From: killog123@juno.com
To: headphonescience@hotmail.com
please note: as with the first response i gave you,
this email is addressed simply to YOU, not the
whole of the idm list. for whatever reason, you
replied to 'me' and sent it to the idm list as well.
something you must have felt the need to do for
whatever reason. you also sent the single email
4 times to the list. i guess emails are new to you.
the project blowed/freestyle fellowship camp hasn't
impressed me either in a long time, so i can agree with
you on that. 'first comes last' is an awesome track by
busdriver (don't think it's on his new full length though)
quoted 3 lines there's way too much time spent on
>there's way too much time spent on
> chopping up
> the radio spots & interviews.
if you think a total of less than 2 minutes of chopped
up radio spiel on a 70+ min comp is too much than
i'm not really sure what to say about that...
(prefuse73 radio attack -45secs in the beginning, 15secs
at the end, a 30sec chop by caural, 10secs or so at
the beginning of el-p's track)
i'm thinking 'Urban Renewal Program' is the name of
a radio show and that's where they got the bytes..
quoted 3 lines prefuse is just rehashing old material
>prefuse is just rehashing old material
> with
> his 'radio part 2 track'.
that's obvious, that's why it's called (part) 2.
quoted 3 lines prefuse
>prefuse
> needs to make inventive beats...not just try to make a stereotypical
> rap beat
i for one, think he does. however, i'm a bigger fan of his non-mc
production myself. i love it when he chops an mc's voice too.
quoted 3 lines el-p
>el-p
> shouldn't of used a pitch-shifter on his voice. and i could go
> on...
jesus christ that's petty. i'd love for you to tell el-p face to face
what he should do and should not do=)
the cat was ill from day 1.
quoted 2 lines cuz for one, i
>cuz for one, i
> don't listen to hip hop.
oh, word. now i understand..
quoted 3 lines hip hop isn't a genre of music....so that
>hip hop isn't a genre of music....so that
> shows me
> where your mind is at.
wow. enlighten' me/us...
quoted 1 line everyone else...sorry to waste your time with this.
>everyone else...sorry to waste your time with this.
you wouldn't have had to apologize if you would
have just hit reply to my private email to you in
the first place and not have gone through the
trouble of Cc'in it to the whole of the list.
so, that's all on you buddy...
take care.
(=)
ps- Ooops, did i send this to the whole list?
On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 14:57:15 -0700 "headphone science"
<headphonescience@hotmail.com> writes:
quoted 277 lines it's not like that at all....the reason i think the busdriver is so
> it's not like that at all....the reason i think the busdriver is so
> good is
> because it's inventive and it brought back my faith in the whole
> project
> blowed/freestyle fellowship camp. for a while there, i had the
> feeling that
> they were falling off...but this release brings back a little hope
> that
> maybe they still have it.
>
> and if you think it's because busdriver raps fast...you couldn't be
> more
> wrong. it's not the speed of his flow...it's what he's saying and
> how his
> flow rides atop the beats. no other mc does it like this....that
> i've heard
> so far.
>
> and i still feel the urban renewal comp is boring. if you need
> specifics,
> here's a couple of examples. there's way too much time spent on
> chopping up
> the radio spots & interviews. prefuse is just rehashing old material
> with
> his 'radio part 2 track'. aesop rock track is just weak compared to
> his
> previous work...plus who wants to hear him talk about how horny he
> is for so
> long at the end of the track. mos def, diverse & prefuse track;
> prefuse
> needs to make inventive beats...not just try to make a stereotypical
> rap
> beat...and you can hear that mos def didn't put his all into the
> song.
> sounds like he just ran into the studio, spit his verse, & left.
> diverse, to
> me, sounds like he wants to be talib kweli. so that bothered me. mr.
> lif &
> souls of mischeif tracks are just average, but once again...not up
> to par
> compared to previous work. rjd2....average also. the while track is
> ok. el-p
> shouldn't of used a pitch-shifter on his voice. and i could go
> on...but i'll
> stop there. hopefully, now you'll be able to see where i'm coming
> from.
>
> and if you still think it 'sounds like you don't listen to much hip
> hop
> outside of a certain circle or something.' you're so wrong..cuz for
> one, i
> don't listen to hip hop. hip hop isn't a genre of music....so that
> shows me
> where your mind is at.
>
> and i wasn't looking for an 'idm' release with this comp...just
> something
> good that i would want to listen to over and over and over. not
> something
> that feels like it's going through the motions and sounds like it
> could of
> been released on rawkus or something.
>
> well..hope that clears things up for you and you shouldn't make so
> many
> assumptions in the future.
>
> everyone else...sorry to waste your time with this.
>
> :dustin
>
>
>
> >From: killog123@juno.com
> >To: headphonescience@hotmail.com
> >Subject: Re: [idm] urban renewal program
> >Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:36:51 -0400
> >
> >busdriver is a one trick pony..
> >
> >if you like your mc to rap really fast
> >all the time, great. but i prefer variation.
> >
> >urban renewal program is a good comp all around
> >
> >sounds like you don't listen to much hip hop outside
> >of a certain circle or something.
> >or
> >you were looking for more of a "idm" release because
> >of the lable's history..
> >
> >-====-
> >
> >On Sat, 31 Aug 2002 15:09:22 -0700 "headphone science"
> ><headphonescience@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > i have to agree with robert here. this comp is boring. it's
> like
> > > everyone's
> > > just giving a half-ass effort or they gave a song they made a
> while
> > > ago.
> > > either way, i'm not feeling it. i know these artists can do so
> much
> > >
> > > better....i've heard it before...and that's one of the reasons
> why i
> > > don't
> > > understand why people are loving this shit so much. i think,
> maybe,
> > > it's
> > > because people don't know their rap and this sound is somewhat
> new
> > > to them
> > > or people just want to jock this because of the name's involved
> and
> > > it's
> > > 'cool' to like this...i don't know. i do know that this is one
> of
> > > the
> > > biggest disappointments. the best thing about it is the art &
> > > packaging....but that can only go so far...you know.
> > >
> > > i do have a recommendation for some good rap music though. maybe
> the
> > > best
> > > rap album this year: BUSDRIVER -temporary forever. this is a
> must
> > > have.
> > > blows all that other shit out of the water. you can also get any
> of
> > > the
> > > artists on that comp's solo shit...but that comp sucks...you'd
> be
> > > wasting
> > > your money & time.
> > >
> > > k, enough of my negativity. i never really say anything...cause
> who
> > > am i to
> > > talk shit....but i figured i had something to say with this
> one.
> > >
> > > peace
> > > :dustin
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "robert sinewave" <robertsinewave@hotmail.com>
> > > >To: idm@hyperreal.org
> > > >Subject: Re: [idm] urban renewal program
> > > >Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 12:07:27 -0500
> > > >
> > > >i don't like it. i think most of the hip-hop tracks are dope
> for
> > > the
> > > >exception of the souls of mischief, rjd2, and dj food. the
> prefuse
> > > 73
> > > >track is a bit different but now it has people big upping
> > > chocolate? how
> > > >fucking cheesey is that?
> > > >
> > > >the tortoise and miho tracks are boring as hell, and although
> i'm a
> > > fan of
> > > >themselves, the track was too damn long ( has anyone noticed
> the
> > > durutti
> > > >column sample in that song?).
> > > >
> > > >i think the idea of the urban renewal is great, and there will
> be
> > > more
> > > >comps coming from chocolate, but this one puts me to sleep.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>From: "Chris Bellevie" <chris@gothitica.com>
> > > >>To: "'I D M'" <idm@hyperreal.org>
> > > >>Subject: [idm] urban renewal program
> > > >>Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 08:53:28 -0700
> > > >>
> > > >>'the urban renewal program is the past, present and future of
> > > >>urban art, music and expression.'
> > > >>
> > > >>excellent compilation out from chocolate industries featuring
> > > >>idm tainted hip hop (or vice verse?) putting the likes of
> el-p,
> > > >>aesop rock, mr lif and rjd2 side by side with prefuse 73,
> caural
> > > >>and dj food. plays like a mixed tape, perfect for riding the
> bus
> > > >>downtown.
> > > >>
> > > >>after 'previewing' this one for awhile, was more than happy
> when I
> > > got
> > > >>the real deal with artwork, which really completes this. the
> > > music
> > > >>represents some of the best in urban/hip hop sounds and the
> > > packaging
> > > >>is an excellent extension of the music, expressing urban
> living
> > > through
> > > >>a series of art pieces featured in the notes.
> > > >>
> > > >>musicians include : prefuse 73, aesop rock, mosdef & diverse,
> > > diverse,
> > > >>mr lif,
> > > >>souls of mischief, rjd2, while, el-p, dj food, miho hatori,
> > > tortoise,
> > > >>caural and themselves.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>
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> > > >>Drop Bush, Not Bombs
> > > >>
> > > >>
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