Didn't Bowie do a lot of blow, though? Just a thought.
dave
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Mxyzptlk wrote:
quoted 55 lines At 11:24 PM 2/4/2002, you wrote:
> At 11:24 PM 2/4/2002, you wrote:
> > I don't smoke weed at all anymore but when I did,
> >music was the *only* thing I wanted to be a part of
> >while high. For me, being high just mostly sucked
> >because I don't like how heavy my legs get, how
> >fucking hungry I become, or how hard it is to even
> >talk or think straight. But, listening to music is
> >absolutely great because the beat just consumes me and
> >gives me more clarity. But, if you think about that,
> >it's ridiculous because the music sounds great just
> >because it rescues me from the inescapable confusion
> >and stupidity that is cannabis intoxication. When I'm
> >sober, music has twice the impact on my mind. I am
> >able to create internal "hallucinations" like image
> >collages and colors when listening to things like
> >Joachem Paap's ambient albums on FAX or Boards of
> >Canada. Plus, it's an even sweeter relaxation than
> >alcohol, marijuana, benzos, or other sedatives could
> >ever provide. ....
>
> David Bowie once remarked that he had tried LSD, but found that he had no
> need for it because his own imagination was powerful enough on its own
> (great similarity between your comment above and this). At the time I read
> that remark, I was in the middle of my own 18 year run of heavy multiple
> drug use and couldn't see what he meant. Having been away from using for 15
> years, I can see what is meant quite easily. Still, there is a long
> established thread of people making the more avant-garde types of music and
> drug usage.
> I tend to suspect that often it's the curious and experimental
> types of people who are going to play with mind expanding elements (and, of
> course, there are notable exceptions to this generalization) in the first
> place...the same people who might go off the beaten track in musical tastes
> and production. I believe that if this is indeed the case, it may be an
> issue of employing a 'post hoc ergo propter hoc' fallacy (because some
> event happened before another, that event is necessarily the cause of the
> subsequent one) to say that drugs are indeed the cause of the music or the
> appreciation of it. What is unquestionable is that drugs change the focus
> and way in which one hears and appreciates. While I do think that LSD usage
> in my own experience (fairly heavy in my teens - and acid was pretty potent
> then) altered the way I hear things and 'opened me' for new things, it
> would be a bit impossible for me to argue about what I would have been like
> re my listening habits without those experiences. Perhaps my curious and
> experimental nature which led me to play with drugs would also have led to
> me traveling a less-trodden path when it comes to music without any drug
> usage. Frank Zappa would be a good example of someone who thought outside
> of the paradigm without drugs. Yada yada...
> jeff
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