i'll chime in as i used to be a big fan of FLA until about this period in
their music....
i didn't recall them lifting such gratuitous samples when they were in the
middle of the wax trax heyday of the late 80s, early 90s. in fact, the last
good original album they released was "tactical neural implant." shortly
after this they rocked out into the ministry/NIN/aggro-guitar fad for a
couple albums, then went all goa trance (which was never cool in my
opinion).... this is about there they lost me. then they started lifting
large chunks of aphex twin, daft punk, autechre, prodigy, etc (basically any
en vogue "electronica" artist that was big at the moment). this carried
through both FLA and other projects such as noise unit and equinox (i think
that was the name of it, anyway).
it struck me as annoying only because they had already seemed to be jumping
on whatever current bandwagon struck their fancy, rather than coming up with
anything as new or interesting as what they were doing the first time around
(if it was all that original to begin with, i guess that's debatable). they
didn't seem to realize that sampling the prodigy isn't going to make you the
next prodigy... or daft punk, or autechre, etc. etc. etc....
anyway, i'm all for sampling, in fact most of my own music is generated from
fragments of samples, but it's this sort of routine that gives it a bad
name. at least credit the sources, guys, if you're going to be so unoriginal
as to rip huge slabs of other people's music.
the only upside is that FLA was at least trying to progress (just not very
well)... a lot of other electro-industrial stuff i was into at the same time
seemed to be going nowhere fast...
quoted 62 lines From: "d_jak" <d_jak@netzero.net>
>From: "d_jak" <d_jak@netzero.net>
>To: "Aaron D Meyers" <adm226@nyu.edu>, "EggyToast" <eggy@eggytoast.com>
>CC: <idm@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [idm] FLA
>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:12:04 -0400
>
>i think derek is totally on point here.
>
>as i recall reading on this list a few months back, their name says it all.
>they take stuff from the front of the line (i.e. - a finished product) and
>reassemble it into something "new."
>
>- d
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: EggyToast <eggy@eggytoast.com>
>To: Aaron D Meyers <adm226@nyu.edu>
>Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [idm] FLA
>
>
> > I can't offer concrete evidence, such as album titles and track
>listings,
> > since I don't listen to FLA (for reasons I just mentioned), but, for
> > instance, their "metal" album is composed of directly lifted riffs from
> > Metallica and Slayer albums (among others).
> >
> > And on the IDM tip, within the course of an album, I heard the entirety
>of
> > "Wax the Nip," and nearly all of "Ventolin" (both Aphex Twin songs). A
> > later song in the album had sampled some song off of Tri Repetae. And I
> > don't mean sample like the gratuitous sampling of that little skittery
>bit
> > in Bass Cadet. I mean like a good 30 or 40 seconds. Not even
>reprocessed
> > or mixed up. Just recorded off the original source with some "grindy
> > noise" in front of it.
> >
> > But that's all that I've heard. After bringing it up to a friend of
>mine
> > who's really into FLA, he said "that's their thing!"
> >
> > I checked the album covers and liner notes and saw no reference of the
> > tracks i just spoke of.
> >
> > derek
> >
> > At 06:29 PM 4/18/2002 -0400, Aaron D Meyers wrote:
> > >OOOH!!!!!!! SLAAAAAAAAAM!
> > >
> > >Well if you're gonna make a grandiose statement like that, would you
> > >care to tell all us laymen the wonderful bands they're pillaging from
> > >so we can stop listening to such utterly derivative trash and get to
> > >the really cool source?
> > >
> > >-Aaron
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I've never really gotten into FLA because I usually own the albums
> > > > they're ripping off. I'd rather listen to the originals.
> > > >
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