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October 1, 2002 "YOU ARE EITHER WITH US, OR YOU ARE FIRED!" Dear Friends, This is Michael Moore, activist and filmaker, with an important message to all Americans who dont like being fooled and lied to by the assholes in power. I was going to write you a letter about what a pathetic liar George W, Bush is -- but then I figured, hey, why waste your time telling you something you already know! You already know that his planned invasion of Iraq is a ruse meant to distract the public from the real issues, those issues being the following: 1. The number of people unemployed since he "took" office has risen by 35%. 2. We had a federal SURPLUS of $281 billion when he was inaugurated; today we have a DEFICIT of $157 billion. 3. TWO MILLION jobs have been eliminated since Bush began his occupation of the Oval Office. 4. The stock market is down 34% since January of 2001. 5. Another 1.4 million people now have NO health insurance, making it a total of over 41 million Americans who can't afford to get sick. 6. Only 13 corporate crooks out of HUNDREDS have been indicted, and none of them have been the close personal friends of Mr. Bush. THOSE are the real issues facing us, not some phony excuse for a war. But, like I said, you already know that. You know that Bush is lying through his smirk when he says Iraq has "weapons of mass destruction." He has not offered one shred of evidence to prove this. Not one! You know he is lying when he says that there is a "connection" between Saddam and bin Laden. Even members of his own administration have admitted that is not true. It's just one lie after another, and I applaud those three congressmen who went to Iraq this week and told it like it is -- and demanded that the sanctions which have already killed a half-million Iraqi children be ended. Sen. Trent Lott said "they should come home and keep their mouths shut." I say, we need more damn Democrats with that kind of courage and with mouths like that! Which brings me to the real point of this letter. The Democrats. I have never seen a more lame bunch of cowards and appeasers in my life. They are ready to bow down before Bush and give him what he wants to wage war against Iraq. This pathetic excuse of a party is an embarrassment to us all. The fact that they let Robert Torricelli run for re-election in New Jersey, knowing how dirty he was, shows just how capable they are of handing the Senate over to Bush and the Republicans come November. They have blown it over and over again, and lots of good people I know who keep putting their faith in the Democrats are just giving up -- and that is the worst thing to happen in a free society. What are we going to do? Left to their own devices, the Democrats will not only hand both the House and the Senate to the Republicans in November, they will guarantee that Bush gets his second undeserved term in 2004. We must not let that happen. This year's election was theirs for the taking. Just look at the state of the union Bush gave us: Bush cronies caught stealing from the corporate till, Bush and Cheney caught breaking the law in the '90s, the economy in the toilet, and Bush failing to do the only real job he had to do since 9/11: Get bin Laden! What a disgrace! Yet the Democrats could not even find enough candidates to offer a REAL challenge to the Republicans in nearly 200 House districts for the November 5th elections. What an appalling excuse of a party. OK, I know, there is not much we can do about this now. But we all need to get busy and ensure that this whole rotten system is rocked by the disgruntled millions come election day 2004. Otherwise, we have no right to complain. In the meantime, we must stop the Bush attack on Iraq. We must find out now, as W says, "who is wid us and who is agin us." I am asking each of you to go to http://www.michaelmoore.com/petitions/peacepledge/index.php and sign the petition to the Democrats: "You're Either With Us Or You're Fired," informing the Democrats that whoever amongst them votes for this war, we pledge NEVER to vote for them again. I will personally see that your on-line signatures are delivered to every member of Congress. Then let's figure out together what we can do to turn things around by 2004. Thanks for taking the time to do this. We have no other choice. Yours, Michael Moore http://www.michaelmoore.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

dear friend you are an idiot. if you think anything more than the ascii text you are writing is as black and white as you make it out to be you are very very very well not bright at all. some things some facts you said were true but nothing more. You know that other countries are having trouble with their economy? even those that don't wage war ... are you gonna give their leaders counseling tips too? you act like me in 8th grade it is pretty funny. "them against us" hahahaha first of all you don't have access to intelligence information so bite your tongue. second what if we did destroy the nuclear weapons and other weapons in iraq and helped the people...AND kept the oil as a reward... would that help your economy? just a thought believe me bush wants to be reelected so don't be so quick to think he is anti american... besides clinton didn't have to deal with sept.11th get a grip -Joel concrete cookie wrote:October 1, 2002 "YOU ARE EITHER WITH US, OR YOU ARE FIRED!" Dear Friends, This is Michael Moore, activist and filmaker, with an important message to all Americans who dont like being fooled and lied to by the assholes in power. I was going to write you a letter about what a pathetic liar George W, Bush is -- but then I figured, hey, why waste your time telling you something you already know! You already know that his planned invasion of Iraq is a ruse meant to distract the public from the real issues, those issues being the following: 1. The number of people unemployed since he "took" office has risen by 35%. 2. We had a federal SURPLUS of $281 billion when he was inaugurated; today we have a DEFICIT of $157 billion. 3. TWO MILLION jobs have been eliminated since Bush began his occupation of the Oval Office. 4. The stock market is down 34% since January of 2001. 5. Another 1.4 million people now have NO health insurance, making it a total of over 41 million Americans who can't afford to get sick. 6. Only 13 corporate crooks out of HUNDREDS have been indicted, and none of them have been the close personal friends of Mr. Bush. THOSE are the real issues facing us, not some phony excuse for a war. But, like I said, you already know that. You know that Bush is lying through his smirk when he says Iraq has "weapons of mass destruction." He has not offered one shred of evidence to prove this. Not one! You know he is lying when he says that there is a "connection" between Saddam and bin Laden. Even members of his own administration have admitted that is not true. It's just one lie after another, and I applaud those three congressmen who went to Iraq this week and told it like it is -- and demanded that the sanctions which have already killed a half-million Iraqi children be ended. Sen. Trent Lott said "they should come home and keep their mouths shut." I say, we need more damn Democrats with that kind of courage and with mouths like that! Which brings me to the real point of this letter. The Democrats. I have never seen a more lame bunch of cowards and appeasers in my life. They are ready to bow down before Bush and give him what he wants to wage war against Iraq. This pathetic excuse of a party is an embarrassment to us all. The fact that they let Robert Torricelli run for re-election in New Jersey, knowing how dirty he was, shows just how capable they are of handing the Senate over to Bush and the Republicans come November. They have blown it over and over again, and lots of good people I know who keep putting their faith in the Democrats are just giving up -- and that is the worst thing to happen in a free society. What are we going to do? Left to their own devices, the Democrats will not only hand both the House and the Senate to the Republicans in November, they will guarantee that Bush gets his second undeserved term in 2004. We must not let that happen. This year's election was theirs for the taking. Just look at the state of the union Bush gave us: Bush cronies caught stealing from the corporate till, Bush and Cheney caught breaking the law in the '90s, the economy in the toilet, and Bush failing to do the only real job he had to do since 9/11: Get bin Laden! What a disgrace! Yet the Democrats could not even find enough candidates to offer a REAL challenge to the Republicans in nearly 200 House districts for the November 5th elections. What an appalling excuse of a party. OK, I know, there is not much we can do about this now. But we all need to get busy and ensure that this whole rotten system is rocked by the disgruntled millions come election day 2004. Otherwise, we have no right to complain. In the meantime, we must stop the Bush attack on Iraq. We must find out now, as W says, "who is wid us and who is agin us." I am asking each of you to go to http://www.michaelmoore.com/petitions/peacepledge/index.php and sign the petition to the Democrats: "You're Either With Us Or You're Fired," informing the Democrats that whoever amongst them votes for this war, we pledge NEVER to vote for them again. I will personally see that your on-line signatures are delivered to every member of Congress. Then let's figure out together what we can do to turn things around by 2004. Thanks for taking the time to do this. We have no other choice. Yours, Michael Moore http://www.michaelmoore.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org [3 Decker SoundSystem - MA,Satalite SoundSystem,Neverending Echo - MA] 10.09.02 Live & Direkt (Club Marque 366 main st. worcester) 11.?.02 All reggae set @ Regis College (All GIRL COLLEGE!) 11.08.02 Hot skin contest Club Marque w/ Optimus Prime 11.12.02 All reggae set @ Vertigo (state st. boston) MIXES FOUND @ http://www.neverending-echo.com/audio.htm http://americandnb.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com

one more thing.....give me proof that bin laden is still alive ... other than vague, generalized, video tapes that could be from 1 year ago. and even if we did bring in bin laden on a silver platter ...do you really honestly think this shit would be over? c'mon you are really stretching it now. -Joel Joel Fever wrote: dear friend you are an idiot. if you think anything more than the ascii text you are writing is as black and white as you make it out to be you are very very very well not bright at all. some things some facts you said were true but nothing more. You know that other countries are having trouble with their economy? even those that don't wage war ... are you gonna give their leaders counseling tips too? you act like me in 8th grade it is pretty funny. "them against us" hahahaha first of all you don't have access to intelligence information so bite your tongue. second what if we did destroy the nuclear weapons and other weapons in iraq and helped the people...AND kept the oil as a reward... would that help your economy? just a thought believe me bush wants to be reelected so don't be so quick to think he is anti american... besides clinton didn't have to deal with sept.11th get a grip -Joel concrete cookie wrote:October 1, 2002 "YOU ARE EITHER WITH US, OR YOU ARE FIRED!" Dear Friends, This is Michael Moore, activist and filmaker, with an important message to all Americans who dont like being fooled and lied to by the assholes in power. I was going to write you a letter about what a pathetic liar George W, Bush is -- but then I figured, hey, why waste your time telling you something you already know! You already know that his planned invasion of Iraq is a ruse meant to distract the public from the real issues, those issues being the following: 1. The number of people unemployed since he "took" office has risen by 35%. 2. We had a federal SURPLUS of $281 billion when he was inaugurated; today we have a DEFICIT of $157 billion. 3. TWO MILLION jobs have been eliminated since Bush began his occupation of the Oval Office. 4. The stock market is down 34% since January of 2001. 5. Another 1.4 million people now have NO health insurance, making it a total of over 41 million Americans who can't afford to get sick. 6. Only 13 corporate crooks out of HUNDREDS have been indicted, and none of them have been the close personal friends of Mr. Bush. THOSE are the real issues facing us, not some phony excuse for a war. But, like I said, you already know that. You know that Bush is lying through his smirk when he says Iraq has "weapons of mass destruction." He has not offered one shred of evidence to prove this. Not one! You know he is lying when he says that there is a "connection" between Saddam and bin Laden. Even members of his own administration have admitted that is not true. It's just one lie after another, and I applaud those three congressmen who went to Iraq this week and told it like it is -- and demanded that the sanctions which have already killed a half-million Iraqi children be ended. Sen. Trent Lott said "they should come home and keep their mouths shut." I say, we need more damn Democrats with that kind of courage and with mouths like that! Which brings me to the real point of this letter. The Democrats. I have never seen a more lame bunch of cowards and appeasers in my life. They are ready to bow down before Bush and give him what he wants to wage war against Iraq. This pathetic excuse of a party is an embarrassment to us all. The fact that they let Robert Torricelli run for re-election in New Jersey, knowing how dirty he was, shows just how capable they are of handing the Senate over to Bush and the Republicans come November. They have blown it over and over again, and lots of good people I know who keep putting their faith in the Democrats are just giving up -- and that is the worst thing to happen in a free society. What are we going to do? Left to their own devices, the Democrats will not only hand both the House and the Senate to the Republicans in November, they will guarantee that Bush gets his second undeserved term in 2004. We must not let that happen. This year's election was theirs for the taking. Just look at the state of the union Bush gave us: Bush cronies caught stealing from the corporate till, Bush and Cheney caught breaking the law in the '90s, the economy in the toilet, and Bush failing to do the only real job he had to do since 9/11: Get bin Laden! What a disgrace! Yet the Democrats could not even find enough candidates to offer a REAL challenge to the Republicans in nearly 200 House districts for the November 5th elections. What an appalling excuse of a party. OK, I know, there is not much we can do about this now. But we all need to get busy and ensure that this whole rotten system is rocked by the disgruntled millions come election day 2004. Otherwise, we have no right to complain. In the meantime, we must stop the Bush attack on Iraq. We must find out now, as W says, "who is wid us and who is agin us." I am asking each of you to go to http://www.michaelmoore.com/petitions/peacepledge/index.php and sign the petition to the Democrats: "You're Either With Us Or You're Fired," informing the Democrats that whoever amongst them votes for this war, we pledge NEVER to vote for them again. I will personally see that your on-line signatures are delivered to every member of Congress. Then let's figure out together what we can do to turn things around by 2004. Thanks for taking the time to do this. We have no other choice. Yours, Michael Moore http://www.michaelmoore.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org [3 Decker SoundSystem - MA,Satalite SoundSystem,Neverending Echo - MA] 10.09.02 Live & Direkt (Club Marque 366 main st. worcester) 11.?.02 All reggae set @ Regis College (All GIRL COLLEGE!) 11.08.02 Hot skin contest Club Marque w/ Optimus Prime 11.12.02 All reggae set @ Vertigo (state st. boston) MIXES FOUND @ http://www.neverending-echo.com/audio.htm http://americandnb.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com [3 Decker SoundSystem - MA,Satalite SoundSystem,Neverending Echo - MA] 10.09.02 Live & Direkt (Club Marque 366 main st. worcester) 11.?.02 All reggae set @ Regis College (All GIRL COLLEGE!) 11.08.02 Hot skin contest Club Marque w/ Optimus Prime 11.12.02 All reggae set @ Vertigo (state st. boston) MIXES FOUND @ http://www.neverending-echo.com/audio.htm http://americandnb.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com

Ha ha ha let's embarass the fuck out of ourselves!! Ok I'll go next: I think Reagan was an -awesome- President (ignoring AIDS for years was the right thing to do, and oh forget about Iran-Contra or Nicaragua, didn't matter anyway) and George Bush Sr. was a -really- trustworthy guy even though he was Director of the CIA. So get a grip you hippies and let's get us some OIL!! YEEE HAWW!!! -----Original Message----- From: Joel Fever [mailto:joel_fever@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:02 PM To: Joel Fever; concrete cookie; idm@hyperreal.org Cc: riot-soundz@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [idm] OT: Michael Moore letter one more thing.....give me proof that bin laden is still alive ... other than vague, generalized, video tapes that could be from 1 year ago. and even if we did bring in bin laden on a silver platter ...do you really honestly think this shit would be over? c'mon you are really stretching it now. -Joel Joel Fever wrote: dear friend you are an idiot. if you think anything more than the ascii text you are writing is as black and white as you make it out to be you are very very very well not bright at all. some things some facts you said were true but nothing more. You know that other countries are having trouble with their economy? even those that don't wage war ... are you gonna give their leaders counseling tips too? you act like me in 8th grade it is pretty funny. "them against us" hahahaha first of all you don't have access to intelligence information so bite your tongue. second what if we did destroy the nuclear weapons and other weapons in iraq and helped the people...AND kept the oil as a reward... would that help your economy? just a thought believe me bush wants to be reelected so don't be so quick to think he is anti american... besides clinton didn't have to deal with sept.11th get a grip -Joel concrete cookie wrote:October 1, 2002 "YOU ARE EITHER WITH US, OR YOU ARE FIRED!" Dear Friends, This is Michael Moore, activist and filmaker, with an important message to all Americans who dont like being fooled and lied to by the assholes in power. I was going to write you a letter about what a pathetic liar George W, Bush is -- but then I figured, hey, why waste your time telling you something you already know! You already know that his planned invasion of Iraq is a ruse meant to distract the public from the real issues, those issues being the following: 1. The number of people unemployed since he "took" office has risen by 35%. 2. We had a federal SURPLUS of $281 billion when he was inaugurated; today we have a DEFICIT of $157 billion. 3. TWO MILLION jobs have been eliminated since Bush began his occupation of the Oval Office. 4. The stock market is down 34% since January of 2001. 5. Another 1.4 million people now have NO health insurance, making it a total of over 41 million Americans who can't afford to get sick. 6. Only 13 corporate crooks out of HUNDREDS have been indicted, and none of them have been the close personal friends of Mr. Bush. THOSE are the real issues facing us, not some phony excuse for a war. But, like I said, you already know that. You know that Bush is lying through his smirk when he says Iraq has "weapons of mass destruction." He has not offered one shred of evidence to prove this. Not one! You know he is lying when he says that there is a "connection" between Saddam and bin Laden. Even members of his own administration have admitted that is not true. It's just one lie after another, and I applaud those three congressmen who went to Iraq this week and told it like it is -- and demanded that the sanctions which have already killed a half-million Iraqi children be ended. Sen. Trent Lott said "they should come home and keep their mouths shut." I say, we need more damn Democrats with that kind of courage and with mouths like that! Which brings me to the real point of this letter. The Democrats. I have never seen a more lame bunch of cowards and appeasers in my life. They are ready to bow down before Bush and give him what he wants to wage war against Iraq. This pathetic excuse of a party is an embarrassment to us all. The fact that they let Robert Torricelli run for re-election in New Jersey, knowing how dirty he was, shows just how capable they are of handing the Senate over to Bush and the Republicans come November. They have blown it over and over again, and lots of good people I know who keep putting their faith in the Democrats are just giving up -- and that is the worst thing to happen in a free society. What are we going to do? Left to their own devices, the Democrats will not only hand both the House and the Senate to the Republicans in November, they will guarantee that Bush gets his second undeserved term in 2004. We must not let that happen. This year's election was theirs for the taking. Just look at the state of the union Bush gave us: Bush cronies caught stealing from the corporate till, Bush and Cheney caught breaking the law in the '90s, the economy in the toilet, and Bush failing to do the only real job he had to do since 9/11: Get bin Laden! What a disgrace! Yet the Democrats could not even find enough candidates to offer a REAL challenge to the Republicans in nearly 200 House districts for the November 5th elections. What an appalling excuse of a party. OK, I know, there is not much we can do about this now. But we all need to get busy and ensure that this whole rotten system is rocked by the disgruntled millions come election day 2004. Otherwise, we have no right to complain. In the meantime, we must stop the Bush attack on Iraq. We must find out now, as W says, "who is wid us and who is agin us." I am asking each of you to go to http://www.michaelmoore.com/petitions/peacepledge/index.php and sign the petition to the Democrats: "You're Either With Us Or You're Fired," informing the Democrats that whoever amongst them votes for this war, we pledge NEVER to vote for them again. I will personally see that your on-line signatures are delivered to every member of Congress. Then let's figure out together what we can do to turn things around by 2004. Thanks for taking the time to do this. We have no other choice. Yours, Michael Moore http://www.michaelmoore.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org [3 Decker SoundSystem - MA,Satalite SoundSystem,Neverending Echo - MA] 10.09.02 Live & Direkt (Club Marque 366 main st. worcester) 11.?.02 All reggae set @ Regis College (All GIRL COLLEGE!) 11.08.02 Hot skin contest Club Marque w/ Optimus Prime 11.12.02 All reggae set @ Vertigo (state st. boston) MIXES FOUND @ http://www.neverending-echo.com/audio.htm http://americandnb.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com [3 Decker SoundSystem - MA,Satalite SoundSystem,Neverending Echo - MA] 10.09.02 Live & Direkt (Club Marque 366 main st. worcester) 11.?.02 All reggae set @ Regis College (All GIRL COLLEGE!) 11.08.02 Hot skin contest Club Marque w/ Optimus Prime 11.12.02 All reggae set @ Vertigo (state st. boston) MIXES FOUND @ http://www.neverending-echo.com/audio.htm http://americandnb.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Did someone not realize that Bush does not need to care about 2004 elections? Presidents can only elected twice :p. -----Original Message----- From: concrete cookie [mailto:cookie@mashup.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:18 AM To: idm@hyperreal.org Cc: riot-soundz@yahoogroups.com Subject: [idm] OT: Michael Moore letter October 1, 2002 "YOU ARE EITHER WITH US, OR YOU ARE FIRED!" Dear Friends, This is Michael Moore, activist and filmaker, with an important message to all Americans who dont like being fooled and lied to by the assholes in power. I was going to write you a letter about what a pathetic liar George W, Bush is -- but then I figured, hey, why waste your time telling you something you already know! You already know that his planned invasion of Iraq is a ruse meant to distract the public from the real issues, those issues being the following: 1. The number of people unemployed since he "took" office has risen by 35%. 2. We had a federal SURPLUS of $281 billion when he was inaugurated; today we have a DEFICIT of $157 billion. 3. TWO MILLION jobs have been eliminated since Bush began his occupation of the Oval Office. 4. The stock market is down 34% since January of 2001. 5. Another 1.4 million people now have NO health insurance, making it a total of over 41 million Americans who can't afford to get sick. 6. Only 13 corporate crooks out of HUNDREDS have been indicted, and none of them have been the close personal friends of Mr. Bush. THOSE are the real issues facing us, not some phony excuse for a war. But, like I said, you already know that. You know that Bush is lying through his smirk when he says Iraq has "weapons of mass destruction." He has not offered one shred of evidence to prove this. Not one! You know he is lying when he says that there is a "connection" between Saddam and bin Laden. Even members of his own administration have admitted that is not true. It's just one lie after another, and I applaud those three congressmen who went to Iraq this week and told it like it is -- and demanded that the sanctions which have already killed a half-million Iraqi children be ended. Sen. Trent Lott said "they should come home and keep their mouths shut." I say, we need more damn Democrats with that kind of courage and with mouths like that! Which brings me to the real point of this letter. The Democrats. I have never seen a more lame bunch of cowards and appeasers in my life. They are ready to bow down before Bush and give him what he wants to wage war against Iraq. This pathetic excuse of a party is an embarrassment to us all. The fact that they let Robert Torricelli run for re-election in New Jersey, knowing how dirty he was, shows just how capable they are of handing the Senate over to Bush and the Republicans come November. They have blown it over and over again, and lots of good people I know who keep putting their faith in the Democrats are just giving up -- and that is the worst thing to happen in a free society. What are we going to do? Left to their own devices, the Democrats will not only hand both the House and the Senate to the Republicans in November, they will guarantee that Bush gets his second undeserved term in 2004. We must not let that happen. This year's election was theirs for the taking. Just look at the state of the union Bush gave us: Bush cronies caught stealing from the corporate till, Bush and Cheney caught breaking the law in the '90s, the economy in the toilet, and Bush failing to do the only real job he had to do since 9/11: Get bin Laden! What a disgrace! Yet the Democrats could not even find enough candidates to offer a REAL challenge to the Republicans in nearly 200 House districts for the November 5th elections. What an appalling excuse of a party. OK, I know, there is not much we can do about this now. But we all need to get busy and ensure that this whole rotten system is rocked by the disgruntled millions come election day 2004. Otherwise, we have no right to complain. In the meantime, we must stop the Bush attack on Iraq. We must find out now, as W says, "who is wid us and who is agin us." I am asking each of you to go to http://www.michaelmoore.com/petitions/peacepledge/index.php and sign the petition to the Democrats: "You're Either With Us Or You're Fired," informing the Democrats that whoever amongst them votes for this war, we pledge NEVER to vote for them again. I will personally see that your on-line signatures are delivered to every member of Congress. Then let's figure out together what we can do to turn things around by 2004. Thanks for taking the time to do this. We have no other choice. Yours, Michael Moore http://www.michaelmoore.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

If he can fix one election I'm sure he's gonna have an even easier time as an incumbent. -----Original Message----- From: kingfool [mailto:kingfool@optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 6:12 AM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [idm] OT: Michael Moore letter Did someone not realize that Bush does not need to care about 2004 elections? Presidents can only elected twice :p. -----Original Message----- From: concrete cookie [mailto:cookie@mashup.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:18 AM To: idm@hyperreal.org Cc: riot-soundz@yahoogroups.com Subject: [idm] OT: Michael Moore letter October 1, 2002 "YOU ARE EITHER WITH US, OR YOU ARE FIRED!" Dear Friends, This is Michael Moore, activist and filmaker, with an important message to all Americans who dont like being fooled and lied to by the assholes in power. I was going to write you a letter about what a pathetic liar George W, Bush is -- but then I figured, hey, why waste your time telling you something you already know! You already know that his planned invasion of Iraq is a ruse meant to distract the public from the real issues, those issues being the following: 1. The number of people unemployed since he "took" office has risen by 35%. 2. We had a federal SURPLUS of $281 billion when he was inaugurated; today we have a DEFICIT of $157 billion. 3. TWO MILLION jobs have been eliminated since Bush began his occupation of the Oval Office. 4. The stock market is down 34% since January of 2001. 5. Another 1.4 million people now have NO health insurance, making it a total of over 41 million Americans who can't afford to get sick. 6. Only 13 corporate crooks out of HUNDREDS have been indicted, and none of them have been the close personal friends of Mr. Bush. THOSE are the real issues facing us, not some phony excuse for a war. But, like I said, you already know that. You know that Bush is lying through his smirk when he says Iraq has "weapons of mass destruction." He has not offered one shred of evidence to prove this. Not one! You know he is lying when he says that there is a "connection" between Saddam and bin Laden. Even members of his own administration have admitted that is not true. It's just one lie after another, and I applaud those three congressmen who went to Iraq this week and told it like it is -- and demanded that the sanctions which have already killed a half-million Iraqi children be ended. Sen. Trent Lott said "they should come home and keep their mouths shut." I say, we need more damn Democrats with that kind of courage and with mouths like that! Which brings me to the real point of this letter. The Democrats. I have never seen a more lame bunch of cowards and appeasers in my life. They are ready to bow down before Bush and give him what he wants to wage war against Iraq. This pathetic excuse of a party is an embarrassment to us all. The fact that they let Robert Torricelli run for re-election in New Jersey, knowing how dirty he was, shows just how capable they are of handing the Senate over to Bush and the Republicans come November. They have blown it over and over again, and lots of good people I know who keep putting their faith in the Democrats are just giving up -- and that is the worst thing to happen in a free society. What are we going to do? Left to their own devices, the Democrats will not only hand both the House and the Senate to the Republicans in November, they will guarantee that Bush gets his second undeserved term in 2004. We must not let that happen. This year's election was theirs for the taking. Just look at the state of the union Bush gave us: Bush cronies caught stealing from the corporate till, Bush and Cheney caught breaking the law in the '90s, the economy in the toilet, and Bush failing to do the only real job he had to do since 9/11: Get bin Laden! What a disgrace! Yet the Democrats could not even find enough candidates to offer a REAL challenge to the Republicans in nearly 200 House districts for the November 5th elections. What an appalling excuse of a party. OK, I know, there is not much we can do about this now. But we all need to get busy and ensure that this whole rotten system is rocked by the disgruntled millions come election day 2004. Otherwise, we have no right to complain. In the meantime, we must stop the Bush attack on Iraq. We must find out now, as W says, "who is wid us and who is agin us." I am asking each of you to go to http://www.michaelmoore.com/petitions/peacepledge/index.php and sign the petition to the Democrats: "You're Either With Us Or You're Fired," informing the Democrats that whoever amongst them votes for this war, we pledge NEVER to vote for them again. I will personally see that your on-line signatures are delivered to every member of Congress. 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First off, to kingfool, are you not aware that Bush was so far only elected once? 2004 is definitely of concern to him. As for Bush's current strategy, I think it's quite nicely explained in this article: Game Theory and The Political Centipede (Or, Why the Republicans Will Steal Everything That Isn't Nailed Down In The Next Two Years) http://william-king.www.drexel.edu/top/pol/centi/polcen.html ---Adam Quoting dave_dunstan <dave@underpop.org>:

quoted 13 lines If he can fix one election I'm sure he's gonna have an even easier time

> If he can fix one election I'm sure he's gonna have an even easier time > as > an incumbent. > > -----Original Message----- > From: kingfool [mailto:kingfool@optonline.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 6:12 AM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [idm] OT: Michael Moore letter > > > Did someone not realize that Bush does not need to care about 2004 > elections? Presidents can only elected twice :p.

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please tell me you live in a remote part of the world, or preferably, not on this planet, and that is why you would make such a bizarre statement. --- kingfool <kingfool@optonline.net> wrote:

quoted 3 lines Did someone not realize that Bush does not need to

> Did someone not realize that Bush does not need to > care about 2004 > elections? Presidents can only elected twice :p.

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bush needs to care about the 2004 elections because he wants a republican congress so that they can approve his plans to bomb anyone with dusky skin. --- "J.P.L'asthme Fawn" <ignorantdancemusic@yahoo.com> wrote:

quoted 26 lines please tell me you live in a remote part of the

> please tell me you live in a remote part of the > world, or preferably, not on this planet, and that > is why you would make such a bizarre statement. > > > > --- kingfool <kingfool@optonline.net> wrote: > > Did someone not realize that Bush does not need to > > care about 2004 > > elections? Presidents can only elected twice :p. > > > ===== > )the fawn > )"i thought when i started playing > )shows i'd meet a lot of really cool > )people, but most of the people i've > )met just want me to copy software > )for them" > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com > >

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on 10/8/02 5:39 PM, J.P.L'asthme Fawn at ignorantdancemusic@yahoo.com wrote:

quoted 3 lines please tell me you live in a remote part of the

> please tell me you live in a remote part of the > world, or preferably, not on this planet, and that > is why you would make such a bizarre statement.

quoted 4 lines --- kingfool <kingfool@optonline.net> wrote:

> --- kingfool <kingfool@optonline.net> wrote: >> Did someone not realize that Bush does not need to >> care about 2004 >> elections? Presidents can only elected twice :p.

LET ME EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU. GEORGE W. BUSH'S DAD WAS PRESIDENT BEFORE CLINTON. GEORGE W. BUSH'S DAD WAS ALSO GEORGE BUSH. IT IS A JOKE AS INDICATED BY THE :p. THANK YOU, PASS THE BONG Tom --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

... ... hmm. thas pretty funny. thanx fer taking the time to explain the subtleties of yer joke. next time you write something insane ,we will simply assume it is a veeerrry clever jape. d: --- Thomas Millar <tmillar@comcast.net> wrote:

quoted 25 lines on 10/8/02 5:39 PM, J.P.L'asthme Fawn at

> on 10/8/02 5:39 PM, J.P.L'asthme Fawn at > ignorantdancemusic@yahoo.com wrote: > > > please tell me you live in a remote part of the > > world, or preferably, not on this planet, and that > > is why you would make such a bizarre statement. > > > --- kingfool <kingfool@optonline.net> wrote: > >> Did someone not realize that Bush does not need > to > >> care about 2004 > >> elections? Presidents can only elected twice :p. > > LET ME EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU. > GEORGE W. BUSH'S DAD WAS PRESIDENT BEFORE CLINTON. > GEORGE W. BUSH'S DAD WAS ALSO GEORGE BUSH. > > IT IS A JOKE AS INDICATED BY THE :p. > > THANK YOU, PASS THE BONG > > Tom > > >

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