quoted 14 lines From: matis <keynell@wp.pl>
>From: matis <keynell@wp.pl>
>To: "idm@hyperreal.org" <idm@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: [idm] Tresor
>Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 21:46:09 +0100
>
>how many of you listen this
>i`ve heard opinions that this is the best techno available , but i
>personally think it`s mostly crap , but Ch. Vogel had few interesting
>tracks and now it is said that he left minimal techno scene because it
>wasn`t creative , his last record was released by Mute or NovaMute , i
>think .
>he also released 2 records for Mille Plateaux which seems to be very
>experimental label ,anyone would share opinion on them?
>are they intelligent ?
I'm personally quite a fan of the Tresor crowd. In general they continually
crank out releases of hard, minimal techno. It's an acquired taste, I would
say... highly repetitive and usually lacking any sort of melodic
sensibility. i would agree with the generalization that it's the "best
techno available" considering that they've released several top notch
releases by Cristian Vogel, Surgeon, Subhead, Dave Tarrida, DJ
Shufflemaster, Fumiya Tanaka... not to mention classics from Jeff Mills,
Joey Beltram, etc..... I stumbled onto this stuff a little late in the game,
but I never seem to tire of what is perhaps a rather formulaic sound. It
just always seems to sound good on most of the Tresor releases I've heard.
They've also put out some non-bangin stuff by Drexciya; I know there have
been several threads about their new one, but I think it's solid as is
"Neptune's Lair," its predecessor for the label. (On a side note, I wouldn't
necessarily dismiss the harder, more repetitive Tresor stuff as
unintelligent, although that may not have been your intent in the original
post.)
I had assumed that Vogel left Tresor because his music had gotten
considerably stranger than their usual releases (although Subhead and
Tarrida are doing comparable things to his "Buscas Invisibles" release I
think), and he was dabbling in more leftfield stuff. I also assumed that
Mute offered him much better distribution and more potential to crossover
with different audiences, since Tresor is so heavily associated with the
banging techno sound. I haven't heard much of his Mille Plateaux material
although what I have heard has paled to his Tresor and Mute releases... he's
definitely progressed in the last several years. "Buscas" and "Rescate137"
are both really great albums, as is the Super_Collider release on Loaded
("Head On"). I have heard that a new Super_Collider release is expected to
drop in May or thereabouts... fingers crossed, I can't wait!
Tresor is releasing a 3CD retrospective compilation in March which looks to
be pretty interesting... I missed most of these releases when they
originally came out so it will be great to have selections from the
backcatalogue on one extensive compilation rather than trying to track all
of it down for outrageous prices. i like the stuff, but not THAT much ;-)
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