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2002-02-26 20:44Amanda Nelson [idm] "gay idm"
├─ 2002-02-26 21:20Adam Piontek Re: [idm] "gay idm"
│ └─ 2002-02-26 21:11mr. bozac [idm] Hair IDM [was-> Re: [idm] "gay idm"]
└─ 2002-02-27 06:01Lander Re: [idm] "gay idm"
2002-02-27 11:37Glenn McClements Re: [idm] "gay idm"
└─ 2002-02-27 14:39Greg Smith Re: [idm] "gay idm"
└─ 2002-02-27 14:57Gabriel J. Weinstock Re: [idm] "gay idm"
2002-02-27 11:48Bill Burroughs Re: [idm] "gay idm"
├─ 2002-02-27 19:25EggyToast Re: [idm] "gay idm"
│ ├─ 2002-02-27 20:56Matt Jarsky RE: [idm] "gay idm"
│ │ └─ 2002-02-28 00:21EggyToast RE: [idm] "gay idm"
│ └─ 2002-02-28 00:55Lander Re: [idm] "gay idm"
└─ 2002-02-27 20:15ugly and mean Re: [idm] "gay idm"
2002-02-27 12:00Glenn McClements [idm] Musical duos (was something stupid)
└─ 2002-02-28 02:32Mark Stevens Re: [idm] Musical duos (was something stupid)
2002-02-27 13:11Bill Burroughs Re: [idm] Musical duos (was something stupid)
2002-02-27 17:59acre Re: [idm] Musical duos (was something stupid)
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2002-02-26 20:44Amanda NelsonCome on, the sexuality of the artists is really not pertinent to their music, I cannot bel
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Come on, the sexuality of the artists is really not pertinent to their music, I cannot believe you are having this discussion. It is offensive that people have to justify a female's talent by attaching her to a talented male (i.e. Mira Calix and member or Autechre), or by working out one's anxiety of female's joining the male world of IDM by fantasizing about female artist's sexual relations with one another. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-26 21:20Adam Piontek--- Amanda Nelson <amandaannnelson@hotmail.com> wrote: > Come on, the sexuality of the art
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--- Amanda Nelson <amandaannnelson@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 4 lines Come on, the sexuality of the artists is really not> Come on, the sexuality of the artists is really not > pertinent to their > music, I cannot believe you are having this > discussion.
Who is having this discussion seriously?
quoted 4 lines It is offensive> It is offensive > that people have to justify a female's talent by > attaching her to a talented > male (i.e. Mira Calix and member or Autechre), or by
Who did this?
quoted 4 lines working out one's> working out one's > anxiety of female's joining the male world of IDM by > fantasizing about > female artist's sexual relations with one another.
No one did this, either. Although, personally, I'd pay to see Bjork & Andrea Parker go at it. And if it weren't for their beards, I'd pay to see the BoC boys go at it, too. I'd pay even more to see AFX & []pusher go at it, if they'd get haircuts and shaves as well. I'm not into that "natural" look :D ===== .Adam http://www.damek.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-26 21:11mr. bozacOk - why is it that everyone in IDM (save Andrea Parker, rrrow!) has yucky hair? And beard
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Ok - why is it that everyone in IDM (save Andrea Parker, rrrow!) has yucky hair? And beards. Or no hair and smokes? Except if they're Matmos, who have good hair-product hair? I guess it's the gayness (see ridiculously long thread "gay idm") ? At least trim the damn beard and put on a shirt with a collar or something ... I mean Squarepusher could be a superstar if he'd get rid of the software engineer beard ... guh. :) mr. blackwell er, bozac On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Adam Piontek wrote:
quoted 46 lines --- Amanda Nelson <amandaannnelson@hotmail.com> wrote:> --- Amanda Nelson <amandaannnelson@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Come on, the sexuality of the artists is really not > > pertinent to their > > music, I cannot believe you are having this > > discussion. > > Who is having this discussion seriously? > > > It is offensive > > that people have to justify a female's talent by > > attaching her to a talented > > male (i.e. Mira Calix and member or Autechre), or by > > Who did this? > > > working out one's > > anxiety of female's joining the male world of IDM by > > fantasizing about > > female artist's sexual relations with one another. > > No one did this, either. > > Although, personally, I'd pay to see Bjork & Andrea > Parker go at it. And if it weren't for their beards, > I'd pay to see the BoC boys go at it, too. > > I'd pay even more to see AFX & []pusher go at it, if > they'd get haircuts and shaves as well. I'm not into > that "natural" look :D > > > > ===== > .Adam > http://www.damek.org/ > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-02-27 06:01Lander-- Amanda Nelson <amandaannnelson@hotmail.com> wrote: > Come on, the sexuality of the arti
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-- Amanda Nelson <amandaannnelson@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 8 lines Come on, the sexuality of the artists is really not pertinent to their> Come on, the sexuality of the artists is really not pertinent to their > music, I cannot believe you are having this discussion. It is offensive > > that people have to justify a female's talent by attaching her to a > talented > male (i.e. Mira Calix and member or Autechre), or by working out one's > anxiety of female's joining the male world of IDM by fantasizing about > female artist's sexual relations with one another.
You are totally right, but in context you are also overreacting... this pathetic thread-- to which you are now contributing, I must point out-- started out with someone fantasizing about male artists' sexual relations with one another. They were talking about "gay," and someone mentioned some female artists, and since the subject of the thread was "gay," it was a logical progression to speculate about them gettin' it on. Just felt some inexplicable urge to clear that up. Z __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-27 11:37Glenn McClements> It is offensive that people have to justify a female's talent by > attaching her to a ta
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quoted 2 lines It is offensive that people have to justify a female's talent by> It is offensive that people have to justify a female's talent by > attaching her to a talented male (i.e. Mira Calix and member or Autechre)
Actually they are attached, as in Chantal is married to Sean Booth. Plus I think Sean produced her first album. Glenn --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-27 14:39Greg Smithon 2/27/02 3:37 AM, Glenn McClements at glenn.mcclements@openwave.com scrawled: >> It is o
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on 2/27/02 3:37 AM, Glenn McClements at glenn.mcclements@openwave.com scrawled:
quoted 6 lines It is offensive that people have to justify a female's talent by>> It is offensive that people have to justify a female's talent by >> attaching her to a talented male (i.e. Mira Calix and member or Autechre) > > Actually they are attached, as in Chantal is married to Sean Booth. Plus > I think Sean produced her first album. >
WHERE DID THEY GO ON THEIR HONEYMOON? I NEED TO KNOW AS IT WILL HELP ME BETTER UNDERSTAND THEIR RESPECTIVE MUSICS BETTER. ~g --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-27 14:57Gabriel J. Weinstock> scrawled: > >> It is offensive that people have to justify a female's talent by > >> att
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quoted 12 lines scrawled:> scrawled: > >> It is offensive that people have to justify a female's talent by > >> attaching her to a talented male (i.e. Mira Calix and member or > >> Autechre) > > > > Actually they are attached, as in Chantal is married to Sean Booth. Plus > > I think Sean produced her first album. > > WHERE DID THEY GO ON THEIR HONEYMOON? I NEED TO KNOW AS IT WILL HELP ME > BETTER UNDERSTAND THEIR RESPECTIVE MUSICS BETTER. > > ~g
this has to be the best post I've read in a few months, at least. g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-27 11:48Bill BurroughsAnyway, all it is showing is that they both have good taste... Also, not wanting to start
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Anyway, all it is showing is that they both have good taste... Also, not wanting to start more arguments, but, in a faceless world like electronica/idm, one would expect there to be as many female artists as there are male...obviously, more men are into electronica/idm, than women...then again, I'm sure the opposite could be said for many other genres of music...I don't see the problem...men are different to women...IN GENERAL: they like different things...they think differently...they have different talents... Actually, come to think of it...I would love to hear what sort of music Mira and Sean listen to at home, by themselves...I bet there wouldn't be a constant need to compromise between the musical styles of two partners... :) RoNAn P.S. Women and Men are not equal! Women are better... <-------------> Everything is True, Nothing is Permissible ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn McClements" <glenn.mcclements@openwave.com> Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [idm] "gay idm"
quoted 2 lines It is offensive that people have to justify a female's talent by> > It is offensive that people have to justify a female's talent by > > attaching her to a talented male (i.e. Mira Calix and member or
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quoted 17 lines Actually they are attached, as in Chantal is married to Sean Booth. Plus> > Actually they are attached, as in Chantal is married to Sean Booth. Plus > I think Sean produced her first album. > > > Glenn > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-02-27 19:25EggyToastAt 11:48 AM 2/27/2002 +0000, you wrote: >Anyway, all it is showing is that they both have
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At 11:48 AM 2/27/2002 +0000, you wrote:
quoted 9 lines Anyway, all it is showing is that they both have good taste...>Anyway, all it is showing is that they both have good taste... > >Also, not wanting to start more arguments, but, in a faceless world like >electronica/idm, one would expect there to be as many female artists as >there are male...obviously, more men are into electronica/idm, than >women...then again, I'm sure the opposite could be said for many other >genres of music...I don't see the problem...men are different to women...IN >GENERAL: they like different things...they think differently...they have >different talents...
Well, since the only way women are able to be successful with anything is if they use their bodies in order to influence men, I can see why a faceless genre like "IDM" draws few female producers. It's hard to use your only advantage -- sex -- when personal interaction and photographs are not a prevalent part of the field. derek the feminist --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-27 20:56Matt JarskySatire or not, you hold the list hostage with your flame-bait. One of the qualities of sat
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Satire or not, you hold the list hostage with your flame-bait. One of the qualities of satire is that it is extreme. Credible on some level, yes, but extreme and perhaps incredible on others. Swift's "A Modest Proposal" proposed a reasonable argument for eating the poor. His tone was matter of fact and many people were outraged. However the fact that his solution to the problem of the poor should offend any human is the clue that the whole thing is a sham, a satire. Your views, unfortunately, are not that extreme. The view you expressed is probably in line with the beliefs of a good number of folks. How are we to know what your angle is? Of course people who know you will get the joke, but most of don't know you. So people must be forgiven for thinking your lame ass joke is the real deal. Peace, Matt
quoted 34 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: EggyToast [mailto:eggy@eggytoast.com] > Sent: February 27, 2002 3:26 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] "gay idm" > > > At 11:48 AM 2/27/2002 +0000, you wrote: > >Anyway, all it is showing is that they both have good taste... > > > >Also, not wanting to start more arguments, but, in a faceless world like > >electronica/idm, one would expect there to be as many female artists as > >there are male...obviously, more men are into electronica/idm, than > >women...then again, I'm sure the opposite could be said for many other > >genres of music...I don't see the problem...men are different to > women...IN > >GENERAL: they like different things...they think differently...they have > >different talents... > > Well, since the only way women are able to be successful with anything is > if they use their bodies in order to influence men, I can see why a > faceless genre like "IDM" draws few female producers. It's hard to use > your only advantage -- sex -- when personal interaction and > photographs are > not a prevalent part of the field. > > derek the feminist > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-02-28 00:21EggyToastAt 04:56 PM 2/27/2002 -0400, Matt Jarsky wrote: >Satire or not, you hold the list hostage
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At 04:56 PM 2/27/2002 -0400, Matt Jarsky wrote:
quoted 12 lines Satire or not, you hold the list hostage with your flame-bait.>Satire or not, you hold the list hostage with your flame-bait. > >One of the qualities of satire is that it is extreme. Credible on some >level, yes, but extreme and perhaps incredible on others. Swift's "A Modest >Proposal" proposed a reasonable argument for eating the poor. His tone was >matter of fact and many people were outraged. However the fact that his >solution to the problem of the poor should offend any human is the clue that >the whole thing is a sham, a satire. Your views, unfortunately, are not that >extreme. The view you expressed is probably in line with the beliefs of a >good number of folks. How are we to know what your angle is? Of course >people who know you will get the joke, but most of don't know you. So people >must be forgiven for thinking your lame ass joke is the real deal.
True; the problem with most satire is that there are nearly always people who believe it to be fact. Even in your example of poor people, although the majority would immediately become outraged, there are numerous "upper class" who believe all poor people should either be killed off, or do housework for them. One of the alternative purposes of satire, besides humor, is to motivate action, or at least persuade people to consider the situation. It's been a long-standing "joke" on the IDM list where the only reason females become interested in IDM is because a more music-savvy boyfriend turned them on to it. It's also a common misconception among male chauvinists and other breeds of sexist "pigdogs" that women only serve one purpose -- to make babies and look good. Hopefully this is not popular opinion on this list :D Rather, if anything, a post such as mine should encourage people to believe "hey, women can do anything they wish; they aren't limited by gender or mental prowess or anything." I'm sure any "flames" I would receive would recant something to that effect, putting more people in agreement over the situation. Which was my purpose all along (and, to people such as myself, it is the utmost in extreme social commentary. If you don't think it's extreme, perhaps you yourself should reconsider your stance on gender roles in society). derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- with lather thingy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-28 00:55Lander--- EggyToast <eggy@eggytoast.com> wrote: > At 11:48 AM 2/27/2002 +0000, you wrote: > >Any
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--- EggyToast <eggy@eggytoast.com> wrote:
quoted 23 lines At 11:48 AM 2/27/2002 +0000, you wrote:> At 11:48 AM 2/27/2002 +0000, you wrote: > >Anyway, all it is showing is that they both have good taste... > > > >Also, not wanting to start more arguments, but, in a faceless world > like > >electronica/idm, one would expect there to be as many female artists as > >there are male...obviously, more men are into electronica/idm, than > >women...then again, I'm sure the opposite could be said for many other > >genres of music...I don't see the problem...men are different to > women...IN > >GENERAL: they like different things...they think differently...they > have > >different talents... > > Well, since the only way women are able to be successful with anything > is > if they use their bodies in order to influence men, I can see why a > faceless genre like "IDM" draws few female producers. It's hard to use > your only advantage -- sex -- when personal interaction and photographs > are > not a prevalent part of the field. > > derek the feminist
Damn, you should change it to "buttery toast," cause you are SMOOOOOOTH. Teach me, oh wise[ass] one. Z __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-27 20:15ugly and mean--- Bill Burroughs <djmatus23@yahoo.com> wrote: > Anyway, all it is showing is that they b
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--- Bill Burroughs <djmatus23@yahoo.com> wrote:
quoted 10 lines Anyway, all it is showing is that they both have good taste...> Anyway, all it is showing is that they both have good taste... > > Also, not wanting to start more arguments, but, in a faceless world like > electronica/idm, one would expect there to be as many female artists as > there are male...obviously, more men are into electronica/idm, than > women...then again, I'm sure the opposite could be said for many other > genres of music...I don't see the problem...men are different to > women...IN > GENERAL: they like different things...they think differently...they have > different talents...
Wow, never seen this stupid topic on this list before. Can't we go back to talking about whether Bogdan is gay? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-27 12:00Glenn McClements>Actually, come to think of it...I would love to hear what sort of music Mira >and Sean li
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quoted 4 lines Actually, come to think of it...I would love to hear what sort of music Mira>Actually, come to think of it...I would love to hear what sort of music Mira >and Sean listen to at home, by themselves...I bet there wouldn't be a >constant need to compromise between the musical styles of two partners... >
I've always wondered how Autechre actually work together, they must really have to be on the same wavelength. I really don't know how you could describe something that's that abstract that's in your head to someone else. In the olden days it was easier coz it was like: Paul: "Ok I'll do the guitar part." Ringo: "Ok I'll do the bloody drums again." which was much simpler than: Sean: "Ok I'll do the crunchy wusk-wusk-greagghkuurg-gurrgle-guggle part." Rob: "Ok, I'll write a program that randomly generates the plip-click-clickity-plip-plip part." Any people who work in pairs on the list care to shed any light on how they go about composing? Glenn --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-28 02:32Mark StevensHere's a reply to the message "[idm] Musical duos (was something stupid)" written on Wed,
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Here's a reply to the message "[idm] Musical duos (was something stupid)" written on Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:00:55 +0000:
quoted 2 lines Any people who work in pairs on the list care to shed any light on how>Any people who work in pairs on the list care to shed any light on how >they go about composing?
Used to produce tonnes of stuff with a mate from college back in the early/mid-1990s. Our typical work method involved us going away on our own and developing our own tracks in rough demo form. We'd then get together and go through each other's tracks, commenting, "That's good!" or "That's shit!" We'd then end up with a bunch of tracks we both liked and would then focus on these. Fortunately we had a pretty much identical studio setup (same synths, Akai samplers, Cubase, etc), so sharing data was a piece of piss. We'd typically spend a whole day on one particular track. We'd get the patches/samples/files all loaded up and one of us would just sit in front of the gear and tweak the track in any way we saw fit. The other person would be sitting nearby, either listening, having a smoke or cup of tea, would be listening to something else on headphones, would bugger off down the shops, etc. Once the person in front of the gear was bored, or the other person had a sudden flash of inspiration, the other would take over and rearrange stuff, add new bits, delete old bits, etc. We'd just carry on this fashion until we'd eventually find the best mix emerging that we'd both agree on. We'd then save everything off, knock off some mixdowns to DAT and cassette, pack up and go home. Whilst we shared a very similar taste in music, our own compositions, whilst both in the "ambient dance" mould, were wildly different. We both had our own unique styles and particular quirks -- he'd be great at structuring, balancing the mix and finding bizarre ethnical samples, I'd be good at finding obscure breakbeats and creating melodies and riffs. It all came together quite nicely. We haven't collaborated much for quite some time, but we're planning on getting back together to work on some new projects soon. Should be interesting to see how our working methodology changes now that the technology involved is radically different. (Ie, all laptop/PC and software-based.) -- Mark Stevens http://www.insertdisc.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-27 13:11Bill BurroughsSet fire to your colleague, and sample his squeels... :P RoNAn <-------------> Everything
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Re: [idm] Musical duos (was something stupid)
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Set fire to your colleague, and sample his squeels... :P RoNAn <-------------> Everything is True, Nothing is Permissible ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn McClements" <glenn.mcclements@openwave.com> Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:00 PM Subject: [idm] Musical duos (was something stupid)
quoted 2 lines Actually, come to think of it...I would love to hear what sort of music> > >Actually, come to think of it...I would love to hear what sort of music
Mira
quoted 30 lines and Sean listen to at home, by themselves...I bet there wouldn't be a> >and Sean listen to at home, by themselves...I bet there wouldn't be a > >constant need to compromise between the musical styles of two partners... > > > I've always wondered how Autechre actually work together, they must > really have to be on the same wavelength. I really don't know how you > could describe something that's that abstract that's in your head to > someone else. In the olden days it was easier coz it was like: > Paul: "Ok I'll do the guitar part." > Ringo: "Ok I'll do the bloody drums again." > > which was much simpler than: > Sean: "Ok I'll do the crunchy wusk-wusk-greagghkuurg-gurrgle-guggle part." > Rob: "Ok, I'll write a program that randomly generates the > plip-click-clickity-plip-plip part." > > Any people who work in pairs on the list care to shed any light on how > they go about composing? > > Glenn > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-02-27 17:59acreeither one starts a track. mail it to the other one when you've done some of it. they add
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Re: [idm] Musical duos (was something stupid)
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either one starts a track. mail it to the other one when you've done some of it. they add what they feel like and send it back. you're done when you both like it a lot or can't think of anything else to add. jon tenandtracer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn McClements" <glenn.mcclements@openwave.com> Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:00 AM Subject: [idm] Musical duos (was something stupid)
quoted 2 lines Actually, come to think of it...I would love to hear what sort of music> > >Actually, come to think of it...I would love to hear what sort of music
Mira
quoted 31 lines and Sean listen to at home, by themselves...I bet there wouldn't be a> >and Sean listen to at home, by themselves...I bet there wouldn't be a > >constant need to compromise between the musical styles of two partners... > > > I've always wondered how Autechre actually work together, they must > really have to be on the same wavelength. I really don't know how you > could describe something that's that abstract that's in your head to > someone else. In the olden days it was easier coz it was like: > Paul: "Ok I'll do the guitar part." > Ringo: "Ok I'll do the bloody drums again." > > which was much simpler than: > Sean: "Ok I'll do the crunchy wusk-wusk-greagghkuurg-gurrgle-guggle part." > Rob: "Ok, I'll write a program that randomly generates the > plip-click-clickity-plip-plip part." > > Any people who work in pairs on the list care to shed any light on how > they go about composing? > > Glenn > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-02-28 00:01LOWONICE13@aol.comIn a message dated 2/27/02 6:01:13 AM Central Standard Time, glenn.mcclements@openwave.com
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Re: [idm] Musical duos (was something stupid)
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In a message dated 2/27/02 6:01:13 AM Central Standard Time, glenn.mcclements@openwave.com writes: << Paul: "Ok I'll do the guitar part." Ringo: "Ok I'll do the bloody drums again." which was much simpler than: Sean: "Ok I'll do the crunchy wusk-wusk-greagghkuurg-gurrgle-guggle part." Rob: "Ok, I'll write a program that randomly generates the plip-click-clickity-plip-plip part." >> HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA CLASSIC! --------------------------------- Raoul's Left Ear http://www.geocities.com/raoulsleftear/Intro.html ---------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org