAZY. i'm sure > >the vinyl will never see daylight again. Down in the safe among the > >the van gogh's and school-girl videos. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------
quoted 1 line This post qualifies for Godwin's Law.> >This post qualifies for Godwin's Law.
quoted 3 lines You know, Hitler and the Nazis had help from the Japanese in WW2.> You know, Hitler and the Nazis had help from the Japanese in WW2. > (Did that count?) > i0
I did not write that idiocy about Japanese people: I made a comment on the message that contained those ridiculous and disturbing statements. Note the Original Message and its authorship below: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Heide" <peter@heide.1a.dk> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 5:07 AM Subject: Re: [idm] afx/ab 5/eBay I knew it ! The record will go to a japanese. Those japs a CRAZY. i'm sure the vinyl will never see daylight again. Down in the safe among the the van gogh's and school-girl videos. The Original Message qualifies as Godwin's Law, as the mention of Japanese peoples in such context is *ludicrous* and *completely* *unnecessary*. Racism is *ugly*. .o0O}seeklektek{O0o. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-15 14:41Peter HeideOkay stop now . I have NOTHING against people from Japan. I'm not a racist. ..i'm just a c
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Okay stop now . I have NOTHING against people from Japan. I'm not a racist. ..i'm just a crook ! It was just to make a little bit fun. infact i love music from japan like: merzsbow, susumu yokota, joseph nothing,YMO and cannibal ishii. I love all races......and animals too. but somebody would do the world a favor and kill that fucker August Pinochet. have to go now grandpaw is back home ----- Oprindelig meddelelse ----- Fra: "seeklektek" <eclectic@attbi.com> Til: "iteration zero" <iterationzero@hotmail.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sendt: 15. januar 2003 15:24 Emne: Re: [idm] afx/ab 5/eBay
quoted 60 lines From: "iteration zero"> From: "iteration zero" > Subject: Re: [idm] afx/ab 5/eBay > > > > >I knew it ! > > > > > >The record will go to a japanese. Those japs a CRAZY. i'm sure > > >the vinyl will never see daylight again. Down in the safe among the > > >the van gogh's and school-girl videos. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > >This post qualifies for Godwin's Law. > > > > You know, Hitler and the Nazis had help from the Japanese in WW2. > > (Did that count?) > > i0 > > > I did not write that idiocy about Japanese people: I made a comment on the > message that contained those ridiculous and disturbing statements. > > > Note the Original Message and its authorship below: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Heide" <peter@heide.1a.dk> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 5:07 AM > Subject: Re: [idm] afx/ab 5/eBay > I knew it ! > The record will go to a japanese. Those japs a CRAZY. i'm sure > the vinyl will never see daylight again. Down in the safe among the > the van gogh's and school-girl videos. > > > > > > > The Original Message qualifies as Godwin's Law, as the mention of > Japanese peoples in such context is *ludicrous* and *completely* > *unnecessary*. > > > Racism is *ugly*. > > > .o0O}seeklektek{O0o. > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2003-01-15 17:09ben gillThis guy does a good job of walking the line between racism and comedy. I mean, what, Eddi
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This guy does a good job of walking the line between racism and comedy. I mean, what, Eddie Murphy or Chris Rock on race stereotypes is far more extreme...and don't give me that crap about being able to talk shit about only your own race. Talk shit about one, same as talking shit about all. At least respect the balls it takes to put yourself out there as a comedian, with the very strong possibility that you'll be branded as a racist (as has already happened here, I gather). B/c freedom of speech means freedom of death... Ben --- Peter Heide <peter@heide.1a.dk> wrote:
quoted 96 lines Okay stop now .> Okay stop now . > > I have NOTHING against people from Japan. I'm not a > racist. ..i'm just a crook ! > It was just to make a little bit fun. infact i love > music from japan like: merzsbow, > susumu yokota, joseph nothing,YMO and cannibal > ishii. > > I love all races......and animals too. > > but somebody would do the world a favor and kill > that fucker August Pinochet. > > have to go now grandpaw is back home > > ----- Oprindelig meddelelse ----- > Fra: "seeklektek" <eclectic@attbi.com> > Til: "iteration zero" <iterationzero@hotmail.com>; > <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sendt: 15. januar 2003 15:24 > Emne: Re: [idm] afx/ab 5/eBay > > > > From: "iteration zero" > > Subject: Re: [idm] afx/ab 5/eBay > > > > > > > >I knew it ! > > > > > > > >The record will go to a japanese. Those japs a > CRAZY. i'm sure > > > >the vinyl will never see daylight again. Down > in the safe among the > > > >the van gogh's and school-girl videos. > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > >This post qualifies for Godwin's Law. > > > > > > > You know, Hitler and the Nazis had help from the > Japanese in WW2. > > > (Did that count?) > > > i0 > > > > > > I did not write that idiocy about Japanese people: > I made a comment on the > > message that contained those ridiculous and > disturbing statements. > > > > > > Note the Original Message and its authorship > below: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peter Heide" <peter@heide.1a.dk> > > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 5:07 AM > > Subject: Re: [idm] afx/ab 5/eBay > > I knew it ! > > The record will go to a japanese. Those japs a > CRAZY. i'm sure > > the vinyl will never see daylight again. Down in > the safe among the > > the van gogh's and school-girl videos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Original Message qualifies as Godwin's Law, as > the mention of > > Japanese peoples in such context is *ludicrous* > and *completely* > > *unnecessary*. > > > > > > Racism is *ugly*. > > > > > > > .o0O}seeklektek{O0o. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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2003-01-15 18:48ben gill> > I mean, what, Eddie Murphy or > > Chris Rock on race stereotypes is far more > > extre
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quoted 14 lines I mean, what, Eddie Murphy or> > I mean, what, Eddie Murphy or > > Chris Rock on race stereotypes is far more > > extreme...and don't give me that crap about being > able > > to talk shit about only your own race. Talk shit > > about one, same as talking shit about all. > > > Great examples: > I don't find either Eddie Murphy nor Chris Rock to > be funny, particularly > not > when they attack any racial dynamic: > so there you go.
Seek, I never said they were funny. Read carefully. I said they were more extreme. And now I'm saying that yes, people find that funny. And now I'll say that yes, I find them funny. If you don't, that's OK. But realize others do, and allow their point of view to exist in tandem with yours.
quoted 3 lines It wouldn't be so fucking funny to you, perhaps, if> It wouldn't be so fucking funny to you, perhaps, if > you were > Japanese.
Fuck yeah, dude. Damn str8. I agree completely. But I'm just a honky, so I laugh at that shit, while I know others cringe.
quoted 8 lines Freedom of speech includes the freedom to speak> Freedom of speech includes the freedom to speak > one's > mind about racism: I call it as I see it: freely > speaking. > > And *I* *do* have the *balls* to say what *I* really > mean *and* > to say it *mean*.
Oy vey...don't you see that your support is also Peter's? And those stars--now I know you mean business. Thanks for clearing that up. Off to watch Teletubbies, Ben __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-15 19:01Parker Posey RulesIt's a good thing geeks were not insulted otherwise there would be mayhem on the list. You
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It's a good thing geeks were not insulted otherwise there would be mayhem on the list. You have to some level of geekiness to be on this list. ben gill <gillette_foamy@yahoo.com> wrote:> > I mean, what, Eddie Murphy or
quoted 13 lines Chris Rock on race stereotypes is far more> > Chris Rock on race stereotypes is far more > > extreme...and don't give me that crap about being > able > > to talk shit about only your own race. Talk shit > > about one, same as talking shit about all. > > > Great examples: > I don't find either Eddie Murphy nor Chris Rock to > be funny, particularly > not > when they attack any racial dynamic: > so there you go.
Seek, I never said they were funny. Read carefully. I said they were more extreme. And now I'm saying that yes, people find that funny. And now I'll say that yes, I find them funny. If you don't, that's OK. But realize others do, and allow their point of view to exist in tandem with yours.
quoted 3 lines It wouldn't be so fucking funny to you, perhaps, if> It wouldn't be so fucking funny to you, perhaps, if > you were > Japanese.
Fuck yeah, dude. Damn str8. I agree completely. But I'm just a honky, so I laugh at that shit, while I know others cringe.
quoted 8 lines Freedom of speech includes the freedom to speak> Freedom of speech includes the freedom to speak > one's > mind about racism: I call it as I see it: freely > speaking. > > And *I* *do* have the *balls* to say what *I* really > mean *and* > to say it *mean*.
Oy vey...don't you see that your support is also Peter's? And those stars--now I know you mean business. Thanks for clearing that up. Off to watch Teletubbies, Ben __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
2003-01-15 19:12Jason StickelPeople are far too hung up on race these days. Having been the lone whitey growing up in a
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People are far too hung up on race these days. Having been the lone whitey growing up in an all black neighborhood I have seen my share of ehtnic jabs (both verbal and otherwise) and, believe me, it goes both ways. Granted, there is no better place to be than a caucasian male in this society as far as race and gender goes, but the simple point is that people need to lighten up. And yes, Eddie Murphy and Chris Rock are two funny-ass brothers. JS
quoted 61 lines From: ben gill <gillette_foamy@yahoo.com>>From: ben gill <gillette_foamy@yahoo.com> >To: seeklektek <eclectic@attbi.com>, idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] Re: PCness and unspeakability >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:48:58 -0800 (PST) > > > > I mean, what, Eddie Murphy or > > > Chris Rock on race stereotypes is far more > > > extreme...and don't give me that crap about being > > able > > > to talk shit about only your own race. Talk shit > > > about one, same as talking shit about all. > > > > > > Great examples: > > I don't find either Eddie Murphy nor Chris Rock to > > be funny, particularly > > not > > when they attack any racial dynamic: > > so there you go. > >Seek, I never said they were funny. Read carefully. >I said they were more extreme. And now I'm saying >that yes, people find that funny. And now I'll say >that yes, I find them funny. If you don't, that's OK. > But realize others do, and allow their point of view >to exist in tandem with yours. > > > It wouldn't be so fucking funny to you, perhaps, if > > you were > > Japanese. > >Fuck yeah, dude. Damn str8. I agree completely. But >I'm just a honky, so I laugh at that shit, while I >know others cringe. > > > Freedom of speech includes the freedom to speak > > one's > > mind about racism: I call it as I see it: freely > > speaking. > > > > And *I* *do* have the *balls* to say what *I* really > > mean *and* > > to say it *mean*. > >Oy vey...don't you see that your support is also >Peter's? And those stars--now I know you mean >business. Thanks for clearing that up. > > >Off to watch Teletubbies, > >Ben > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. >http://mailplus.yahoo.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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