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2002-04-10 05:44Blake Irvin Re: [idm] OT f.u.c.k. trivia
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2002-04-10 05:45Geoffrey Richards [idm] OT f.u.c.k. trivia
2002-04-10 05:54String Theory Re: [idm] OT f.u.c.k. trivia
└─ 2002-04-11 21:14Kyle Rawlins Re: [idm] OT f.u.c.k. trivia
2002-04-10 07:50Aaron Trumm Re: [idm] OT f.u.c.k. trivia
└─ 2002-04-10 17:19hess Re: [idm] OT f.u.c.k. trivia
└─ 2002-04-10 18:39EggyToast Re: [idm] OT f.u.c.k. trivia
2002-04-10 07:50Aaron Trumm Re: [idm] OT f.u.c.k. trivia
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2002-04-10 05:44Blake IrvinTECHNICALLY, i think, the root of the word is from Old German, meaning something like "to
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TECHNICALLY, i think, the root of the word is from Old German, meaning something like "to strike"--i'm remembering "fuken" or something like that. however, your story is much more entertaining. blake/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoffrey Richards" <harlequin_9@hotmail.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:45 AM Subject: [idm] OT f.u.c.k. trivia
quoted 6 lines Another thing I learned (tonight at work) that I thought was interesteng,> > Another thing I learned (tonight at work) that I thought was interesteng, > and wanted to share. The root of the word fuck. > > Appearantly the word came from signs that were given to people of > England to hang on their doors (either in the dark or middle ages I'd
guess)
quoted 12 lines that granted permission to copulate, as the only ones allowed at the time> that granted permission to copulate, as the only ones allowed at the time > were royals. > > Fornification Under Command of the King > > Well, 'command' might not have been the right word, but you get the idea. > > cheers, > geoff > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at
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2002-04-10 06:59EggyToastAt 01:44 AM 4/10/2002 -0400, you wrote: >TECHNICALLY, i think, the root of the word is fro
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At 01:44 AM 4/10/2002 -0400, you wrote:
quoted 4 lines TECHNICALLY, i think, the root of the word is from Old German, meaning>TECHNICALLY, i think, the root of the word is from Old German, meaning >something like "to strike"--i'm remembering "fuken" or something like that. > >however, your story is much more entertaining.
More entertaining, and, unfortunately, entirely urban legend. derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- with lather thingy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-04-10 05:45Geoffrey RichardsAnother thing I learned (tonight at work) that I thought was interesteng, and wanted to sh
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Another thing I learned (tonight at work) that I thought was interesteng, and wanted to share. The root of the word fuck. Appearantly the word came from signs that were given to people of England to hang on their doors (either in the dark or middle ages I'd guess) that granted permission to copulate, as the only ones allowed at the time were royals. Fornification Under Command of the King Well, 'command' might not have been the right word, but you get the idea. cheers, geoff _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-04-10 05:54String Theory"Geoffrey Richards" <harlequin_9@hotmail.com> writes: > Another thing I learned (tonight a
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"Geoffrey Richards" <harlequin_9@hotmail.com> writes:
quoted 9 lines Another thing I learned (tonight at work) that I thought was interesteng,> Another thing I learned (tonight at work) that I thought was interesteng, > and wanted to share. The root of the word fuck. > > Appearantly the word came from signs that were given to people of > England to hang on their doors (either in the dark or middle ages I'd guess) > that granted permission to copulate, as the only ones allowed at the time > were royals. > > Fornification Under Command of the King
Nope, it's much much older than English. It dates back to the proto German/English language spoken (i believe) by the Angles, if not before. Fuck is a whole lot older than acronyms, and probably even older than written language itself. Check the O.E.D if you don't believe it... Josh
quoted 15 lines Well, 'command' might not have been the right word, but you get the idea.> Well, 'command' might not have been the right word, but you get the idea. > > cheers, > geoff > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >
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2002-04-11 21:14Kyle RawlinsOn Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 12:54:03AM -0500, String Theory wrote: > Nope, it's much much olde
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On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 12:54:03AM -0500, String Theory wrote:
quoted 7 lines Nope, it's much much older than English. It dates back to the proto> Nope, it's much much older than English. It dates back to the proto > German/English language spoken (i believe) by the Angles, if not > before. Fuck is a whole lot older than acronyms, and probably even > older than written language itself. Check the O.E.D if you don't > believe it... > > Josh
I did in fact just check the OED (having a handy institutional subscription available). I thought people might be entertained so here is what it says: Etymology: [Early mod.E fuck, fuk, answering to a ME. type *fuken (wk. vb.) not found; ulterior etym. unknown. Synonymous G. ficken cannot be shown to be related.] ME = Middle English (spoken approx. 1100AD-1500AD, the language of Chaucer), mod.E = modern english etym. = etymology, G. = german, wk. vb. = weak verb i.e. regular verb The sense of the word has remained remarkably unchanged since the relevent period. They also comment that it is difficult to find in printed form having been somewhat taboo as long as it has been around. There is more that can be said about this etymology but what they have given here is really all that can be reliably establashed. Some more information (as well as comments on other b acronyms) at: http://www.urbanlegends.com/language/etymology/fuck/ The earliest examples they give for the verbal form are: (fuck, V.) Sense 1, transitive verb: a1503 DUNBAR Poems lxxv. 13 Be his feiris he wald haue fukkit. Sense 3, intensifier: a1568 A. SCOTT Poems iv. 55 Thir foure, the suth to sane, Enforsis thame to fucking. (fuck, N.) Sense 1, act of copulation: 1680 ANON. in Rochester's Poems on Several Occasions (1950) 37 Thus was I Rook'd of Twelve substantial Fucks. (fucker, as in someone who fucks) 1598 FLORIO Worlde of Wordes 137/1 Fottitore, a iaper, a sarder, a swiver, a fucker, an occupier. For both the noun and verb forms there's a bunch of other slightly different senses that only are attested textually in the 1900s, so I left them out. There's also an old insult 'windfucker' or 'fuck-wind' which was also the name for a kind of bird. Here is an example: 1602 Narcissus MS. Rawl. Poet. 212, lf. 80, I tell you, my little windfuckers, had not a certaine melancholye ingendred with a nippinge dolour overshadowed the sunne shine of my mirthe, I had beene I pre, sequor, one of your consorte. -Kyle R -- http://mas.cs.umass.edu/~rawlins -- I am a real worm, I am an actual worm. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-04-10 07:50Aaron Trummnope - total crap ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoffrey Richards" <harlequin_9@hotm
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nope - total crap ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoffrey Richards" <harlequin_9@hotmail.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:45 AM Subject: [idm] OT f.u.c.k. trivia
quoted 6 lines Another thing I learned (tonight at work) that I thought was interesteng,> > Another thing I learned (tonight at work) that I thought was interesteng, > and wanted to share. The root of the word fuck. > > Appearantly the word came from signs that were given to people of > England to hang on their doors (either in the dark or middle ages I'd
guess)
quoted 12 lines that granted permission to copulate, as the only ones allowed at the time> that granted permission to copulate, as the only ones allowed at the time > were royals. > > Fornification Under Command of the King > > Well, 'command' might not have been the right word, but you get the idea. > > cheers, > geoff > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at
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2002-04-10 17:19hessI always thought that is stood for For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge. Wasn't that the name of
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I always thought that is stood for For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge. Wasn't that the name of a Van Halen album too...? On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Aaron Trumm wrote: AT>nope - total crap AT> AT> AT>----- Original Message ----- AT>From: "Geoffrey Richards" <harlequin_9@hotmail.com> AT>To: <idm@hyperreal.org> AT>Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:45 AM AT>Subject: [idm] OT f.u.c.k. trivia AT> AT> AT>> AT>> Another thing I learned (tonight at work) that I thought was interesteng, AT>> and wanted to share. The root of the word fuck. AT>> AT>> Appearantly the word came from signs that were given to people of AT>> England to hang on their doors (either in the dark or middle ages I'd AT>guess) AT>> that granted permission to copulate, as the only ones allowed at the time AT>> were royals. AT>> AT>> Fornification Under Command of the King AT>> AT>> Well, 'command' might not have been the right word, but you get the idea. AT>> AT>> cheers, AT>> geoff AT>> AT>> _________________________________________________________________ AT>> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at AT>http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. AT>> AT>> AT>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- AT>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org AT>> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org AT>> AT> AT> AT>--------------------------------------------------------------------- AT>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org AT>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org AT> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-04-10 18:39EggyToastAt 10:19 AM 4/10/2002 -0700, you wrote: >I always thought that is stood for For Unlawful C
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At 10:19 AM 4/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
quoted 1 line I always thought that is stood for For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.>I always thought that is stood for For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.
Actually, it stands for Freakishly Undulating Cyber-Kiddies. derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- with lather thingy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-04-10 07:50Aaron Trummyep - not total crap ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blake Irvin" <wordsounds@yahoo.co
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yep - not total crap ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blake Irvin" <wordsounds@yahoo.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [idm] OT f.u.c.k. trivia
quoted 2 lines TECHNICALLY, i think, the root of the word is from Old German, meaning> TECHNICALLY, i think, the root of the word is from Old German, meaning > something like "to strike"--i'm remembering "fuken" or something like
that.
quoted 16 lines however, your story is much more entertaining.> > however, your story is much more entertaining. > > > blake/ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoffrey Richards" <harlequin_9@hotmail.com> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:45 AM > Subject: [idm] OT f.u.c.k. trivia > > > > > > Another thing I learned (tonight at work) that I thought was
interesteng,
quoted 6 lines and wanted to share. The root of the word fuck.> > and wanted to share. The root of the word fuck. > > > > Appearantly the word came from signs that were given to people of > > England to hang on their doors (either in the dark or middle ages I'd > guess) > > that granted permission to copulate, as the only ones allowed at the
time
quoted 5 lines were royals.> > were royals. > > > > Fornification Under Command of the King > > > > Well, 'command' might not have been the right word, but you get the
idea.
quoted 23 lines cheers,> > > > cheers, > > geoff > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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