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2002-12-18 03:25Martin LomasJust posted my annual year-end mini-reviews, about half of which might be IDM http://membe

From:: Martin Lomas <mlomas@rogers.com>
To:: Hypereal IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:25:28 -0500
Subject:: [idm] Year-End Mini-Reviews

Just posted my annual year-end mini-reviews, about half of which might be IDM http://members.rogers.com/mlomas/2Reviews2002.html

2002-12-18 14:55adam@damek.orgQuoting Martin Lomas <mlomas@rogers.com>: > Just posted my annual year-end mini-reviews, a

From:: <adam@damek.org>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:55:09 -0600 (CST)
Subject:: [idm] Mums, Sigur Ros (was re: Year-End Mini-Reviews)
Reply to:: [idm] Year-End Mini-Reviews

Quoting Martin Lomas <mlomas@rogers.com>:

quoted 4 lines Just posted my annual year-end mini-reviews, about half of which might

> Just posted my annual year-end mini-reviews, about half of which might > be IDM > > http://members.rogers.com/mlomas/2Reviews2002.html

From the page: Mum - Finally we are no one (Fat Cat, 2002) Mum have shown their wide-ranging prowess on previous releases in a mostly techno vein, albeit dynamic and melody-bound. Here, they effortlessly ease into another direction, that of sweet, emotional and dreamy electronic pop... [etc.] Mum - The Szabotnik 15 Mission (Klein, 2002) A prolific year for Mum. And again, a different direction here; left field and funky. Brilliantly executed grooves... [etc.] There are two groups called "Mum", right? One with the little accent over the "u", the other without the accent? These two reviews are not the same Mum, right? On another note, I was selling a ton of my music at Other Music the other day, and decided to use some of the cash they paid me to pick up the new Sigur Ros album. What a complete waste! I can't imagine anything more boring than "()" (or was it "(("? Or maybe "[|") Seriously, their previous album has it's beautiful moments, but this one is just, like, "tinkle tinkle tinkle, drone drone drone, moan moan moan tinkle," etc. etc. AAAAUUUGH!!! I don't know about everybody else, but they just took everything I liked about the first album and got rid of it, leaving only the boring bits, which only served to make me realize that I haven't listened to their first ablum in over a year because it's frankly not *that* amazing, so I'm selling them both. Sorry, I just had to vent there. 2002 saw a few good things here and there, but overall it was full of disappointments and "blah" moments. Both musically and politically... Looking back at everyone's "best of 2002, the horror" responses, I saw more mentions of things I had forgotten in my own list, quite good stuff, like Proswell & Machine Drum & ML & Susumu Yokota, but really 2002 just disappointed overall. I guess it just makes me appreciate the good stuff all the more... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2002-12-18 15:34M Mercer>There are two groups called "Mum", right? One with the little accent over >the "u", the o

From:: M Mercer <vletrmx@hotmail.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:34:59 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] Mums, Sigur Ros (was re: Year-End Mini-Reviews)

quoted 4 lines There are two groups called "Mum", right? One with the little accent over

>There are two groups called "Mum", right? One with the little accent over >the "u", the other without the accent? These two reviews are not the same >Mum, >right?

I think the reviewer thinks they are one and the same but they are definitely not. M?m (pronounced moom) is from Iceland and from what I can tell MUM is a duo from Vienna...

quoted 20 lines On another note, I was selling a ton of my music at Other Music the other

>On another note, I was selling a ton of my music at Other Music the other >day, >and decided to use some of the cash they paid me to pick up the new Sigur >Ros >album. What a complete waste! I can't imagine anything more boring than >"()" >(or was it "(("? Or maybe "[|") > >Seriously, their previous album has its beautiful moments, but this one is >just, like, "tinkle tinkle tinkle, drone drone drone, moan moan moan >tinkle," >etc. etc. AAAAUUUGH!!! I don't know about everybody else, but they just >took >everything I liked about the first album and got rid of it, leaving only >the >boring bits, which only served to make me realize that I haven't listened >to >their first ablum in over a year because it's frankly not *that* amazing, >so >I'm selling them both.

sorry you were so disappointed, but I couldn't disagree more. Sigur R?s is on my top 5 for the year. I think it's actually better than the previous release, because it flows more as a complete album rather than a collection of songs. I could see if your expectations were for more of the same, or for concise pop songs, that it would be a disappointment but I think it more than delivers as far as an accomplished album is concerned... certainly darker in places as well. Ah, well, that's personal taste for you :-)

quoted 9 lines 2002 saw a few good things here and there, but overall it was full of

>2002 saw a few good things here and there, but overall it was full of >disappointments and "blah" moments. Both musically and politically... >Looking >back at everyone's "best of 2002, the horror" responses, I saw more >mentions of >things I had forgotten in my own list, quite good stuff, like Proswell & >Machine Drum & ML & Susumu Yokota, but really 2002 just disappointed >overall. >I guess it just makes me appreciate the good stuff all the more...

I honestly think 2002 was quite exciting for music. I think, however, a lot of what excited me had little or nothing to do with traditional IDM fare. I feel like techno continues to mutate and evolve in new and interesting ways, that there are a variety of new rock-format bands that are recombining old tricks with new approaches.... I posted a list last week, so I won't go into that again, but I feel like more than ever there is a lot happening out there... m.mercer :: design + sound sound: http://www.mattmercer.com design: http://www.matthewmercer.com _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2002-12-18 17:07adam@damek.orgQuoting M Mercer <vletrmx@hotmail.com>: > sorry you were so disappointed, but I couldn't d

From:: <adam@damek.org>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:07:46 -0600 (CST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] Mums, Sigur Ros (was re: Year-End Mini-Reviews)
Reply to:: Re: [idm] Mums, Sigur Ros (was re: Year-End Mini-Reviews)

Quoting M Mercer <vletrmx@hotmail.com>:

quoted 10 lines sorry you were so disappointed, but I couldn't disagree more. Sigur Rós

> sorry you were so disappointed, but I couldn't disagree more. Sigur Rós > is > on my top 5 for the year. I think it's actually better than the previous > release, because it flows more as a complete album rather than a > collection > of songs. I could see if your expectations were for more of the same, or > for > concise pop songs, that it would be a disappointment but I think it more > than delivers as far as an accomplished album is concerned... certainly > darker in places as well. Ah, well, that's personal taste for you :-)

I certainly wasn't looking for pop songs - I'm not a pop song person (well, usually). I just feel the new album certainly flows a whole lot more, in the sense of a fog that's just the same all the way through with no variation, and you just can't wait to get through it. I'd agree it's personal taste! :) As far as I'm concerned, it *is* more of the same, except that the stuff that's the same is not what I had expected or hoped would be the same. I guess you could say I had hoped they would go one way, but instead they went another.

quoted 4 lines I honestly think 2002 was quite exciting for music. I think, however, a

> I honestly think 2002 was quite exciting for music. I think, however, a > lot > of what excited me had little or nothing to do with traditional IDM > fare. I

Definitely agree; the stuff that I did like had little or anything to do with traditional "IDM" fare. On the other hand, a lot of the new stuff that everyone else was excited about, I guess I just don't care for. I did fall in love with books again, though, so that was nice. Everyone go read Kim Stanley Robinson! I'm also going through a cleansing phase (that sounds so new-agey!), and have sold away about half my CD collection (I got rid of almost 400 CDs in the past few months). It can be fun to get rid of crap you've hardly ever played since buying it - sometimes not for years! -Adam --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2002-12-18 17:14EggyToast>. I did fall in >love with books again, though, so that was nice. Everyone go read Kim St

From:: EggyToast <eggy@eggytoast.com>
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Date:: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:14:08 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] Mums, Sigur Ros (was re: Year-End Mini-Reviews)
Reply to:: Re: [idm] Mums, Sigur Ros (was re: Year-End Mini-Reviews)

quoted 3 lines . I did fall in

>. I did fall in >love with books again, though, so that was nice. Everyone go read Kim Stanley >Robinson!

I'm about 3/4 of the way through Nelson Algren's "Man with the Golden Arm." It inspired me to go buy more, so after that's finished I'll be working on "Never Come Morning" and then I'll see if I can find "Walk on the Wild Side" which is supposed to be his best stuff. He won the first national book award. Tis a shame that he's starting to be eclipsed by time. derek -- eggytoast.com -------------- commerce soon: eggtastic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2002-12-18 19:39Warren's Rectum>>. I did fall in >>love with books again, though, so that was nice. Everyone go read Kim

From:: Warren's Rectum <idmlist@hotmail.com>
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Date:: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:39:26 +0000
Subject:: Re: [idm] Mums, Sigur Ros (was re: Year-End Mini-Reviews)

quoted 10 lines . I did fall in

>>. I did fall in >>love with books again, though, so that was nice. Everyone go read Kim >>Stanley >>Robinson! > >I'm about 3/4 of the way through Nelson Algren's "Man with the Golden Arm." > It inspired me to go buy more, so after that's finished I'll be working >on "Never Come Morning" and then I'll see if I can find "Walk on the Wild >Side" which is supposed to be his best stuff. >

since you've opened the OT discussion floodgates... recently my roommate lent me his copy of Tom Robbins 'Skinny Legs and All'... and I haven't been so strongly influenced by a book since I read 1984 in high school, or Breakfest of Champions after that... this is the first Robbins I've read, and though I'm not even through with the book I'm this close to proclaiming Robbins as my favorite author... by far my best discovery in 2002.... _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2002-12-20 03:43basecki saw mum live.. i think im in love with twins.. and 3 others.. -derrick -----------------

From:: baseck <baseck@antisocial.com>
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Date:: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:43:17 -0600
Subject:: [idm] Re:[idm] Mums, Sigur Ros (was re: Year-End Mini-Reviews)

i saw mum live.. i think im in love with twins.. and 3 others.. -derrick ---------------------------------------------- Original Message From: ""<adam@damek.org> Subject: [idm] Mums, Sigur Ros (was re: Year-End Mini-Reviews) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:55:09 -0600 (CST)

quoted 9 lines Quoting Martin Lomas <mlomas@rogers.com>:

>Quoting Martin Lomas <mlomas@rogers.com>: >> Just posted my annual year-end mini-reviews, about half of which might >> be IDM >> >> http://members.rogers.com/mlomas/2Reviews2002.html > >>>From the page: >Mum - Finally we are no one (Fat Cat, 2002) > Mum have shown their wide-ranging prowess on previous releases in a

mostly

quoted 1 line techno vein, albeit dynamic and melody-bound. Here, they effortlessly ease

>techno vein, albeit dynamic and melody-bound. Here, they effortlessly ease

into

quoted 1 line another direction, that of sweet, emotional and dreamy electronic pop...

>another direction, that of sweet, emotional and dreamy electronic pop...

[etc.]

quoted 2 lines Mum - The Szabotnik 15 Mission (Klein, 2002)

>Mum - The Szabotnik 15 Mission (Klein, 2002) > A prolific year for Mum. And again, a different direction here; left

field

quoted 4 lines and funky. Brilliantly executed grooves... [etc.]

>and funky. Brilliantly executed grooves... [etc.] > >There are two groups called "Mum", right? One with the little accent over >the "u", the other without the accent? These two reviews are not the same

Mum,

quoted 3 lines right?

>right? > >On another note, I was selling a ton of my music at Other Music the other

day,

quoted 1 line and decided to use some of the cash they paid me to pick up the new Sigur

>and decided to use some of the cash they paid me to pick up the new Sigur

Ros

quoted 1 line album. What a complete waste! I can't imagine anything more boring than

>album. What a complete waste! I can't imagine anything more boring than

"()"

quoted 3 lines (or was it "(("? Or maybe "[|")

>(or was it "(("? Or maybe "[|") > >Seriously, their previous album has it's beautiful moments, but this one

quoted 1 line just, like, "tinkle tinkle tinkle, drone drone drone, moan moan moan

>just, like, "tinkle tinkle tinkle, drone drone drone, moan moan moan

tinkle,"

quoted 1 line etc. etc. AAAAUUUGH!!! I don't know about everybody else, but they just

>etc. etc. AAAAUUUGH!!! I don't know about everybody else, but they just

took

quoted 1 line everything I liked about the first album and got rid of it, leaving only

>everything I liked about the first album and got rid of it, leaving only

the

quoted 1 line boring bits, which only served to make me realize that I haven't listened

>boring bits, which only served to make me realize that I haven't listened

quoted 1 line their first ablum in over a year because it's frankly not *that* amazing,

>their first ablum in over a year because it's frankly not *that* amazing,

quoted 6 lines I'm selling them both.

>I'm selling them both. > >Sorry, I just had to vent there. > >2002 saw a few good things here and there, but overall it was full of >disappointments and "blah" moments. Both musically and politically...

Looking

quoted 1 line back at everyone's "best of 2002, the horror" responses, I saw more

>back at everyone's "best of 2002, the horror" responses, I saw more

mentions of

quoted 2 lines things I had forgotten in my own list, quite good stuff, like Proswell &

>things I had forgotten in my own list, quite good stuff, like Proswell & >Machine Drum & ML & Susumu Yokota, but really 2002 just disappointed

overall.

quoted 7 lines I guess it just makes me appreciate the good stuff all the more...

>I guess it just makes me appreciate the good stuff all the more... > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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