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hi all, i am looking for a software with what i could edit some mp3 files without encoding/decoding them. can you help me on this one? i thought virtualdub would do it fine, but it copes only with video footages... :( bias. http://bias.underground.hu xpn-voice-added-contact:/dev/70/312/9708 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 12:10 AM 5/26/2002 +0200, you wrote:

quoted 6 lines hi all,

>hi all, > >i am looking for a software with what i could edit some mp3 files without >encoding/decoding them. can you help me on this one? >i thought virtualdub would do it fine, but it copes only with video >footages... :(

Actually, any program that would edit mp3's directly *would* decode them, as they're essentially just data files on their own (like zip files). Even programs that play them decode them, although it's all in RAM. So, ideally, any program that can open mp3's and then re-encode them would work. Unfortunately, there's nothing that does that non-destructively :( derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- with lather thingy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 2 lines So, ideally, any program that can open mp3's and then re-encode them would

> So, ideally, any program that can open mp3's and then re-encode them would > work. Unfortunately, there's nothing that does that non-destructively :(

not entirely true. the quelcom command-line utilities, for unix-like systems or micro$oft systems running cygwin, are able to perform simple editing functions (cutting and joining) without loss of quality. http://www.etse.urv.es/~dmanye/quelcom/quelcom.html cheers, phase --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Sat, 25 May 2002 phase@booyaka.com wrote:

quoted 8 lines So, ideally, any program that can open mp3's and then re-encode them would

> > So, ideally, any program that can open mp3's and then re-encode them would > > work. Unfortunately, there's nothing that does that non-destructively :( > > not entirely true. the quelcom command-line utilities, for unix-like > systems or micro$oft systems running cygwin, are able to perform simple > editing functions (cutting and joining) without loss of quality. > > http://www.etse.urv.es/~dmanye/quelcom/quelcom.html

thanks for it, i'll try it out. bias. http://bias.underground.hu xpn-voice-added-contact:/dev/70/312/9708 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

* phase@booyaka.com (phase@booyaka.com) said:

quoted 5 lines not entirely true. the quelcom command-line utilities, for unix-like

> not entirely true. the quelcom command-line utilities, for unix-like > systems or micro$oft systems running cygwin, are able to perform simple > editing functions (cutting and joining) without loss of quality. > > http://www.etse.urv.es/~dmanye/quelcom/quelcom.html

The mp3asm project has similar goals: http://www.mp3asm.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Sat, 25 May 2002, EggyToast wrote:

quoted 3 lines Actually, any program that would edit mp3's directly *would* decode them,

> Actually, any program that would edit mp3's directly *would* decode them, > as they're essentially just data files on their own (like zip files). Even > programs that play them decode them, although it's all in RAM.

i only need to cut and join mp3s by frames, nothing more... i can't belive there's no program for that. bias. http://bias.underground.hu xpn-voice-added-contact:/dev/70/312/9708 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

With Sonic Foundry - Acid 3 - you can now work on mp3 files directly - incldig all the normal time-stretch functions etc ... stephen http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com phase@booyaka.com wrote:

quoted 15 lines So, ideally, any program that can open mp3's and then re-encode them would

> > So, ideally, any program that can open mp3's and then re-encode them would > > work. Unfortunately, there's nothing that does that non-destructively :( > > not entirely true. the quelcom command-line utilities, for unix-like > systems or micro$oft systems running cygwin, are able to perform simple > editing functions (cutting and joining) without loss of quality. > > http://www.etse.urv.es/~dmanye/quelcom/quelcom.html > > cheers, > phase > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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At 08:57 AM 5/26/02 +0200, [se!q {is!] bias} wrote:

quoted 2 lines i only need to cut and join mp3s by frames, nothing more...

>i only need to cut and join mp3s by frames, nothing more... >i can't belive there's no program for that.

There's also Unphuck, a free tool (Windows only) that does exactly that: http://www.thesleepwalker.com/software/ - Ken ken's last ever radio extravaganza http://free-music.com/ken/extrav/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I've just come back from Ocean in Hackney where Coldcut and about ten VJ crews have got computers and little work areas set up with all kinds of software and playthings people were checking out. They got sponsored by NESTA to put on a VJ workshop and VJ v DJ laptop v. live jam. Really good because VJ's were milling around and there's enough chance to get to talk to guys about how they do it. As I was leaving the workshops were beginning, including a 4pm panel discussion entitled "Hang the VJ?" discussing copyright for vjs and how vjs perform given the ownership of images. Matt Black (Coldcut) and Carles Kriel Radio ! VJ and contemporary visual artist are on the panel which includes someone from the Hypermedia Research Centre @ University of Westminster.. I'm back up there later, cause I checked out the room for the VJ v. DJ jam. I havent seen so many laptops lined in a row .... ever. There musta been about 20 laptops set up on stage with live drum kit a huge screen over the laptops (guess they're gonna project in front of themselves in the dark)... I think some of the best vj's in London are up to the challenge. even if yr a sunday nite 24 addict, coldcut are on @ 10pm so it looks like a lotta cool stuff yet to come. the only miserable thing is i decided to drive up there from southwest london and crosstown traffic is worse than jimi hendrix. ; -- SOLID STEEL: Coldcut & Friends Radio: BBC London 94.9FM, Monday, 12pm>2AM UK Time Live WEB - BBC London Website http://www.bbc.co.uk/london Online-archive: http://www.groovetech.com/solidsteel LOCAL TIME: http://www.worldtimezone.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 2 lines i am looking for a software with what i could edit some mp3 files without

> >i am looking for a software with what i could edit some mp3 files without > >encoding/decoding them. can you help me on this one?

hows this: http://www.mp3surgeon.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

http://www.logiccell.com/~mp3trim/ there should be a pro version. If you have a problem finding it - email me. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org