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2002-07-23 23:42Sean Horton RE: [idm] Ae's progression (Amber vs. Confield)
└─ 2002-07-23 23:47ugly and mean RE: [idm] Ae's progression (Amber vs. Confield)
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└─ 2002-07-24 05:58teardropb [idm] ,` richard devine computer code `
2002-07-24 19:01david turgeon Re: [idm] Ae's progression (Amber vs. Confield)
2002-07-24 19:09david turgeon Re: [idm] Ae's progression (Amber vs. Confield)
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2002-07-23 23:42Sean HortonIf Autechre continued creating music like they were in the early to mid 90's (Incunabula,
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If Autechre continued creating music like they were in the early to mid 90's (Incunabula, Amber, Tri Repetea) they would sound like so many others in the IDM world today. They are innovaters and you have to appreciate that, even if you can't grasp the music yet. How can you deny Chiastic Slide or LP 5? Those albums were ground breaking! Even if they aren't as melodic and textural, the rhythm programming contained on those two albums set they standard for experiment laptop based electronic music. I see EP 7 and Confield as a progression from their post Tri Repetea work, and a strong one at that. The problem that most Autechre fans have, I my humble oppinion, is that they are abandoning a familar structure (tempos shift, dissonent harmonies collide, there's no particular climax or build, etc.) Regardless if you agree with the progression or not, you have to admit that Autechre's music still remains completely unique and beautifully visual. I have been a fan from day one a I applaud them in every. They're making music for themselves and ignoring the critiques like all prolific visionaries need to do progress. Keep it up!!
quoted 111 lines From: "Oscar Saenz" <saenz320@hotmail.com>>From: "Oscar Saenz" <saenz320@hotmail.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: [idm] new autechre - amberlovers don't actually like the real >ae it seems >Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:05:34 -0700 > >Oh shit.....is IDM becoming the goth scene of the new century...I hope not. > All we need is 100 Plaid followers freaking out about how cool they are >because they are on the Nothing label. "do you think they know Trent?..." > > >>From: Bryan Finoki <finoki@lucasarts.com> >>To: "'kingmob@nmt.edu'" <kingmob@nmt.edu> >>CC: idm@hyperreal.org >>Subject: RE: [idm] new autechre - amberlovers don't actually like the real >>ae it seems >>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:50:31 -0700 >> >>yeah. >> >>I think anyone that says, autechre must be cheap snobby and lazy for not >>having gimmicky life-preserver visuals at their show, never had a clue >>about >>their music to begin with at all. Anyone that thinks Amber is their best >>album, and shrugs off the evolution of Confield, doesnt have a clue >>anymore, >>anyone that would get the dvd and just skip to the videos with minimal >>interest in the tracks themselves, probably will never get a clue. On one >>hand, I am kind of suprised, but on another, I am not suprised by these >>benignmizings at all. >> >>"Hey people, lets go to that autechre concert for a real nice night out on >>the town where we can be social and see cool light shows and artsy >>abstract >>visuals and where I can wear my cool IDM fashion gear..." >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: kingmob@nmt.edu [mailto:kingmob@nmt.edu] >>Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 11:18 AM >>Cc: idm@hyperreal.org >>Subject: re: [idm] new autechre - amberlovers don't actually like the >>real ae it seems >> >> >>Has anyone else picked up on how people how say Amber is their best >>usually fail to appreciate ae? I think these people are rather stubborn >>or uncurious or lacking in patience to listen to the later ae, which imo >>are always evolutions, and offer many more interesting things than in >>Amber. basically I think amber lovers are narrowminded. >> >> >> >>On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Peter Heide wrote: >> >> > when i get the dvd one way or another...the first i will do is to skip >>the >>3 audio >> > tracks and go straight to the vids. >> > >> > only the third track got maybe 3 min.of interest the rest is really >>just >>noise with a rythm >> > ..just another tired release from ae. >> > >> > amber is still the best they ever done >> > >> > >> > >> > > Quoting "Albers, Brian" <BAlbers@PremiereRadio.com>: >> > > >> > > > So there's been a lot of talk about the new dvd. But nobody has >>really >> > > > commented on the music. >> > > > >> > > > How are the new tracks? Are they comparable to any of their past >>work? >>I >> > > > hope they're not like anything from that miserable Confield album. >> > > > >> > > > Thanks. >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > >> >>Hooray for Pokey! >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2002-07-23 23:47ugly and mean--- Sean Horton <sean_horton@hotmail.com> wrote: > If Autechre continued creating music li
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quoted 9 lines If Autechre continued creating music like they were in the early to mid> If Autechre continued creating music like they were in the early to mid > 90's > (Incunabula, Amber, Tri Repetea) they would sound like so many others in > the > IDM world today. They are innovaters and you have to appreciate that, > even > if you can't grasp the music yet. How can you deny Chiastic Slide or LP > 5? > Those albums were ground breaking!
People don't give Autechre enough credit. They could still be doing halfway accessible music, like Chiastic Slide, and being doing it totally differently than someone else. I don't think they "evolved" with confield, so much as they went on a tangent with it. I don't have any opinion on the rest of the argument (I like all of their albums but Confield), but I don't buy the assumption that their later releases were some kind of logical progression from their earlier stuff. Just my opinion. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-23 23:48"kiya \"i am a copier\" babzani" <denial@ix.netcom.com>> If Autechre continued creating music like they were in the early to mid 90's > (Incunabu
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quoted 3 lines If Autechre continued creating music like they were in the early to mid 90's> If Autechre continued creating music like they were in the early to mid 90's > (Incunabula, Amber, Tri Repetea) they would sound like so many others in the > IDM world today.
uhm, somebody please point out for me ONE artist that has created an album that sounds like Tri Repetae or Anvil Vapre. please. just one. if idm today sounded like old autechre i'd still be buying idm records like it was 1998. -kiya --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-24 05:58teardropbi read an interview on recordcamp.com where r devine mentioned that now he has moved into
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i read an interview on recordcamp.com where r devine mentioned that now he has moved into programming his own code to make his music since the current code in the market is not doing what he wants to do. he said most of his aleamapper was done with stuff he had designed and compiled himself. he has also shared his software with autechre and a couple of other people, have any of you seen his software in action? if you have come across his software, what do you think about it. better yet, let me know if any of you guys on this list making their own code and have music oploaded somewhere that i could perhaps check out? hmmmm, but as far as the actual music is concerned, i have to say i dont like the newest autechre and the last richard devine cd that much. its cool they are pushing the envelope, but the reason i used to like autechre / r devine so much was that they had the perfect ballance between out there madness and experimentation mixed with compositions which where still moving me on an emotional level, i can always appreciate a good interplay between pleasing melodic noise/synth lines and manipulation of tones and scales. regards, teardropb --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better
2002-07-24 19:01david turgeonkiya, & the rest of the idm list, > > If Autechre continued creating music like they were
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kiya, & the rest of the idm list,
quoted 7 lines If Autechre continued creating music like they were in the early to mid 90's> > If Autechre continued creating music like they were in the early to mid 90's > > (Incunabula, Amber, Tri Repetea) they would sound like so many others in the > > IDM world today. > uhm, somebody please point out for me ONE artist that has created an album that sounds > like Tri > Repetae or Anvil Vapre. please. just one. > if idm today sounded like old autechre i'd still be buying idm records like it was 1998.
if you don't mind me answering this question with a plug for my label... the new oeuf korreckt CD called "podweek" has some songs (particularly "ruffly" or "resem one") with an early autechre vibe to them, as well as a lot of very pleasant old school warp/reflex stylings... maybe that'll tickle your fancy? there are realaudio sound clips at this URL: http://www.electrocd.com/cat.e/0205_IMNT.html we can put more online if people ask for it... & of course 4 previous MP3 albums from oeuf korreckt, free for download: http://www.notype.com/artists/oeuf_korreckt.html sorry for the plug, i obviously like oeuf korreckt's music quite a lot which is why i released a CD of his, it has everything i like about old school idm & then some. :) have a nice day ~ david --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-24 19:09david turgeonoops... > & of course 4 previous MP3 albums from oeuf korreckt, free for download: http://
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oops...
quoted 1 line & of course 4 previous MP3 albums from oeuf korreckt, free for download: > & of course 4 previous MP3 albums from oeuf korreckt, free for download: http://www.notype.com/artists/oeuf_korreckt.html
the correct URL is: http://www.notype.com/drones/artists/oeuf_korreckt.html sorry about that! next time i'll cut & paste. :) ~d --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org