Long reply here, so watch out! I had to post to this thread as i've been
an avid fan of all things MBM related for well over 10 years now. Some of you
might just delete this message, some of you might skim through it.. either way,
if you're slightly into MBM, or are considering the new album, please read
below for some interesting arguments.. ;)
---------
Brian Albers wrote::
:: Meat Beat Manifesto- RUOK?
:: Should've been called 'Music for Stoners.' Gone are any hints of the big
:: beat acid-y techno that has been his trademark over the past handful of
:: albums, and instead we get an album of slow- and mid-paced instrumental
:: dub.
Since when was MBM considered "Big-Beat Acid-y Techno"?? I can see your
point with the "big-beat" and "acid-y" references, but it's pretty harsh to
consider MBM in the "techno" genre when his true signature lies in a solid
beat molded to rumbling basslines. Of course, not all of it falls into this
space,
but a majority of MBM does. You also labelled the new 'RUOK?' as "mid-paced
instrumental dub", while a couple tracks may range slightly in this direction i
wouldn't say the entire album is as such. 'RUOK?' blends instrumental
electronics to a more subdued minimal electronic frequency. Some of the
tracks, such as "Yuri", "No Echo In Space" and "Retrograde" delve more into
experimental territory than usual MBM..
Brian Albers wrote::
:: MBM is now relegated to the same status as NIN in that I won't even bother
:: with the studio albums any more, but I'll keep my fingers crossed for the
:: remixes
Why would you label MBM in the same group as NIN? Doesn't make too much
sense to me considering that Jack Dangers decided to leave Nothing (Trent's
label) for obvious reasons, indeed.
EggyToast wrote::
:: Hey, thanks for the review. I had been contemplating picking this up
:: but had held off after reviewing my previous MBM material (and
:: realizing that the hit to filler ratio is pretty equal, tipping actually
towards
:: filler) and figured I'd wait until the reviews came in.
Did you consider Brian Albers opinions above as a review? Did it accurately
describe the music or did it suggest a point of view from the perspective of
one persons opinions? Do a simple search for MBM's 'RUOK?' reviews, and
you might be surprised to hear what people have been saying. It's quite
astonishing to say the least. 'RUOK?' subtracts the vocals from previous
album, minimizes the layers of vocal-samplings and multiplies the degree
of basslines, percussion, and experimental frequencies 10-fold..
Maybe these reviews of 'RUOK?' will help:
http://www.earpollution.com/v2/reviews/reviews-display.asp?var=4136
http://www.igloomag.com/document.php?task=printview&id=303&category=reviews
http://www.dimple.com/pages/type2u.asp?StoryID=1289
EggyToast wrote::
:: Speaking of which, has anyone picked up the Tino's Breaks "Halloween
:: Dub" release? How's that compared to previous tino material?
We've been playing this on our program for several weeks. If you're looking
for the "spookier" side of the TinoCorp "Breaks" series of releases, then this
is the title for you. As suggested, DUB/Reggae is the focus on this release
and it further compliments the continued success of this series..
Andrew Hime wrote::
:: I dunno, I've never understood why this list so reveres a band I associate
:: with leather pants wearing rivetheads. Ooh, distorted vocals! It's about as
:: menacing as those teens in the haunted house I went to last night. Damn
:: that Slipknot t-shirt and ICP facepaint shore is SCARY!
Andrew, RUOK? That's all i really have to say.
EggyToast wrote::
:: No, err, "acid again" and "prime audio soup," and a few other tracks off
:: Actual Sounds. After picking up some of the earlier albums, I decided that
:: Jack Dangers really can't rap nor sing, so stopped buying back catalog
stuff.
Did you consider 1992's Satyricon full-length? This album is packed with many
great vocal/lyric-driven tracks such as "Edge of no Control", "Placebo",
"Mindstream", "Circles" et cetera et cetera.
EggyToast wrote::
:: So, I just like the stuff he's done for other people and the few tracks
:: he'd had remixed by really great artists. I mean, the first 4 Tino's
:: Breaks LPs were fantastic, and some of the compilation stuff Mr. Dangers
:: has done under his own name is really good.
Have you heard any of the Flexi-Disc series of releases, the sub-label of
TinoCorp called "Sounds of the 20th Century"? These feature a more
abstract field-recording based style with radio-frequencies, disjointed
conversations and odd electrical currents. You might also be into the
JD release of 'Variaciones Espectrales' where 7 tracks were composed
in 7 days for the Bella Union/Instinct record label. If you enjoy the remix
skills Jack has done for countless bands, maybe you'd be into Brooklyn
Music presents 'Pro.File.01' with Jack Dangers/MBM Remix Collection
compiling 11 of remixes from the likes of DHS, NIN, David Bowie, Deepsky,
Atomic Babies, The Shamen, David Byrne, Freddy Fresh, Banco de Gaia,
Papa Brittle and Tino himself!
EggyToast wrote::
:: But, yeah, especially for the early stuff, not only is it cheesy, it really
:: attracted the wrong crowd :D
Not sure what you mean here.. are you commenting on the "Industrial"
tag that MBM was lumped under in the days of '99%' & 'Storm the Studio'?
You consider these to be cheesy?
CAPOIIEE@aol.com wrote::
:: but while jack dangers is irritating on the microphone, he is a genius
:: with a sequencer and a sampler...
Totally agree with you on this one..
CAPOIIEE@aol.com wrote::
:: meat beat is a genre on its own, and that's what makes it quality.
Excellent point here.. MBM have always been rather hard to describe
when it comes to a particular genre. But then, i think Jack wants it that
way too.. :D
More information on all things MBM related:
TinoCorp :: www.tinocorp.com
MBM Site :: www.brainwashed.com/mbm
MBM Historical Site :: www.digitalchemist.com/mbm
---------
Pietro.
|| digital::nimbus | :: experimental electronic radio :: ||
|| friday night mid-3am (pst) | www.digitalnimbus.com ||
|| kuci 88.9 fm | p.o. box 443 | orange | california, 92856 ||
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org
For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org