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I agree with Aphex and Autechre. Once again I think Bjork has had a much stronger "mainstream" influence on experimental electronic music than she is credited with. You can argue that she is just selecting producers that have been musically innovative (Mark Bell, Matmos, Thomas Knak, Plaid, Herbert) but I have to say that the music that was created out of these collaborations sounds nothing like the music the artists/producers have created on their own. Mark Bell's stellar work on "Homogenic" sounds nothing like his LFO solo work. Same with Matmos and Thomas Knak's (Opiate) work on "Vespertine". This tells me that she is a much greater influence in the studio than people think. I would place her above NIN for that reason.

quoted 37 lines From: "alan flood" <guile133@hotmail.com>

>From: "alan flood" <guile133@hotmail.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: [idm] 5 most important electronic artists of the 90's >Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:03:49 -0400 > > >So who would you guys say? > >here's mine in no particual order: > >lfo - influenced everyone........ first a.i. style techno? > >oval- for the introduction of the error or glitch > >aphex twin- for obvious reasons > >autechre- also for ovious reasons > >nine inch nails- for the texture, production, and bringing expermental >electronic music to a mass audience through pop song structures, and most >importantly to piss off every indie elitest fuck-head on the list (get it >right ......majority of the synth patches were a prophet VS) > >thoughts? i can't sleep.... > > >alan flood > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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Brian Eno has to be the hands-down most important electronic artist of the 90's, 80's etc... Just my two cents. I think we all owe it to him and many other unnamed artists who formulated the ideam and theory of what would become 'IDM'. -daniel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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quoted 7 lines Brian Eno has to be the hands-down most important

> Brian Eno has to be the hands-down most important > electronic artist of > the 90's, 80's etc... Just my two cents. I think we > all owe it to him > and many other unnamed artists who formulated the > ideam and theory of > what would become 'IDM'.

ok... see, here's the thing. he didn't make anything worthwhile after the 70's... except to maybe produce a few things that were good, and yes the extent to which he involves himself in production DOES qualify him as a performer, the only thing that could have probably even vaguely impacted any sort of idm sphere would have been Passengers and the likelihood is about nil. sure, give the man his due for his innovations in his day, but he was already irrelevant by 1990. gregory np- brian eno- an ascenscion __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 5 lines ...You can argue that she is just selecting producers that have

> ...You can argue that she is just selecting producers that have > been musically innovative (Mark Bell, Matmos, Thomas Knak, Plaid, Herbert) > but I have to say that the music that was created out of these > collaborations sounds nothing like the music the artists/producers have > created on their own.

i'll argue that she's just selecting producers...i was pretty disappointed when i heard 'heirloom' off of bjork's 'vespertine'. it's a beautiful song, but it's just console's 'crabcraft' from 'rocket in the pocket' with her singing over it. and i thought plaid left their mark all over 'post', and the tracks matt herbert worked on on 'vespertine' have a definite herbert-y sound to them, at least to these ears.

quoted 1 line I would place her above NIN for that reason.

> I would place her above NIN for that reason.

I would place NIN above her for the reason that in countless conversations i've had, or interveiws read, with djs or producers, NIN, skinny puppy, other industrial acts are cited as influences much more often. also because of 'fixed' and 'broken'. the things he did on those records may have been pioneered by other folks, but he was one of the people that got those production sounds and ideas out to the masses, including me out in farmland, wisconsin, yeehaw. track 1 on 'fixed', 'gave up', with those cut up vocals, damn. still, i wouldn't put either in my top 5. top 5 artists for the 90s for me, in no particular order: Aphex Twin: Constantly and tirelessly experimented and fooled around with everything from production techniques and sounds in his music, to music video and live performance, as well as public persona. (remember, drukqs came out in the 00s. heh.) Autechre: Similar to Aphex, always pushing the envelope, tho sticking more with music, not so much videos or performance, etc. Where they're trying to push that envelope i'm sometimes not so sure, but A for effort anyways. Squarepusher: This guy has a sense of humor. Or you could pretend that he's really angry all the time if you want. i consider him responsible for bringing 'drill'n'bass' to the masses (along with a few other usual suspects, of course) and his experimentation with/satire of certain electronic subgenres is top-notch (ie speed garage on a lot of the tracks on 'go plastic'). Boards of Canada: Sure they had somewhat limited output compared to other artists on this list, but 'music has the right to children' was the first all-electronic album to make the music feel consistently warm. They managed to use their music to take you 'elsewhere', without really telling you where that was, exactly. it's really a shame they like to touch little children tho. FSOL / The Orb / Orbital / KLF (4way tie): All 4 of these groups are trailblazers in some respect, and have influenced countless others in electronic music. FSOL's 'papua new guinea', the orb's 'little fluffy clouds' (also some of their many remixes), orbital's 'chime', klf's '3am eternal' (most of 'the white room', all of 'chill out')...though some of these sound dated today, all are still considered classic, classic tracks. ok. -z

quoted 27 lines From: "alan flood" <guile133@hotmail.com>

> >From: "alan flood" <guile133@hotmail.com> > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: [idm] 5 most important electronic artists of the 90's > >Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:03:49 -0400 > > > > > >So who would you guys say? > > > >here's mine in no particual order: > > > >lfo - influenced everyone........ first a.i. style techno? > > > >oval- for the introduction of the error or glitch > > > >aphex twin- for obvious reasons > > > >autechre- also for ovious reasons > > > >nine inch nails- for the texture, production, and bringing expermental > >electronic music to a mass audience through pop song structures, and most > >importantly to piss off every indie elitest fuck-head on the list (get it > >right ......majority of the synth patches were a prophet VS) > > > >thoughts? i can't sleep.... > > > > > >alan flood

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