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2002-07-02 18:54patrick matte [idm] hong kong and china
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2002-07-02 18:54patrick matteIf anyone on this list would like to share his views, perspectives or experiences about Ho
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If anyone on this list would like to share his views, perspectives or experiences about Hong Kong and China, I would greatly appreciate it. Its nice to get ideas from people in the same frame of mind. So I'll be travelling there with my girlfriend in the next few weeks. We'll be landing in Hong Kong and later we'll head north to Beijing where we'll be staying at a friends house. I'd also like to see the streets of Shanghai. From what I read in books and mags, I expect the language barrier to be immense but I hope we'll still enjoy the trip. I guess food is another thing that'll be very different from here in Canada. I expect a big hot and humid wave hitting us when I get out of the plane in Hong Kong. I'm sure that i'll remember this trip for a long time. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-02 20:29Aaron XimmOn Tue, 2 Jul 2002, patrick matte wrote: > experiences about Hong Kong and China, I would
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On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, patrick matte wrote:
quoted 5 lines experiences about Hong Kong and China, I would greatly appreciate it. Its> experiences about Hong Kong and China, I would greatly appreciate it. Its > nice to get ideas from people in the same frame of mind. So I'll be > travelling there with my girlfriend in the next few weeks. We'll be landing > in Hong Kong and later we'll head north to Beijing where we'll be staying at > a friends house. I'd also like to see the streets of Shanghai. From what I
Hi Patrick, My wife and I went through China and Tibet for six weeks last year as part of our honeymoon ...I visited HK right before the handover too. You should have a great time! Advice #1 ~ take a recording device and decent mike!!! That's my thing, so I'm biased, but you will never regret it, I assure. Heck, you could buy a cheap MD recorder there -- but I'd bring mics up front. I just posted a short recording made in Shanghai on my 'one minute vacation' page yesterday: http://www.quietamerican.org/vacation.html Don't worry about the language barrier -- it's definitely a bit steeper than other parts of SE Asia (e.g. Thailand) but if you can get the hang of the tones and practice on your interminable bus/train rides you'll do fine. The up-side of Mandarin (which won't help as much in HK...) is that the grammer is VERY straightforward -- there's no declination, agreement, or tense to speak of.. ie. you end up saything likes "train beijing go tommorow yes/no?" and getting answers like "train go!". We found the problem was it was TOO easy to learn some basic vocabulary -- and when we cranked it out people would happily launch into full-on replies assuming we could follow them... ! As always it's easier I think to speak than understand. Anyway. Food. If you're a vegetarian it'll be a bit tougher (it was for us) but we ended up thriving on what we called "point-and-chew" places, tables set up on the street with all the ingredients laid out -- we'd just point at a bunch of stuff we wanted and watch it get stir-fried up. Tofu and pepper and chile and peanuts and veg etc... mmmmmm. And that's a good cheap way to eat too. You can get chilled fruity drinks everywhere too, we put half a dozen away an afternoon walking around in the heat. Most of all -- wander at random. If you have time and inclination I like nothing better than to just pick random less-visited spots on the map -- and just go. And then keep going. The less "destinations" the better ... the best parts are always the random, serendipitous encounters in the middle of nowhere, the chance whim based on someone's anecdote that lands in you in the most amazing, awful, odd, sublime situations. But at least, wander around the cities you're in with only vague destinations. Even if it's hot and you're tired... We found public transport fairly easy to figure out, at least the bus numbers where in roman characters. Maps are easy to come by if rapidly outdated in urban areas (e.g. Shanghai!). Oh yeah, if you have time read 'soul mountain' and 'wild swans' before you go to get some perspective... Basics... Take traveler's checks, denominated in US dollars if possible. Keep some emergency cash. Make sure you have the right immunizations. Wear a 'pouch' or something to keep your passport in. We didn't make it to Beijing but you MUST go to the hutong areas -- the old alleyways that are being torn down rapidly. You will probably be interested in an interview I did with the experimental sound artist Dajuin Yao available on my website, in which he talks about his experiences doing field recording in China: http://www.quietamerican.org/related.html There are also some of his recordings from Beijing in that interview... Anyway... if you have specific questions feel free to write me off-list, I'm quite enthusiastic about such (ad)ventures! Best regards, aaron ghede@well.com http://www.quietamerican.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-02 23:36stephenHi .. Well I have been out here for 8 years in Hong Kong - and am part of a growing underg
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Hi .. Well I have been out here for 8 years in Hong Kong - and am part of a growing underground music scene that is actually quite active here - you are more than welcome to contact me off list - and let me know when you are in town and I will point you in a few directions ... stephen http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com patrick matte wrote:
quoted 19 lines If anyone on this list would like to share his views, perspectives or> If anyone on this list would like to share his views, perspectives or > experiences about Hong Kong and China, I would greatly appreciate it. Its > nice to get ideas from people in the same frame of mind. So I'll be > travelling there with my girlfriend in the next few weeks. We'll be landing > in Hong Kong and later we'll head north to Beijing where we'll be staying at > a friends house. I'd also like to see the streets of Shanghai. From what I > read in books and mags, I expect the language barrier to be immense but I > hope we'll still enjoy the trip. I guess food is another thing that'll be > very different from here in Canada. I expect a big hot and humid wave > hitting us when I get out of the plane in Hong Kong. I'm sure that i'll > remember this trip for a long time. > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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