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2002-07-18 21:02Chris Dooley [idm] sequencers
├─ 2002-07-18 21:54b.phenix Re: [idm] sequencers
└─ 2002-07-18 22:16Thomas Millar Re: [idm] sequencers
└─ 2002-07-18 22:48Brian Redfern Re: [idm] sequencers
└─ 2002-07-18 22:54entitee Re: [idm] sequencers
└─ 2002-07-19 13:13fooly Re: [idm] sequencers
2002-07-19 00:31dave cronin [idm] Re: [313] sequencers
2002-07-19 01:48Chris Dooley [idm] sequencers
2002-07-19 15:25Jason Stickel Re: [idm] sequencers
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2002-07-18 21:02Chris DooleyHey guys i am looking for another software sequencer/arranger, etc than what i am used to.
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Hey guys i am looking for another software sequencer/arranger, etc than what i am used to. Forever i used acid and logic, but i was wondering if there are other programs that i could use to arrange music just to try at least? other than acid, cubase or logic please. much appreciative. d --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2002-07-18 22:16Thomas Millaron 7/18/02 5:02 PM, Chris Dooley at DooleyC@firstcharter.com wrote: > Hey guys i am lookin
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on 7/18/02 5:02 PM, Chris Dooley at DooleyC@firstcharter.com wrote:
quoted 5 lines Hey guys i am looking for another software sequencer/arranger, etc than what i> Hey guys i am looking for another software sequencer/arranger, etc than what i > am used to. > > Forever i used acid and logic, but i was wondering if there are other programs > that i could use to arrange music just to try at least?
I'm gonna throw in my eight nickels even though it's not a good answer. For my time and money, all the SW audio and seq apps I demo'd started to look the same. Even Reason wasn't what I was looking for. With SW I was always getting stuck right at the very beginning because there never seemed to be any spontaneity to it. I got tired of having to plan my tracks out in my head loop-by-loop, and, well, computers crash. AAAAARGGGH. We'll not discuss timing issues. If you're looking for something other than what you're used to I suggest looking into hardware production stations. Sampling seqs such as the Akai MPCs and the YAMAHA RS7000 (fanfare) (I own one) are so much more fun I don't think I could ever go back to software. Of course you can't really get a good demo in a store, but (total) prices (assuming you're intending to pay for the SW, which is probably a dumb assumption) are about the same for the features. Buying the Yamaha changed my whole perspective on music making. Unfortunately as with many 'dance/remix' workstation products it's very easy to fall into genre traps, but that's where you have to start fucking around. The RS7000 has a lot of excellent IDM beeps and FX. Put it this way, 'Geogaddi' was really boring to me because most of that kinda stuff I can cook up in about ten minutes now. See also '*-house'. I am not exaggerating. Plus, the Yamaha is less RSI inducing and easier on your eyes than any SW I've ever used. Chopping and rearranging samples is also extremely simple, in case you cared. Tom --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-18 22:48Brian RedfernWell, I don't know if anyone here uses mod trackers, but I get a lot of mileage using mod
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Well, I don't know if anyone here uses mod trackers, but I get a lot of mileage using mod trackers like Soundtracker, I use the computer keyboard to sequence sample triggers and then edit them and set up insanely messed up micro loops. I've got some examples up at http://brianredfern.com , I get some strange rhythms that I wouldn't come up with using a midi sequencer or something like protools. I do use hardware and software multitracking as well, like I have the korg em1, asrxpro, I mainly use them to generate loops that go into the tracker software, which I use to make more loops, which I can them turn into ogg vorbis files and scratch like vinyl from within terminatorX. I use all linux software cause I'm not a big fan of the mac/windows interfaces. The problem for most people is that you need to learn some c/c++ to use linux well, but since I program for a living this isn't a problem for me. On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Thomas Millar wrote:
quoted 41 lines on 7/18/02 5:02 PM, Chris Dooley at DooleyC@firstcharter.com wrote:> on 7/18/02 5:02 PM, Chris Dooley at DooleyC@firstcharter.com wrote: > > > Hey guys i am looking for another software sequencer/arranger, etc than what i > > am used to. > > > > Forever i used acid and logic, but i was wondering if there are other programs > > that i could use to arrange music just to try at least? > > I'm gonna throw in my eight nickels even though it's not a good answer. For > my time and money, all the SW audio and seq apps I demo'd started to look > the same. Even Reason wasn't what I was looking for. With SW I was always > getting stuck right at the very beginning because there never seemed to be > any spontaneity to it. I got tired of having to plan my tracks out in my > head loop-by-loop, and, well, computers crash. AAAAARGGGH. We'll not discuss > timing issues. > > If you're looking for something other than what you're used to I suggest > looking into hardware production stations. Sampling seqs such as the Akai > MPCs and the YAMAHA RS7000 (fanfare) (I own one) are so much more fun I > don't think I could ever go back to software. Of course you can't really get > a good demo in a store, but (total) prices (assuming you're intending to pay > for the SW, which is probably a dumb assumption) are about the same for the > features. Buying the Yamaha changed my whole perspective on music making. > Unfortunately as with many 'dance/remix' workstation products it's very easy > to fall into genre traps, but that's where you have to start fucking around. > The RS7000 has a lot of excellent IDM beeps and FX. Put it this way, > 'Geogaddi' was really boring to me because most of that kinda stuff I can > cook up in about ten minutes now. See also '*-house'. I am not exaggerating. > > Plus, the Yamaha is less RSI inducing and easier on your eyes than any SW > I've ever used. Chopping and rearranging samples is also extremely simple, > in case you cared. > > Tom > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-07-18 22:54entiteeBack when I used Impulse Tracker I would load up random files as samples and get some craz
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Back when I used Impulse Tracker I would load up random files as samples and get some crazy good sounds. if Impulse Tracker would only work on XP I would hammer out ideas in no time. --kev/entitee http://www.entitee.com/dnb on 7/18/02 3:48 PM, Brian Redfern at bredfern@calarts.edu wrote:
quoted 65 lines Well, I don't know if anyone here uses mod trackers, but I get a lot of> Well, I don't know if anyone here uses mod trackers, but I get a lot of > mileage using mod trackers like Soundtracker, I use the computer keyboard > to sequence sample triggers and then edit them and set up insanely messed > up micro loops. I've got some examples up at http://brianredfern.com , I > get some strange rhythms that I wouldn't come up with using a midi > sequencer or something like protools. I do use hardware and software > multitracking as well, like I have the korg em1, asrxpro, I mainly use > them to generate loops that go into the tracker software, which I use to > make more loops, which I can them turn into ogg vorbis files and scratch > like vinyl from within terminatorX. I use all linux software cause I'm not > a big fan of the mac/windows interfaces. The problem for most people is > that you need to learn some c/c++ to use linux well, but since I program > for a living this isn't a problem for me. > > On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Thomas Millar wrote: > >> on 7/18/02 5:02 PM, Chris Dooley at DooleyC@firstcharter.com wrote: >> >>> Hey guys i am looking for another software sequencer/arranger, etc than what >>> i >>> am used to. >>> >>> Forever i used acid and logic, but i was wondering if there are other >>> programs >>> that i could use to arrange music just to try at least? >> >> I'm gonna throw in my eight nickels even though it's not a good answer. For >> my time and money, all the SW audio and seq apps I demo'd started to look >> the same. Even Reason wasn't what I was looking for. With SW I was always >> getting stuck right at the very beginning because there never seemed to be >> any spontaneity to it. I got tired of having to plan my tracks out in my >> head loop-by-loop, and, well, computers crash. AAAAARGGGH. We'll not discuss >> timing issues. >> >> If you're looking for something other than what you're used to I suggest >> looking into hardware production stations. Sampling seqs such as the Akai >> MPCs and the YAMAHA RS7000 (fanfare) (I own one) are so much more fun I >> don't think I could ever go back to software. Of course you can't really get >> a good demo in a store, but (total) prices (assuming you're intending to pay >> for the SW, which is probably a dumb assumption) are about the same for the >> features. Buying the Yamaha changed my whole perspective on music making. >> Unfortunately as with many 'dance/remix' workstation products it's very easy >> to fall into genre traps, but that's where you have to start fucking around. >> The RS7000 has a lot of excellent IDM beeps and FX. Put it this way, >> 'Geogaddi' was really boring to me because most of that kinda stuff I can >> cook up in about ten minutes now. See also '*-house'. I am not exaggerating. >> >> Plus, the Yamaha is less RSI inducing and easier on your eyes than any SW >> I've ever used. Chopping and rearranging samples is also extremely simple, >> in case you cared. >> >> Tom >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-07-19 13:13foolyI've gotten impulse tracker to work with this program in windows xp. http://www.ece.mcgill
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I've gotten impulse tracker to work with this program in windows xp. http://www.ece.mcgill.ca/~vromas/vdmsound/
quoted 83 lines Back when I used Impulse Tracker I would load up random files as samples> Back when I used Impulse Tracker I would load up random files as samples > and get some crazy good sounds. if Impulse Tracker would only work on XP > I would hammer out ideas in no time. > > --kev/entitee > http://www.entitee.com/dnb > > > on 7/18/02 3:48 PM, Brian Redfern at bredfern@calarts.edu wrote: > >> Well, I don't know if anyone here uses mod trackers, but I get a lot >> of mileage using mod trackers like Soundtracker, I use the computer >> keyboard to sequence sample triggers and then edit them and set up >> insanely messed up micro loops. I've got some examples up at >> http://brianredfern.com , I get some strange rhythms that I wouldn't >> come up with using a midi sequencer or something like protools. I do >> use hardware and software multitracking as well, like I have the korg >> em1, asrxpro, I mainly use them to generate loops that go into the >> tracker software, which I use to make more loops, which I can them >> turn into ogg vorbis files and scratch like vinyl from within >> terminatorX. I use all linux software cause I'm not a big fan of the >> mac/windows interfaces. The problem for most people is that you need >> to learn some c/c++ to use linux well, but since I program for a >> living this isn't a problem for me. >> >> On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Thomas Millar wrote: >> >>> on 7/18/02 5:02 PM, Chris Dooley at DooleyC@firstcharter.com wrote: >>> >>>> Hey guys i am looking for another software sequencer/arranger, etc >>>> than what i >>>> am used to. >>>> >>>> Forever i used acid and logic, but i was wondering if there are >>>> other programs >>>> that i could use to arrange music just to try at least? >>> >>> I'm gonna throw in my eight nickels even though it's not a good >>> answer. For my time and money, all the SW audio and seq apps I demo'd >>> started to look the same. Even Reason wasn't what I was looking for. >>> With SW I was always getting stuck right at the very beginning >>> because there never seemed to be any spontaneity to it. I got tired >>> of having to plan my tracks out in my head loop-by-loop, and, well, >>> computers crash. AAAAARGGGH. We'll not discuss timing issues. >>> >>> If you're looking for something other than what you're used to I >>> suggest looking into hardware production stations. Sampling seqs such >>> as the Akai MPCs and the YAMAHA RS7000 (fanfare) (I own one) are so >>> much more fun I don't think I could ever go back to software. Of >>> course you can't really get a good demo in a store, but (total) >>> prices (assuming you're intending to pay for the SW, which is >>> probably a dumb assumption) are about the same for the features. >>> Buying the Yamaha changed my whole perspective on music making. >>> Unfortunately as with many 'dance/remix' workstation products it's >>> very easy to fall into genre traps, but that's where you have to >>> start fucking around. The RS7000 has a lot of excellent IDM beeps and >>> FX. Put it this way, 'Geogaddi' was really boring to me because most >>> of that kinda stuff I can cook up in about ten minutes now. See also >>> '*-house'. I am not exaggerating. >>> >>> Plus, the Yamaha is less RSI inducing and easier on your eyes than >>> any SW I've ever used. Chopping and rearranging samples is also >>> extremely simple, in case you cared. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To > unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2002-07-19 00:31dave croninhumanized timing? what's that? some new hardware sequencer or something? ;) > cubase sx or
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humanized timing? what's that? some new hardware sequencer or something? ;)
quoted 40 lines cubase sx or sonar.> cubase sx or sonar. > > > or you could go for humanized timing, but thats another story for another > list > > -Joe > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Dooley" <DooleyC@firstcharter.com> > To: <313@hyperreal.org>; <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 5:02 PM > Subject: [313] sequencers > > > Hey guys i am looking for another software sequencer/arranger, etc than what > i am used to. > > Forever i used acid and logic, but i was wondering if there are other > programs that i could use to arrange music just to try at least? > other than acid, cubase or logic please. > > much appreciative. > > d > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: 313-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: 313-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: 313-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: 313-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-07-19 01:48Chris Dooleycan remember who sent the suggestion to get a yamaha rs7000 (subbed to digest) but just to
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can remember who sent the suggestion to get a yamaha rs7000 (subbed to digest) but just to let them know, i do already have this station and quite enjoy it yet the learning curve is step and they hopefully come with a bug fix for the recording feature so that you can sample listen and record. (another topic another day). i might be alright with cubase sx, except i cant really figure it out and i hate reading manuals, seriously... and noone, where i am, is in tune enough to know anything about programs i already run and use. dont get me started on stores like mars, guitar center, etc. they pick some of these heads right out of mcdonalds, i think. oh and by the way whomever sent me the cd with the mcd's song that started out with it..... LOVING IT.....but then again i think this was from microsound.....? peace D --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-19 15:25Jason StickelSpeaking of the MPC, a little birdy told me that there was rumor of an MPC 400 coming out
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Speaking of the MPC, a little birdy told me that there was rumor of an MPC 400 coming out - more of a workstation from what I'm told. Any truth to this? Haven't researched anything pertaining to boxes lately, but I am obviously interested (who wouldn't be, right?). Much appreciation. js
quoted 100 lines From: fooly <kingfool@optonline.net>>From: fooly <kingfool@optonline.net> >Reply-To: kingfool@optonline.net >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] sequencers >Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 09:13:02 -0400 (EDT) > >I've gotten impulse tracker to work with this program in windows xp. >http://www.ece.mcgill.ca/~vromas/vdmsound/ > > > Back when I used Impulse Tracker I would load up random files as samples > > and get some crazy good sounds. if Impulse Tracker would only work on XP > > I would hammer out ideas in no time. > > > > --kev/entitee > > http://www.entitee.com/dnb > > > > > > on 7/18/02 3:48 PM, Brian Redfern at bredfern@calarts.edu wrote: > > > >> Well, I don't know if anyone here uses mod trackers, but I get a lot > >> of mileage using mod trackers like Soundtracker, I use the computer > >> keyboard to sequence sample triggers and then edit them and set up > >> insanely messed up micro loops. I've got some examples up at > >> http://brianredfern.com , I get some strange rhythms that I wouldn't > >> come up with using a midi sequencer or something like protools. I do > >> use hardware and software multitracking as well, like I have the korg > >> em1, asrxpro, I mainly use them to generate loops that go into the > >> tracker software, which I use to make more loops, which I can them > >> turn into ogg vorbis files and scratch like vinyl from within > >> terminatorX. I use all linux software cause I'm not a big fan of the > >> mac/windows interfaces. The problem for most people is that you need > >> to learn some c/c++ to use linux well, but since I program for a > >> living this isn't a problem for me. > >> > >> On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Thomas Millar wrote: > >> > >>> on 7/18/02 5:02 PM, Chris Dooley at DooleyC@firstcharter.com wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hey guys i am looking for another software sequencer/arranger, etc > >>>> than what i > >>>> am used to. > >>>> > >>>> Forever i used acid and logic, but i was wondering if there are > >>>> other programs > >>>> that i could use to arrange music just to try at least? > >>> > >>> I'm gonna throw in my eight nickels even though it's not a good > >>> answer. For my time and money, all the SW audio and seq apps I demo'd > >>> started to look the same. Even Reason wasn't what I was looking for. > >>> With SW I was always getting stuck right at the very beginning > >>> because there never seemed to be any spontaneity to it. I got tired > >>> of having to plan my tracks out in my head loop-by-loop, and, well, > >>> computers crash. AAAAARGGGH. We'll not discuss timing issues. > >>> > >>> If you're looking for something other than what you're used to I > >>> suggest looking into hardware production stations. Sampling seqs such > >>> as the Akai MPCs and the YAMAHA RS7000 (fanfare) (I own one) are so > >>> much more fun I don't think I could ever go back to software. Of > >>> course you can't really get a good demo in a store, but (total) > >>> prices (assuming you're intending to pay for the SW, which is > >>> probably a dumb assumption) are about the same for the features. > >>> Buying the Yamaha changed my whole perspective on music making. > >>> Unfortunately as with many 'dance/remix' workstation products it's > >>> very easy to fall into genre traps, but that's where you have to > >>> start fucking around. The RS7000 has a lot of excellent IDM beeps and > >>> FX. Put it this way, 'Geogaddi' was really boring to me because most > >>> of that kinda stuff I can cook up in about ten minutes now. See also > >>> '*-house'. I am not exaggerating. > >>> > >>> Plus, the Yamaha is less RSI inducing and easier on your eyes than > >>> any SW I've ever used. Chopping and rearranging samples is also > >>> extremely simple, in case you cared. > >>> > >>> Tom > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To > > unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-07-19 17:03EggyToastAt 11:25 AM 7/19/2002 -0400, Jason Stickel wrote: >Speaking of the MPC, a little birdy tol
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At 11:25 AM 7/19/2002 -0400, Jason Stickel wrote:
quoted 4 lines Speaking of the MPC, a little birdy told me that there was rumor of an MPC>Speaking of the MPC, a little birdy told me that there was rumor of an MPC >400 coming out - more of a workstation from what I'm told. Any truth to >this? Haven't researched anything pertaining to boxes lately, but I am >obviously interested (who wouldn't be, right?). Much appreciation.
MPC 4000, you mean? It's been out for a while, costing about $3000 new from most stores. It's pretty cool, although still built on the standard MPC model, which means it's great for drums and rhythm but not so great for other types of samples. There's more info at www.akaipro.com and various review sites like sonicstate.com and harmony-central.com derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- with lather thingy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-21 22:57nemesis XOso has anyone got experiene with MAX/MSP? i'm looking into that. what's the cost of the ba
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so has anyone got experiene with MAX/MSP? i'm looking into that. what's the cost of the base program? or msp? --- "when all soldiers lay their weapons down, or when all kings and queens relinquish their crowns, there will be sorrow no more." --Bad Religion On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:16:55 Thomas Millar wrote:
quoted 41 lines on 7/18/02 5:02 PM, Chris Dooley at DooleyC@firstcharter.com wrote:>on 7/18/02 5:02 PM, Chris Dooley at DooleyC@firstcharter.com wrote: > >> Hey guys i am looking for another software sequencer/arranger, etc than what i >> am used to. >> >> Forever i used acid and logic, but i was wondering if there are other programs >> that i could use to arrange music just to try at least? > >I'm gonna throw in my eight nickels even though it's not a good answer. For >my time and money, all the SW audio and seq apps I demo'd started to look >the same. Even Reason wasn't what I was looking for. With SW I was always >getting stuck right at the very beginning because there never seemed to be >any spontaneity to it. I got tired of having to plan my tracks out in my >head loop-by-loop, and, well, computers crash. AAAAARGGGH. We'll not discuss >timing issues. > >If you're looking for something other than what you're used to I suggest >looking into hardware production stations. Sampling seqs such as the Akai >MPCs and the YAMAHA RS7000 (fanfare) (I own one) are so much more fun I >don't think I could ever go back to software. Of course you can't really get >a good demo in a store, but (total) prices (assuming you're intending to pay >for the SW, which is probably a dumb assumption) are about the same for the >features. Buying the Yamaha changed my whole perspective on music making. >Unfortunately as with many 'dance/remix' workstation products it's very easy >to fall into genre traps, but that's where you have to start fucking around. >The RS7000 has a lot of excellent IDM beeps and FX. Put it this way, >'Geogaddi' was really boring to me because most of that kinda stuff I can >cook up in about ten minutes now. See also '*-house'. I am not exaggerating. > >Plus, the Yamaha is less RSI inducing and easier on your eyes than any SW >I've ever used. Chopping and rearranging samples is also extremely simple, >in case you cared. > >Tom > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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