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[idm] Re: Fuck the R.I.A.A, Save Internet Radio

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2002-04-01 17:56Ethan Clauset [idm] Re: Fuck the R.I.A.A, Save Internet Radio
2002-04-03 17:09JeffU [idm] re: Fuck the R.I.A.A, Save Internet Radio
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2002-04-01 17:56Ethan Clausetactually I posted a bunch of information about it a month ago. the rate is $0.0014 per son
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[idm] Re: Fuck the R.I.A.A, Save Internet Radio
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actually I posted a bunch of information about it a month ago. the rate is $0.0014 per song per listener for stations doing only webcasts; for non-comm stations sending their off-air signal over the web the rate is $0.0002 cents/song/listener - not entirely unreasonable as long as you don't average more than, say, 20 listeners at a time (24 hrs/day). the real threat that CARP presents is to internet-only broadcasters who have to pay the top rate and a minimum of $500/year. this isn't "new legislation" by the way; the DMCA was passed in 1996. the reporting requirements are actually much more obnoxious than the proposed rates - webcasters would have to provide an impossible amount of information about each song and listener. http://www.ruf.rice.edu/%7Ewillr/cb/sos/ http://www.saveinternetradio.org/
quoted 8 lines I'm a little surprised this hasn't come up on the list yet, but very> I'm a little surprised this hasn't come up on the list yet, but very > recently new legislation was passed that will effectively KILL internet > radio. No, I'm not exagerating. The Copyright Arbitration Royalty > Panel that was created after the Digital Millenium Copyright Act > recently decided that for non-commercial radio stations doing webcasts, > a $.02 royalty per song per listener needs to be paid. Additionally, > these royalties need to be paid retroactively all the way back to > 1998. Do the math. Internet Radio will die.
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2002-04-03 17:09JeffUYeah the very concept is COMPLETELY bogus. As an idie musician I totally rely on webcasts
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[idm] re: Fuck the R.I.A.A, Save Internet Radio
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Yeah the very concept is COMPLETELY bogus. As an idie musician I totally rely on webcasts for exposure, and WHO outside the 'pop'/'mtv'/'big name country' scene benefits? Hell, Id love to know exactly HOW MANY ARTISTS benefit?! I CAN totally understand the concept of bandwidth/ fidelity limitations. But realoy nuthin more. As a Canadian though, my question is this... How will these actions affect internet radio in greater N.America or indeed worldwide? ---Original Message----- From: "Ethan Clauset" <eclauset@webslingerZ.com> To: "idm@hyperreal.org" <idm@hyperreal.org> Cc: "adm226@nyu.edu" <adm226@nyu.edu> Bcc: Subject: [idm] Re: Fuck the R.I.A.A, Save Internet Radio Type: IPM.Note Date: Monday, April 01, 2002 12:56 PM actually I posted a bunch of information about it a month ago. the rate is $0.0014 per song per listener for stations doing only webcasts; for non-comm stations sending their off-air signal over the web the rate is $0.0002 cents/song/listener - not entirely unreasonable as long as you don't average more than, say, 20 listeners at a time (24 hrs/day). the real threat that CARP presents is to internet-only broadcasters who have to pay the top rate and a minimum of $500/year. this isn't "new legislation" by the way; the DMCA was passed in 1996. the reporting requirements are actually much more obnoxious than the proposed rates - webcasters would have to provide an impossible amount of information about each song and listener. http://www.ruf.rice.edu/%7Ewillr/cb/sos/ http://www.saveinternetradio.org/
quoted 8 lines I'm a little surprised this hasn't come up on the list yet, but very> I'm a little surprised this hasn't come up on the list yet, but very > recently new legislation was passed that will effectively KILL internet > radio. No, I'm not exagerating. The Copyright Arbitration Royalty > Panel that was created after the Digital Millenium Copyright Act > recently decided that for non-commercial radio stations doing webcasts, > a $.02 royalty per song per listener needs to be paid. Additionally, > these royalties need to be paid retroactively all the way back to > 1998. Do the math. Internet Radio will die.
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