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2002-02-04 16:34subverseco communications Re: [idm] substances and music...punk's not dumb
└─ 2002-02-04 17:56Mxyzptlk Re: [idm] substances and music...punk's not dumb
└─ 2002-02-04 20:17Record Camp RE: [idm] substances and music...punk's not dumb
└─ 2002-02-05 01:37s r [idm] post punk
2002-02-04 20:20Blake Irvin Re: [idm] substances and music...punk's not dumb
└─ 2002-02-04 21:28s r [idm] substances and music, sonic youth
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2002-02-04 22:44subverseco communications Re: [idm] substances and music...punk's not dumb
2002-02-05 23:44Forward Production RE: [idm] substances and music...punk's not dumb
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2002-02-04 16:34subverseco communicationssvinrave@yahoo.com slurred: >But i shoul admit that when i was young and >stupid i needed
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quoted 4 lines But i shoul admit that when i was young and>But i shoul admit that when i was young and >stupid i needed pot to get into punk rock or may >be punk rock is so dumb you have to be high to >apreciate it....:))
I hardly consider Wire, Gang of Four, the Buzzcocks, The Pop Group, The Slits, the Dead Kennedys, Black Flag... and TONS of other punk rock groups to be dumb...on either a musical level or an intellectual one. There are more than enough intellectual, or at least educated, punk rock out their to disqualify your comment. Of course, if you want to listen to, say, Blink 182, you probably ARE gonna have to hit that crack pipe :D _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-04 17:56MxyzptlkAt 10:34 AM 2/4/2002, subverseco communications wrote: >svinrave@yahoo.com slurred: >>But
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At 10:34 AM 2/4/2002, subverseco communications wrote:
quoted 5 lines svinrave@yahoo.com slurred:>svinrave@yahoo.com slurred: >>But i shoul admit that when i was young and >>stupid i needed pot to get into punk rock or may >>be punk rock is so dumb you have to be high to >>apreciate it....:))
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quoted 10 lines I hardly consider Wire, Gang of Four, the Buzzcocks, The Pop Group, The>I hardly consider Wire, Gang of Four, the Buzzcocks, The Pop Group, The >Slits, the Dead Kennedys, Black Flag... and TONS of other punk rock groups >to be dumb...on either a musical level or an intellectual one. > >There are more than enough intellectual, or at least educated, punk rock >out their to disqualify your comment. > >Of course, if you want to listen to, say, Blink 182, you probably ARE >gonna have to hit that crack pipe :D >l
------- Agreed. And as a veteran of the punk rock era, I can easily recall one of Mr. Lydon's crowd baiting calls "Stop smoking pot!!" jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-04 20:17Record Campindeed, I have a feeling that the "punk" that's being referred to here is that of bands li
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indeed, I have a feeling that the "punk" that's being referred to here is that of bands like green day and sum 41. I wouldn't call that punk at all. There is, of course, a huge age gap here sometimes and if you're a bit older and say that you like punk or post punk most people will think that you're lame because their frame of reference deals solely with these current power-pop-"punk" bands. I spent all of last night sitting at a bar called black and white here in nyc listening to post punk and it sure was refreshing. Souljazz's new comp "In the beginning there was rhythm" is a really good starting point to post-punk or what would be more applicable "intelligent punk" here's the track listing: 23 Skidoo: Coup Gang of Four: To Hell With Poverty The Human League: Being Boiled The Slits: In The Beginning There Was Rhythm This Heat: 24 Track Loop Throbbing Gristle: 20 Jazz Funk Greats The Pop Group: She Is Beyond Good And Evil Cabaret Voltaire: Sluggin' Fer Jesus 23 Skidoo: Vegas El Bandito ACR: Knife Slits Water (12" version) ~adesh http://www.recordcamp.com -----Original Message----- From: Mxyzptlk [mailto:jpklein@telocity.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:57 AM To: subverseco communications; idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] substances and music...punk's not dumb At 10:34 AM 2/4/2002, subverseco communications wrote:
quoted 5 lines svinrave@yahoo.com slurred:>svinrave@yahoo.com slurred: >>But i shoul admit that when i was young and >>stupid i needed pot to get into punk rock or may >>be punk rock is so dumb you have to be high to >>apreciate it....:))
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quoted 10 lines I hardly consider Wire, Gang of Four, the Buzzcocks, The Pop Group, The>I hardly consider Wire, Gang of Four, the Buzzcocks, The Pop Group, The >Slits, the Dead Kennedys, Black Flag... and TONS of other punk rock groups >to be dumb...on either a musical level or an intellectual one. > >There are more than enough intellectual, or at least educated, punk rock >out their to disqualify your comment. > >Of course, if you want to listen to, say, Blink 182, you probably ARE >gonna have to hit that crack pipe :D >l
------- Agreed. And as a veteran of the punk rock era, I can easily recall one of Mr. Lydon's crowd baiting calls "Stop smoking pot!!" jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-05 01:37s ryea, thats what i call good punk, especially german produced that gets to synthipop still
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yea, thats what i call good punk, especially german produced that gets to synthipop still after all this years i am tired of that kind of music actually i dont like any vocal lyrics __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-04 20:20Blake Irvinhow bout that sonic youth? blake/ Clockworm http://mp3.com/clockworm ----- Original Messag
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how bout that sonic youth? blake/ Clockworm http://mp3.com/clockworm ----- Original Message ----- From: "subverseco communications" <glitchy_and_scratchy@hotmail.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [idm] substances and music...punk's not dumb
quoted 11 lines svinrave@yahoo.com slurred:> svinrave@yahoo.com slurred: > >But i shoul admit that when i was young and > >stupid i needed pot to get into punk rock or may > >be punk rock is so dumb you have to be high to > >apreciate it....:)) > > I hardly consider Wire, Gang of Four, the Buzzcocks, The Pop Group, The > Slits, the Dead Kennedys, Black Flag... and TONS of other punk rock groups > to be dumb...on either a musical level or an intellectual one. > > There are more than enough intellectual, or at least educated, punk rock
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quoted 3 lines their to disqualify your comment.> their to disqualify your comment. > > Of course, if you want to listen to, say, Blink 182, you probably ARE
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quoted 10 lines have to hit that crack pipe :D> have to hit that crack pipe :D > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2002-02-04 21:28s ractually a puff of ganja smoke once in 2 month can do you good. i mean one puff! modern st
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actually a puff of ganja smoke once in 2 month can do you good. i mean one puff! modern stuff is like 20 times more potent in terms of THC then the stuff in the 80s, it can really blow your mind for the rest of your life as i observed happened to some:( in 97 or 98 i went to hear Sonic Youth in Hammerstein Balroom, ny city it was pathetic... sorry you know who was good till the end- Ramones Also ukrainian band "VV", Jelo Biafra liked them too. Not any more though... that kind of music degraded completely __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-04 21:53No one in particularI guess I'm sort of young (23). I smoked a lot of pot in high school, despite being allerg
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I guess I'm sort of young (23). I smoked a lot of pot in high school, despite being allergic and vomiting a lot (peer pressure... damn). I listened to electronic music (mostly random singles from Tower... Messiah, L.A. Style... that kind of stuff) and hip-hop, then cheesy industrial (the more mainstream stuff: KMFDM, Front 242, Sister Machine Gun, etc.), then heard Orbital's Brown Album, was blown away. I got into "raves" in '95 or so, entirely for the music at the time, but then got into the drugs as part of the scene, did a whole lot of acid (a few times a week) and e for 6 months or so, had a bad trip and quit all the drugs because it wasn't fun anymore. I continued going to raves sober tapering off until '99 or so. I still go out to smaller parties occasionally, but always sober. The type of music I like to dance to has changed a lot (read: I've gotten a lot pickier), so it's pretty much all Detroit and techno now, and there isn't a lot of that here (Portland, OR). Consequently I don't go out to dance much anymore. Now it's pretty much mostly IDM and "underground" hip-hop for me. I still miss the rave scene, sort of. Even sober, going out and dancing for four-six hours was a great release, but it doesn't feel the same anymore. Oh well. Life goes on. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-04 22:44subverseco communications>From: "Blake Irvin" <wordsounds@yahoo.com> >To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] s
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quoted 9 lines From: "Blake Irvin" <wordsounds@yahoo.com>>From: "Blake Irvin" <wordsounds@yahoo.com> >To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] substances and music...punk's not dumb >Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:20:46 -0500 > >how bout that sonic youth? > > >blake/
Sonic Youth definitely carries the torch well...though I haven't been a huge fan of their albums since "Dirty" - I saw them play last year and the entire presentation (excellent visuals) was wonderful. I just wish they wouldn't have invited Eddie Vedder to their little party in L.A. :D _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-05 23:44Forward Productionoh god, not the "i" word! hm...Human League as "post punk", huh? >Souljazz's new comp "In
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oh god, not the "i" word! hm...Human League as "post punk", huh?
quoted 15 lines Souljazz's new comp "In the beginning there was rhythm" is a really good>Souljazz's new comp "In the beginning there was rhythm" is a really good >starting point to post-punk or what would be more applicable "intelligent >punk" >here's the track listing: > >23 Skidoo: Coup >Gang of Four: To Hell With Poverty >The Human League: Being Boiled >The Slits: In The Beginning There Was Rhythm >This Heat: 24 Track Loop >Throbbing Gristle: 20 Jazz Funk Greats >The Pop Group: She Is Beyond Good And Evil >Cabaret Voltaire: Sluggin' Fer Jesus >23 Skidoo: Vegas El Bandito >ACR: Knife Slits Water (12" version)
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2002-02-06 03:02Record Campyep, they didn't start off as cheesy as they are now, being boiled is awesome! and yeah, t
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yep, they didn't start off as cheesy as they are now, being boiled is awesome! and yeah, the "i" word sux, especially given the current climate of this list. ~adesh http://www.recordcamp.com -----Original Message----- From: Forward Production [mailto:production@forward.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:45 PM To: idm@hyperreal.org Cc: Record Camp Subject: RE: [idm] substances and music...punk's not dumb oh god, not the "i" word! hm...Human League as "post punk", huh?
quoted 15 lines Souljazz's new comp "In the beginning there was rhythm" is a really good>Souljazz's new comp "In the beginning there was rhythm" is a really good >starting point to post-punk or what would be more applicable "intelligent >punk" >here's the track listing: > >23 Skidoo: Coup >Gang of Four: To Hell With Poverty >The Human League: Being Boiled >The Slits: In The Beginning There Was Rhythm >This Heat: 24 Track Loop >Throbbing Gristle: 20 Jazz Funk Greats >The Pop Group: She Is Beyond Good And Evil >Cabaret Voltaire: Sluggin' Fer Jesus >23 Skidoo: Vegas El Bandito >ACR: Knife Slits Water (12" version)
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