indeed, I have a feeling that the "punk" that's being referred to here is
that of bands like green day and sum 41. I wouldn't call that punk at all.
There is, of course, a huge age gap here sometimes and if you're a bit older
and say that you like punk or post punk most people will think that you're
lame because their frame of reference deals solely with these current
power-pop-"punk" bands.
I spent all of last night sitting at a bar called black and white here in
nyc listening to post punk and it sure was refreshing.
Souljazz's new comp "In the beginning there was rhythm" is a really good
starting point to post-punk or what would be more applicable "intelligent
punk"
here's the track listing:
23 Skidoo: Coup
Gang of Four: To Hell With Poverty
The Human League: Being Boiled
The Slits: In The Beginning There Was Rhythm
This Heat: 24 Track Loop
Throbbing Gristle: 20 Jazz Funk Greats
The Pop Group: She Is Beyond Good And Evil
Cabaret Voltaire: Sluggin' Fer Jesus
23 Skidoo: Vegas El Bandito
ACR: Knife Slits Water (12" version)
~adesh
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mxyzptlk [mailto:jpklein@telocity.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:57 AM
To: subverseco communications; idm@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [idm] substances and music...punk's not dumb
At 10:34 AM 2/4/2002, subverseco communications wrote:
quoted 5 lines svinrave@yahoo.com slurred:
>svinrave@yahoo.com slurred:
>>But i shoul admit that when i was young and
>>stupid i needed pot to get into punk rock or may
>>be punk rock is so dumb you have to be high to
>>apreciate it....:))
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quoted 10 lines I hardly consider Wire, Gang of Four, the Buzzcocks, The Pop Group, The
>I hardly consider Wire, Gang of Four, the Buzzcocks, The Pop Group, The
>Slits, the Dead Kennedys, Black Flag... and TONS of other punk rock groups
>to be dumb...on either a musical level or an intellectual one.
>
>There are more than enough intellectual, or at least educated, punk rock
>out their to disqualify your comment.
>
>Of course, if you want to listen to, say, Blink 182, you probably ARE
>gonna have to hit that crack pipe :D
>l
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Agreed. And as a veteran of the punk rock era, I can easily recall one of
Mr. Lydon's crowd baiting calls "Stop smoking pot!!"
jeff
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