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2002-02-20 08:41Jonathan Hierholzer [idm] Happy Geogaddi Day!
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2002-02-20 08:41Jonathan HierholzerI'm sure it's on everyone else's mind, I know it's on mine. I got my copy of Geogaddi in t
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I'm sure it's on everyone else's mind, I know it's on mine. I got my copy of Geogaddi in the mail today and wanted to know everyone's opinions (initial, of course). Right off the bat, I was personally underwhelmed, but the second time through hit me as brilliant.. I can't make up my mind yet.. it's gonna take me quite a while probably. Jonathan p.s. at the risk of sounding elitist: WHY ON EARTH IS THE AMAZON SALES RANK SO HIGH?!?!? I'm so depressed, it's at 129!! good grief you'd think it was O-town! crap... Still good stuff though (BoC that is).
2002-02-20 06:43EggyToastAt 12:41 AM 2/20/2002 -0800, you wrote: >I'm sure it's on everyone else's mind, I know it'
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At 12:41 AM 2/20/2002 -0800, you wrote:
quoted 5 lines I'm sure it's on everyone else's mind, I know it's on mine. I got my c>I'm sure it's on everyone else's mind, I know it's on mine. I got my copy >of Geogaddi in the mail today and wanted to know everyone's opinions >(initial, of course). Right off the bat, I was personally underwhelmed, >but the second time through hit me as brilliant.. I can't make up my mind >yet.. it's gonna take me quite a while probably.
Isn't this the reason people like boards of canada? I know those were my impressions of "music has the right to children."
quoted 3 lines p.s. at the risk of sounding elitist: WHY ON EARTH IS THE AMAZON SALES>p.s. at the risk of sounding elitist: WHY ON EARTH IS THE AMAZON SALES >RANK SO HIGH?!?!? I'm so depressed, it's at 129!! good grief you'd think >it was O-town! crap... Still good stuff though (BoC that is).
Well a dynamic sales ranking coupled with an album that is not sold in most stores equals a high ranking for an online retailer. Not everyone orders through PJ or direct from Warp. derek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-20 07:22EggyToast>>p.s. at the risk of sounding elitist: WHY ON EARTH IS THE AMAZON SALES >>RANK SO HIGH?!?
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quoted 7 lines p.s. at the risk of sounding elitist: WHY ON EARTH IS THE AMAZON SALES>>p.s. at the risk of sounding elitist: WHY ON EARTH IS THE AMAZON SALES >>RANK SO HIGH?!?!? I'm so depressed, it's at 129!! good grief you'd >>think it was O-town! crap... Still good stuff though (BoC that is). > >Well a dynamic sales ranking coupled with an album that is not sold in >most stores equals a high ranking for an online retailer. Not everyone >orders through PJ or direct from Warp.
I'm going to reneg a little on my cynicism here to comment: why on earth are you depressed? that's great! I'd rather have the whole world buying Boards of Canada! And to return to my cynicism, you believe sales ratings have much to do with the quality of music? A lot of poorly rated music is poorly rated for a reason ;D derek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-20 08:02Kevin MurphyOn Wed, 2002-02-20 at 00:41, Jonathan Hierholzer wrote: > I got my copy of Geogaddi in the
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On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 00:41, Jonathan Hierholzer wrote:
quoted 5 lines I got my copy of Geogaddi in the mail today and wanted to know> I got my copy of Geogaddi in the mail today and wanted to know > everyone's opinions (initial, of course). Right off the bat, I was > personally underwhelmed, but the second time through hit me as > brilliant.. I can't make up my mind yet.. it's gonna take me quite a > while probably.
My experience was very similar. Much like the first time I listened to "Music Has A Right...", the first time through I kind of let it wash over me, and it didn't make a very strong impression. Then I put the headphones on and gave it a good listen. To paraphrase Beetlejuice, I've had it on repeat for about five hours now AND IT JUST KEEPS GETTIN' BETTER EVERY SINGLE TIME I HEAR IT! A few more first impressions: * A lot of the childish/nostalgic noises that gave "Music Has.." its sense of naivite seem to be twisted into something more anxious...more like the ghosts of children than the sounds of a schoolyard. * Is the manipulated vocal of the hypnotherapist on "The Devil Is In The Details" a tweak at every music reviewer who referred to BOC as "hypnotic", or is it just my overactive imagination? * "Julie and Candy" is *pretty*. :) * I'm really glad I didn't listen to bootlegs before I got the CD...It was kind of a letdown when I got the last Plaid album and realized that I'd already heard 90% of the tracks as mp3 boots. Hooray for delayed gratification. * "Dandelion" and "Energy Warning" bug me a bit insofar as the vocal samples are really obvious and the tracks themselves don't really go anywhere. But a minor nit overall. * Has anyone figured out what the heck the vocorded voice on "1969" is singing (not the "1969 in the sunshine" portion...)? -- Kevin Murphy "We buy junk and sell antiques." - sign on an antique store --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-20 08:30Lander> p.s. at the risk of sounding elitist: WHY ON EARTH IS THE AMAZON SALES > RANK SO HIGH?!?
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quoted 4 lines p.s. at the risk of sounding elitist: WHY ON EARTH IS THE AMAZON SALES> p.s. at the risk of sounding elitist: WHY ON EARTH IS THE AMAZON SALES > RANK SO HIGH?!?!? I'm so depressed, it's at 129!! good grief you'd > think it was O-town! crap... Still good stuff though (BoC that is). >
Oh PLEASE. Tell me you're kidding. Do people actually, really, truly, sarcasm- and facetiousness-free, think this way? Does this attitude honestly make sense to you? You seem to like BoC, please (seriously) explain to me why it's depressing to see them get compensated for their efforts. It's not just you-- assuming it wasn't a joke-- and as a musician who would like to someday be able to rely on music as my sole source of income this concerns me deeply, and it's a sentiment I think it would be useful to comprehend. I'm not trying to make a point or anything, I genuinely want to know what led you to post the above comment. Ah, I'm just bitter I suppose, and I'm up past my bedtime. Sorry. Z __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-20 10:57Michael UptonAt 12:41 AM 2/20/02 -0800, Jonathan Hierholzer wrote: >p.s. at the risk of sounding elitis
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At 12:41 AM 2/20/02 -0800, Jonathan Hierholzer wrote:
quoted 3 lines p.s. at the risk of sounding elitist: WHY ON EARTH IS THE AMAZON SALES>p.s. at the risk of sounding elitist: WHY ON EARTH IS THE AMAZON SALES >RANK SO HIGH?!?!? I'm so depressed, it's at 129!! good grief you'd think >it was O-town! crap... Still good stuff though (BoC that is).
I reckon BoC are very friendly on the ears. There's certainly nothing difficult (sounding) or confusing about what they do. I'd hazard a guess that anyone who's willing to listen to recent Moby stuff or even (dare I say it) Enigma or Deep Forest would happily get into (and buy) Boards of Canada. Michael - http://www.ampcast.com/jetjaguar --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-20 23:40Jamie Johnson> * Has anyone figured out what the heck the vocorded voice on > "1969" is singing (not th
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quoted 2 lines * Has anyone figured out what the heck the vocorded voice on> * Has anyone figured out what the heck the vocorded voice on > "1969" is singing (not the "1969 in the sunshine" portion...)?
"I was not a follower of - hserok divad - shes a devoted branch davidian" Notes: ------- -The words "david koresh" are reversed in the vocal sample; listen to the track in reverse to hear them. -The sample comes from the same interview heard in the background of the boc Poppy Seed remix. It was an interview with Amo Bishop Roden, a women who moved into the former branch davidian location. Interestingly, this interview is also the source for "Come out and live in a religious community in a beautiful place out in the country." Wow, talk about milking a sample. -The "She's a devoted branch davidian" part is apparently said by the interviewer. Later, Jamie --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-21 17:29Armchair CharlieFirst off, love the artwork. I never knew there were such possibilities with a simple terr
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First off, love the artwork. I never knew there were such possibilities with a simple terrazo effect. I'd love to see these guys getting heavy into film. As for the moment of truth, it did me well. Upon first listen (a casual one), it sounded like a slightly updated Music Has the Right. But this is definitely the type of album that grows on you very fast. It's been in my stereo ever since it left the digipak, and that's a very rare situation for me. You'll need headphones. On the surface, the tracks seem very hazy and lo-fi, but when you break out the headset, you'll notice more things and come to more realizations. On "Music Is Math" (or was it "Gyroscope?"), you'll notice a very peculiar vocal acting as a watermark, but you can't make it out. Later in the track, the vocal reveals itself more understandably. And then you see. BoC certainly capture a conceptual vibe that is untouchable to anyone else on Warp, or anyone else in electronic music for that matter. In fact, "The Devil Is in the Details" is one of the best tracks Warp has ever released. Now, just how do you pronounce "Geogaddi?" Call it a silly, recurring question on this list, but I host a radio show, and I'd rather not resort to, "That was Boards of Canada, off the new Giddle-diddy LP." I'm sure BoC haven't assigned a formal pronunciation to it, but I'm sure some ways are more proper than others. How about Geo - Gad(not Jad) - Die ? Does that work for anyone? -char _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-21 17:41No one in particularOn Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Armchair Charlie wrote: > How about Geo - Gad(not Jad) - Die ? I've b
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quoted 1 line How about Geo - Gad(not Jad) - Die ?> How about Geo - Gad(not Jad) - Die ?
I've been saying 'Dee' instead of 'Die'. I think the two d's preceding the i implies that. To my brain, at least. I couldn't find any words ending in 'ddi', but: Olivetti Patti Mississippi counter-examples: rabbi So who knows. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-21 17:42Aaron D MeyersI don't know if there is a right answer, but I've been saying it "jeogoddee". And yea... I
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I don't know if there is a right answer, but I've been saying it "jeogoddee". And yea... I really like it. Upon first listen I was let down but I'm starting to like it maybe more than music has the right. the sound is definitely evolved. its subtle, but they have definitely made a stylistic jump from the last LP. -Aaron
quoted 24 lines Now, just how do you pronounce "Geogaddi?" Call it a silly,> Now, just how do you pronounce "Geogaddi?" Call it a silly, > recurring > question on this list, but I host a radio show, and I'd rather not > resort > to, "That was Boards of Canada, off the new Giddle-diddy LP." I'm > sure BoC > haven't assigned a formal pronunciation to it, but I'm sure some > ways are > more proper than others. How about Geo - Gad(not Jad) - Die ? > Does that > work for anyone? > > -char > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-02-21 18:06Eggy ToastWell, if you break it down, you get geo-gad-di so geo is pronounced like, uhh, "geo", and
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Well, if you break it down, you get geo-gad-di so geo is pronounced like, uhh, "geo", and "gad" is like, "gahd," and, uhh, the "di" is like "dee" unless you're speaking yiddish or abbreviating "diane" (in which case you can see why it's pronounced like "die"). so that makes it, uhh, geo gahd dee but you could say "the new boards of canada lp titled diddlydaddley" and I'm sure everyone would know what you mean. derek ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Aaron D Meyers <adm226@nyu.edu> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:42:26 -0500
quoted 39 lines I don't know if there is a right answer, but I've been saying>I don't know if there is a right answer, but I've been saying >it "jeogoddee". And yea... I really like it. Upon first listen I was >let down but I'm starting to like it maybe more than music has the >right. the sound is definitely evolved. its subtle, but they have >definitely made a stylistic jump from the last LP. > >-Aaron > >> Now, just how do you pronounce "Geogaddi?" Call it a silly, >> recurring >> question on this list, but I host a radio show, and I'd rather not >> resort >> to, "That was Boards of Canada, off the new Giddle-diddy LP." I'm >> sure BoC >> haven't assigned a formal pronunciation to it, but I'm sure some >> ways are >> more proper than others. How about Geo - Gad(not Jad) - Die ? >> Does that >> work for anyone? >> >> -char >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-02-22 03:05Jonathan HierholzerThanks to everyone for their replies!!! I'll try to answer everything. Good to see that yo
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Thanks to everyone for their replies!!! I'll try to answer everything. Good to see that you and some others had similar experiences. I don't think I'll ever like it quite as much as MHTRTC but it's still growing on me! As far as nostalgia goes, that's one of the primary draws that BoC has on me. That, the complexity, the beauty, etc. I've noticed some people mentioning 'Julie and Candy' and 'the devil is in the details'. the former is quite good, but I especially like the latter. it's so eerie and hallucinatory.. it reminds me of level 3, the forest on MickeyMousecapade for the old Nintendo, if anyone recalls.. it doesn't have anything in common, just reminds me of that. I also agree that as a whole, it's just as emotional as the debut, but in a more anxious and sinister way.. very interesting juxtaposition. My favorite song so far, and a perfect example of what i was just talking about it 'sunshine recorder', track 6. It's so gorgeous that it nearly brings me to tears, but it also makes me uneasy and anxious. The eerie basslines, the reverbrant notes, and the little kid saying 'it's a beautiful place'.. I don't know it just hits me in some special way. I, like you, also came into the album totally cold.. I'd never heard any of it, cept the sample on the BoC website. So it was an interesting first listen. :-) I also wanted to respond to derek and Z's comments on my sophomoric comment on the high sales ranking and idm elitism. Here's the best answer I can come up with: I love IDM, pure and simple. But for me, and some of my friends with their own indiepopsnob sorta attitudes, it goes beyond the music itself and starts to become a sort of lifestyle. It sounds terrible.. but I like to think that since I discovered BoC on my own (as well as Aphex, Ae, etc)and started to become enveloped in their wonderful psychadelic but intelligent and nostalgic world, that I have some special connection to it. You know.. us IDM types 'get it'. We like to think that none of our classmates, teachers, etc 'get it', and if by chance they 'liked' it, it would be on some superficial level. As far as this specific example is concerned, I suppose that I don't want the sales rankings to go up because I picture a bunch of little junior high girls going and buying geogaddi because their indiesnob boyfriend played it for them and they thought 'the sounds were cool, kinda like that 'techno' stuff they hear by BT on the radio.' Either that or the old fogies who like the more easylistening type tracks and buy it thinking it's more adult alternative to listen to on an airplane.. like late era tangerine dream. It may be a little selfish.. but it's also the fact that (as bad as it sounds, I'm really not trying to be mean) I don't want Boards of canada's hard work to be overexposed to people who aren't going to appreciate it for all that it is. Like throwing pearls before swine, or whatever the expression is. (no, I'm not saying the others are swine, i'm simply using the example). As far as everyone listening to BoC, and them getting repaid for their hard work, BoC themselves once said in an interview that the reason they made their first releases in such a limited quantity is because they didn't care who got them as long as their family and friends heard it. So i guess in conclusion, yes..it's partially selfish motives.. the need to be special and seen as elitist.. but also because I genuinely don't want them to be popularized and misinterpreted on a large level. I think it was an xlr8r review that said something along the lines that BoC's sound is so personal that you don't want to share it with anybody. i think, as far as BoC goes, that this is the heart of the matter. hope that helped, and I'd love to discuss it further if you want. thanks for listening! Jonathan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Murphy" <kevin@eorbit.net> To: "Jonathan Hierholzer" <ilovekid606@hotmail.com> Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [idm] Happy Geogaddi Day!
quoted 42 lines On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 00:41, Jonathan Hierholzer wrote:> On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 00:41, Jonathan Hierholzer wrote: > > I got my copy of Geogaddi in the mail today and wanted to know > > everyone's opinions (initial, of course). Right off the bat, I was > > personally underwhelmed, but the second time through hit me as > > brilliant.. I can't make up my mind yet.. it's gonna take me quite a > > while probably. > > My experience was very similar. Much like the first time I listened to > "Music Has A Right...", the first time through I kind of let it wash > over me, and it didn't make a very strong impression. Then I put the > headphones on and gave it a good listen. > > To paraphrase Beetlejuice, I've had it on repeat for about five hours > now AND IT JUST KEEPS GETTIN' BETTER EVERY SINGLE TIME I HEAR IT! > > A few more first impressions: > > * A lot of the childish/nostalgic noises that gave "Music Has.." > its sense of naivite seem to be twisted into something more > anxious...more like the ghosts of children than the sounds of > a schoolyard. > * Is the manipulated vocal of the hypnotherapist on "The Devil > Is In The Details" a tweak at every music reviewer who > referred to BOC as "hypnotic", or is it just my overactive > imagination? > * "Julie and Candy" is *pretty*. :) > * I'm really glad I didn't listen to bootlegs before I got the > CD...It was kind of a letdown when I got the last Plaid album > and realized that I'd already heard 90% of the tracks as mp3 > boots. Hooray for delayed gratification. > * "Dandelion" and "Energy Warning" bug me a bit insofar as the > vocal samples are really obvious and the tracks themselves > don't really go anywhere. But a minor nit overall. > * Has anyone figured out what the heck the vocorded voice on > "1969" is singing (not the "1969 in the sunshine" portion...)? > > -- > Kevin Murphy > "We buy junk and sell antiques." > - sign on an antique store > >
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2002-02-22 01:45wownflutterOkay, this is one of the best honest defenses I have heard on this list for wanting to kee
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Okay, this is one of the best honest defenses I have heard on this list for wanting to keep the best in the "personal zone." Well done! & Thanks! --- Jonathan Hierholzer <ilovekid606@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 178 lines Thanks to everyone for their replies!!! I'll try> Thanks to everyone for their replies!!! I'll try > to answer everything. > Good to see that you and some others had similar > experiences. I don't > think I'll ever like it quite as much as MHTRTC but > it's still growing on > me! As far as nostalgia goes, that's one of the > primary draws that BoC has > on me. That, the complexity, the beauty, etc. I've > noticed some people > mentioning 'Julie and Candy' and 'the devil is in > the details'. the former > is quite good, but I especially like the latter. > it's so eerie and > hallucinatory.. it reminds me of level 3, the forest > on MickeyMousecapade > for the old Nintendo, if anyone recalls.. it > doesn't have anything in > common, just reminds me of that. I also agree that > as a whole, it's just as > emotional as the debut, but in a more anxious and > sinister way.. very > interesting juxtaposition. My favorite song so far, > and a perfect example > of what i was just talking about it 'sunshine > recorder', track 6. It's so > gorgeous that it nearly brings me to tears, but it > also makes me uneasy and > anxious. The eerie basslines, the reverbrant notes, > and the little kid > saying 'it's a beautiful place'.. I don't know it > just hits me in some > special way. > I, like you, also came into the album totally > cold.. I'd never heard any > of it, cept the sample on the BoC website. So it > was an interesting first > listen. :-) > > I also wanted to respond to derek and Z's > comments on my sophomoric > comment on the high sales ranking and idm elitism. > Here's the best answer I > can come up with: > I love IDM, pure and simple. But for me, and > some of my friends with > their own indiepopsnob sorta attitudes, it goes > beyond the music itself and > starts to become a sort of lifestyle. It sounds > terrible.. but I like to > think that since I discovered BoC on my own (as well > as Aphex, Ae, etc)and > started to become enveloped in their wonderful > psychadelic but intelligent > and nostalgic world, that I have some special > connection to it. You know.. > us IDM types 'get it'. We like to think that none > of our classmates, > teachers, etc 'get it', and if by chance they > 'liked' it, it would be on > some superficial level. As far as this specific > example is concerned, I > suppose that I don't want the sales rankings to go > up because I picture a > bunch of little junior high girls going and buying > geogaddi because their > indiesnob boyfriend played it for them and they > thought 'the sounds were > cool, kinda like that 'techno' stuff they hear by BT > on the radio.' Either > that or the old fogies who like the more > easylistening type tracks and buy > it thinking it's more adult alternative to listen to > on an airplane.. like > late era tangerine dream. It may be a little > selfish.. but it's also the > fact that (as bad as it sounds, I'm really not > trying to be mean) I don't > want Boards of canada's hard work to be overexposed > to people who aren't > going to appreciate it for all that it is. Like > throwing pearls before > swine, or whatever the expression is. (no, I'm not > saying the others are > swine, i'm simply using the example). As far as > everyone listening to BoC, > and them getting repaid for their hard work, BoC > themselves once said in an > interview that the reason they made their first > releases in such a limited > quantity is because they didn't care who got them as > long as their family > and friends heard it. > So i guess in conclusion, yes..it's partially > selfish motives.. the need > to be special and seen as elitist.. but also because > I genuinely don't want > them to be popularized and misinterpreted on a large > level. I think it was > an xlr8r review that said something along the lines > that BoC's sound is so > personal that you don't want to share it with > anybody. i think, as far as > BoC goes, that this is the heart of the matter. > hope that helped, and I'd > love to discuss it further if you want. thanks for > listening! > > Jonathan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Murphy" <kevin@eorbit.net> > To: "Jonathan Hierholzer" <ilovekid606@hotmail.com> > Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:02 AM > Subject: Re: [idm] Happy Geogaddi Day! > > > > On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 00:41, Jonathan Hierholzer > wrote: > > > I got my copy of Geogaddi in the mail today and > wanted to know > > > everyone's opinions (initial, of course). Right > off the bat, I was > > > personally underwhelmed, but the second time > through hit me as > > > brilliant.. I can't make up my mind yet.. it's > gonna take me quite a > > > while probably. > > > > My experience was very similar. Much like the > first time I listened to > > "Music Has A Right...", the first time through I > kind of let it wash > > over me, and it didn't make a very strong > impression. Then I put the > > headphones on and gave it a good listen. > > > > To paraphrase Beetlejuice, I've had it on repeat > for about five hours > > now AND IT JUST KEEPS GETTIN' BETTER EVERY SINGLE > TIME I HEAR IT! > > > > A few more first impressions: > > > > * A lot of the childish/nostalgic noises > that gave "Music Has.." > > its sense of naivite seem to be twisted > into something more > > anxious...more like the ghosts of > children than the sounds of > > a schoolyard. > > * Is the manipulated vocal of the > hypnotherapist on "The Devil > > Is In The Details" a tweak at every > music reviewer who > > referred to BOC as "hypnotic", or is it > just my overactive > > imagination? > > * "Julie and Candy" is *pretty*. :) > > * I'm really glad I didn't listen to > bootlegs before I got the > > CD...It was kind of a letdown when I got > the last Plaid album > > and realized that I'd already heard 90% > of the tracks as mp3 > > boots. Hooray for delayed gratification. > > * "Dandelion" and "Energy Warning" bug me > a bit insofar as the > > vocal samples are really obvious and the > tracks themselves > > don't really go anywhere. But a minor > nit overall. > > * Has anyone figured out what the heck the > vocorded voice on > > "1969" is singing (not the "1969 in the > sunshine" portion...)? > >
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2002-02-22 01:45Lander--- Jonathan Hierholzer <ilovekid606@hotmail.com> wrote: > Thanks to everyone for their re
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quoted 2 lines Thanks to everyone for their replies!!! I'll try to answer> Thanks to everyone for their replies!!! I'll try to answer > everything.
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quoted 4 lines I'd> I'd > love to discuss it further if you want. thanks for listening! > > Jonathan
Hey, thanks for the thoughtful response to my bad-mood post. I still disagree, but I can see where you're coming from. I'd also add, on YOUR side, that I can imagine not wanting people to make assumptions about you based on the "Scene" that might accompany a hugely popular group... But that phenomenon is, in some ways, inescapable I think. Just the fact that you love IDM means that some are going to make assumptions about you, but I suppose you have to either choose your battles, or just not care. Personally, on principle I do my best not to give a shit-- with sporadic success-- and that's probably the basis of my disagreement. Yeah, I think "oops I did it again" is a pretty good tune. Bite me, world. Z __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-22 01:56EggyToastAt 05:45 PM 2/21/2002 -0800, Lander wrote: >Hey, thanks for the thoughtful response to my
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quoted 6 lines Hey, thanks for the thoughtful response to my bad-mood post. I still>Hey, thanks for the thoughtful response to my bad-mood post. I still >disagree, but I can see where you're coming from. I'd also add, on YOUR >side, that I can imagine not wanting people to make assumptions about you >based on the "Scene" that might accompany a hugely popular group... >But that phenomenon is, in some ways, inescapable I think. Just the fact >that you love IDM means that some are going to make assumptions about you,
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2002-02-22 01:54EggyToastAt 07:05 PM 2/21/2002 -0800, Jonathan Hierholzer wrote: > So i guess in conclusion, yes..i
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quoted 7 lines So i guess in conclusion, yes..it's partially selfish motives.. the need> So i guess in conclusion, yes..it's partially selfish motives.. the need >to be special and seen as elitist.. but also because I genuinely don't want >them to be popularized and misinterpreted on a large level. I think it was >an xlr8r review that said something along the lines that BoC's sound is so >personal that you don't want to share it with anybody. i think, as far as >BoC goes, that this is the heart of the matter. hope that helped, and I'd >love to discuss it further if you want. thanks for listening!
Well, you can rest assured that the limited edition version is sort of their "made for fans and friends" version, and since only a few people will end up with that one, it's sort of like our own little family. I agree on the over exposure thing, and although I wish Boards of Canada the best, I would also like for people to appreciate music for more pure reasons, rather than "it's cool." Of course, a lot of people get into more obscure music because it's cool, and then pursue more of it because of personal reasons, so it's not all bad. I agree that it sort of irks me when people list things like "boards of canada" with "land of the loops," since they're most likely missing much of the subtlety of Boards of Canada, but oh well. The more money they make, the more music they can create, and they certainly haven't compromised their artistry yet. derek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-22 17:26kingmob@nmt.eduI seriously doubt large amounts of people will ever, or could ever start playing BoC becau
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I seriously doubt large amounts of people will ever, or could ever start playing BoC because its "cool". I don't think its the right kind of music. For music to be popular nowadays it has to be loud and quick and inane. Also, people don't listen to Britney Spears because its cool, they listen to it because its easy, and they're, of course, being non-idmers, stupid. People may listen to Aphex because hes cool, but Aphex's in-your-face attitude works for those people, I don't think BoC's smell the flower's atmosphere works for those same people. On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, EggyToast wrote:
quoted 30 lines At 07:05 PM 2/21/2002 -0800, Jonathan Hierholzer wrote:> At 07:05 PM 2/21/2002 -0800, Jonathan Hierholzer wrote: > > So i guess in conclusion, yes..it's partially selfish motives.. the need > >to be special and seen as elitist.. but also because I genuinely don't want > >them to be popularized and misinterpreted on a large level. I think it was > >an xlr8r review that said something along the lines that BoC's sound is so > >personal that you don't want to share it with anybody. i think, as far as > >BoC goes, that this is the heart of the matter. hope that helped, and I'd > >love to discuss it further if you want. thanks for listening! > > Well, you can rest assured that the limited edition version is sort of > their "made for fans and friends" version, and since only a few people will > end up with that one, it's sort of like our own little family. > > I agree on the over exposure thing, and although I wish Boards of Canada > the best, I would also like for people to appreciate music for more pure > reasons, rather than "it's cool." Of course, a lot of people get into more > obscure music because it's cool, and then pursue more of it because of > personal reasons, so it's not all bad. I agree that it sort of irks me > when people list things like "boards of canada" with "land of the loops," > since they're most likely missing much of the subtlety of Boards of Canada, > but oh well. The more money they make, the more music they can create, and > they certainly haven't compromised their artistry yet. > > derek > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-02-22 13:05Gabriel J. Weinstock> hallucinatory.. it reminds me of level 3, the forest on MickeyMousecapade > for the old
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quoted 2 lines hallucinatory.. it reminds me of level 3, the forest on MickeyMousecapade> hallucinatory.. it reminds me of level 3, the forest on MickeyMousecapade > for the old Nintendo, if anyone recalls.. it doesn't have anything in
good god, I actually beat that game. I remember finishing it and thinking "thank GOD that's over." I remember the worst part was when you had to have Minnie Mouse follow you, only she got stuck in like corners and behind walking brooms and stuff. that was a BIZARRE game. g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-22 15:25zachary mastoon>good god, I actually beat that game. I remember finishing it and thinking >"thank GOD tha
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quoted 5 lines good god, I actually beat that game. I remember finishing it and thinking>good god, I actually beat that game. I remember finishing it and thinking >"thank GOD that's over." I remember the worst part was when you had to have >Minnie Mouse follow you, only she got stuck in like corners and behind >walking brooms and stuff. that was a BIZARRE game. >g.
aren't you talking about mickey mouse's castle of illusion on sega? you start in a forest, then it gets dark and the music changes... the next level you are hopping from leaf to leaf and avoiding spiders... all i remember is smoking hash and playing that game til 5 in the morning in france back in like, '93 :) god, that game rocks! z _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-23 02:22Helix Tradesman>People may listen to Aphex because hes cool, but Aphex's >in-your-face attitude works for
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quoted 3 lines People may listen to Aphex because hes cool, but Aphex's>People may listen to Aphex because hes cool, but Aphex's >in-your-face attitude works for those people, I don't think BoC's smell >the flower's atmosphere works for those same people.
Of course not. It works for an entirely different set of people who are fed up with popular music, or who are open to new things. Perhaps people who like Moby, or Enya, or Delerium, or Tortoise will think BoC are the bees knees. Popular music for teens may have to sell itself out, but BoC may yet become relatively popular without pandering to the 12 year old girl audience. Look at what's happened with the Avalanches in the UK after all. It's not as though you even need radio play to be _that_ popular. I can't remember a single time I've heard Jurassic 5 on the radio, yet they're fairly popular. Enough of my ramblin' _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-24 05:29Irene McCOn 23 Feb 2002 at 2:22, Helix Tradesman wrote: > Look at what's happened with the Avalanch
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quoted 1 line Look at what's happened with the Avalanches in the UK after all.> Look at what's happened with the Avalanches in the UK after all.
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2002-02-25 17:23kingmob@nmt.eduI think the Avalanches cd is quite excellent and better than most nearly all the idm put o
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I think the Avalanches cd is quite excellent and better than most nearly all the idm put out. Its a lot of fun to listen to and the replayability is almost infinite. I love how each track melts into the next. And nearly each track has some hook or sample that is memorable. Good to play Tetris Attack to. On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Irene McC wrote:
quoted 16 lines On 23 Feb 2002 at 2:22, Helix Tradesman wrote:> On 23 Feb 2002 at 2:22, Helix Tradesman wrote: > > > Look at what's happened with the Avalanches in the UK after all. > > Curious to know : what exatly HAS happened? I have heard the album > twice, found it raucous and didn't understand what all the fuss was > about - is it hugely popular, or what? > > I > * > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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