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Re: [idm] british hip hop

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2002-10-29 02:03Philip Sherburne [idm] british hip hop
├─ 2002-10-29 01:57Joel Fever Re: [idm] british hip hop
└─ 2002-10-29 02:24EggyToast Re: [idm] british hip hop
2002-10-29 02:30Aaron D Meyers Re: [idm] british hip hop
└─ 2002-10-29 04:50Alan R. Lockett Re: [idm] british hip hop
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2002-10-30 01:51doeznot allow Re: [idm] british hip hop
└─ 2002-10-30 01:57Joel Fever Re: [idm] british hip hop
2002-10-30 02:01cutups Re: [idm] british hip hop
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2002-10-29 02:03Philip Sherburnedoesn't suck in the slightest. some quality shit: roots manuva new flesh deckwrecka an old
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doesn't suck in the slightest. some quality shit: roots manuva new flesh deckwrecka an old IG Culture hip hop record i can't remember the name of ms dynamite and for good measure, some absolutely sick french hip hop is by TTC. i have no idea what they're saying, but it's fun as hell... three crazy intertwining MCs with whiney voices and rollercoaster cadences. not for everyone, i realize. :) philip sherburne managing editor, flavorpill sf http://www.flavorpill.net contributing editor, neumu http://www.neumu.net/needledrops do you want new wave or do you want the truth? http://www.audio.bobblehead.org/phil.html
2002-10-29 01:57Joel Feverokay if british hip hop is considered "good" then so is american dnb...after enough time w
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okay if british hip hop is considered "good" then so is american dnb...after enough time we all come around. -Joel Philip Sherburne <psherburne@mindspring.com> wrote:doesn't suck in the slightest. some quality shit: roots manuva new flesh deckwrecka an old IG Culture hip hop record i can't remember the name of ms dynamite and for good measure, some absolutely sick french hip hop is by TTC. i have no idea what they're saying, but it's fun as hell... three crazy intertwining MCs with whiney voices and rollercoaster cadences. not for everyone, i realize. :) philip sherburne managing editor, flavorpill sf http://www.flavorpill.net contributing editor, neumu http://www.neumu.net/needledrops do you want new wave or do you want the truth? http://www.audio.bobblehead.org/phil.html DJ Joel Fever Dancehall Reggae/Hard Step Jungle [3 Decker SoundSystem - MA,Satalite SoundSystem,Neverending Echo - MA] 11.06.02 Dubmission Cambridge, MA 11.12.02 All reggae set @ Vertigo (state st. boston) 11.21.02 All reggae set @ Regis College 235 wellesley st. Weston ma (8-10) 11.23.02- BADONKADONK special dancehall set and Hind Claw set (asylum) MIXES FOUND @ http://www.neverending-echo.com/audio.htm --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site
2002-10-29 02:24EggyToastAt 06:03 PM 10/28/2002 -0800, you wrote: >doesn't suck in the slightest. some quality shit
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At 06:03 PM 10/28/2002 -0800, you wrote:
quoted 3 lines doesn't suck in the slightest. some quality shit:>doesn't suck in the slightest. some quality shit: > >roots manuva
Ah ah ah! I'm not familiar with the other artists you mentioned, but mr. manuva, although born and raised in south london, had very jamaican parents, and his rapping style is very similar to other jamaican artists. I'm talking about the slow, vowelly, typical "british" accented type of rap. Sure, mr. Manuva certainly qualifies as "a british rapper," but I wouldn't call him "british rap." derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- kills germs on contact --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-10-29 02:30Aaron D Meyershow about The Streets? i really like the album. its like british hip hop + 2 step. fun. --
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how about The Streets? i really like the album. its like british hip hop + 2 step. fun. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-10-29 04:50Alan R. LockettGor blimey, leave i' ou', ma'e, know wo'a mean... same pianah loop playin' oveah an' oveah
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Gor blimey, leave i' ou', ma'e, know wo'a mean... same pianah loop playin' oveah an' oveah, inni' ;-) Marrying po-mo barrow-boy Eastender/Essex-isms with knowingly cheesy sub-garage beats and frankly tedious keyboard or orchestral loops does not add up to 'British hip hop'. Can't understand why the critics went apeshit over this and gave it a Mercury Music Prize or some such. Or perhaps I can, all too easily. Queasy listening. alan/beyond...sound Quoting Aaron D Meyers <adm226@nyu.edu>:
quoted 9 lines how about The Streets? i really like the album. its like british hip hop +> how about The Streets? i really like the album. its like british hip hop + > 2 step. fun. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-10-29 08:59leeg@soundtree.fsnet.co.ukU all should check out the beats the DJ Sky aka Stasis has written L. ____________________
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U all should check out the beats the DJ Sky aka Stasis has written L. _______________________________________________________________________ Freeserve AnyTime, only £13.99 per month with one month's FREE trial! For more information visit http://www.freeserve.com/time/ or call free on 0800 970 8890 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-10-30 01:51doeznot allowBorn and raised in the UK but he's not british? I seeee... So he's lived for 30 years in t
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Born and raised in the UK but he's not british? I seeee... So he's lived for 30 years in the UK and none of that culture rubbed off on him and therefore his music is 100% jamaican. Eh ooook... Hmmm
quoted 5 lines From: EggyToast <eggy@eggytoast.com>>From: EggyToast <eggy@eggytoast.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] british hip hop >Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:24:58 -0500 >
mr. manuva, although born and raised in south london, had very
quoted 16 lines jamaican parents, and his rapping style is very similar to other jamaican>jamaican parents, and his rapping style is very similar to other jamaican >artists. I'm talking about the slow, vowelly, typical "british" accented >type of rap. Sure, mr. Manuva certainly qualifies as "a british rapper," >but I wouldn't call him "british rap." > >derek >------- >eggytoast.com >------- >kills germs on contact > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2002-10-30 01:57Joel FeverYou can live in england all your life (in Jamaican sections) and pick up more Jamaican tha
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You can live in england all your life (in Jamaican sections) and pick up more Jamaican than British. -Joel doeznot allow <skitzobiatch@hotmail.com> wrote:Born and raised in the UK but he's not british? I seeee... So he's lived for 30 years in the UK and none of that culture rubbed off on him and therefore his music is 100% jamaican. Eh ooook... Hmmm
quoted 5 lines From: EggyToast>From: EggyToast >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] british hip hop >Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:24:58 -0500 >
mr. manuva, although born and raised in south london, had very
quoted 16 lines jamaican parents, and his rapping style is very similar to other jamaican>jamaican parents, and his rapping style is very similar to other jamaican >artists. I'm talking about the slow, vowelly, typical "british" accented >type of rap. Sure, mr. Manuva certainly qualifies as "a british rapper," >but I wouldn't call him "british rap." > >derek >------- >eggytoast.com >------- >kills germs on contact > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2002-10-30 02:01cutupsNot to keep the thread going, but its still hiphop from the UK, any which way you look at
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Not to keep the thread going, but its still hiphop from the UK, any which way you look at it. He certainly comes off as a UK MC to me. Just like jungle MCs (who often are mimicing or came from jamaican soundsystem culture) do to. As to the overall arguement though, i could care less. - cutups ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Fever" <joel_fever@yahoo.com> To: "doeznot allow" <skitzobiatch@hotmail.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [idm] british hip hop
quoted 2 lines You can live in england all your life (in Jamaican sections) and pick up> > You can live in england all your life (in Jamaican sections) and pick up
more Jamaican than British.
quoted 2 lines -Joel> -Joel > doeznot allow <skitzobiatch@hotmail.com> wrote:Born and raised in the UK
but he's not british? I seeee...
quoted 2 lines So he's lived for 30 years in the UK and none of that culture rubbed off> > So he's lived for 30 years in the UK and none of that culture rubbed off
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quoted 55 lines him and therefore his music is 100% jamaican. Eh ooook...> him and therefore his music is 100% jamaican. Eh ooook... > > Hmmm > > > > > >From: EggyToast > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [idm] british hip hop > >Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:24:58 -0500 > > > mr. manuva, although born and raised in south london, had very > >jamaican parents, and his rapping style is very similar to other jamaican > >artists. I'm talking about the slow, vowelly, typical "british" accented > >type of rap. Sure, mr. Manuva certainly qualifies as "a british rapper," > >but I wouldn't call him "british rap." > > > >derek > >------- > >eggytoast.com > >------- > >kills germs on contact > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > DJ Joel Fever Dancehall Reggae/Hard Step Jungle > [3 Decker SoundSystem - MA,Satalite SoundSystem,Neverending Echo - MA] > 11.06.02 Dubmission Cambridge, MA > 11.12.02 All reggae set @ Vertigo (state st. boston) > 11.21.02 All reggae set @ Regis College 235 wellesley st. Weston ma (8-10) > 11.23.02- BADONKADONK special dancehall set and Hind Claw set (asylum) > MIXES FOUND @ http://www.neverending-echo.com/audio.htm > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now
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2002-10-30 03:48EggyToastAt 09:01 PM 10/29/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Not to keep the thread going, but its still hiph
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At 09:01 PM 10/29/2002 -0500, you wrote:
quoted 4 lines Not to keep the thread going, but its still hiphop from the UK,>Not to keep the thread going, but its still hiphop from the UK, >any which way you look at it. He certainly comes off as a UK >MC to me. Just like jungle MCs (who often are mimicing or came >from jamaican soundsystem culture) do to.
Well, like I said, he's certainly a british rapper, but he's not very representative of typical british rapping. What I mean when I say british rapping is rapping with the typical british accent (of various types, whether it be liverpuddian, cockney, scottish, etc.). I think mr. manuva does great stuff, but *sheesh* people. I was complaining about the likes of massive attack, not "people who are born and raised in the UK and rap about UK issues but don't sound british."
quoted 1 line As to the overall arguement though, i could care less.>As to the overall arguement though, i could care less.
*couldn't* care less :) derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- kills germs on contact --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org