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Re: [idm] Jazz (OT)wasRE: [idm] Yo Guys and Gals---Help on this one.....

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2002-01-29 06:26David Moore Re: [idm] Jazz (OT)wasRE: [idm] Yo Guys and Gals---Help on this one.....
2002-01-29 07:37[idm] Jazz (OT)wasRE: [idm] Yo Guys and Gals---Help on this one.....
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2002-01-29 06:26David Moore>As for people working now check out susie ibarra. She's a great >drummer >but I don't kno
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Re: [idm] Jazz (OT)wasRE: [idm] Yo Guys and Gals---Help on this one.....
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quoted 6 lines As for people working now check out susie ibarra. She's a great >drummer>As for people working now check out susie ibarra. She's a great >drummer >but I don't know if she ever learned how to keep time. She >just puts up >these wild walls of sound with a just a drum kit. I don't >know of any >recordings of just her solo playing and the album she put >out on tzadik >has hardly any of her drumming but she has a live album out with some other >drummer that i've heard good things about.
I've seen her play twice, she probably is the most talented drummer playing now. I first saw her last year at noisepop in chicago (playing for yo la tengo) and then again with Pauline Oliveros' New Circle 5. She brings a bands sound together so well. I talked to her in New York and she supposedly has an album released on Tzadik last month. As for Elvin Jones (also mentioned) I think his playing on Sun Ship (John Coltrane) is brilliant, he's a mad genius. Also he was recently on an album by Bill Frissell with Dave Holland (Bill Frissell was in Naked City i believe, and Dave Holland was the other part of Coltrane's later rhythm section), but i haven't had a chance to listen enough to say whether this album is worth while or not yet... David _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-29 07:37roberbil@earthlink.netI am gonna need all the help I can get on this one..... I need the best shit in these musi
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I am gonna need all the help I can get on this one..... I need the best shit in these musical veins:(I know its subjective, but the more suggestions the merrier)... Jazz-or Jazz influenced and SOOOOO broad a category, I'll try to focus on drummers or just great stuff: for earlier swinging check out the early big bands like chick webb's (an amazing drummer) and then there's duke ellington, fletcher henderson and count basie for slower less beat driven stuff. Later on you get faster more complicated stuff like charlie parker and dizzy guilespie doing bebop. My personal favorite from this general era is thelonious monk. He's an amazing piano playing who composed some the most complex jazz ever made (check out "brilliant corners") a little later comes miles davis, whose later fusion stuff kicks ass, and john coltrane, whose drummer during the early years, Elvin Jones has been compared to squarepusher (this is almost on topic) or the other way around rather, for the similar amount of complexity in their work. Later on you get free jazz by the likes of ornette coleman, coltrane evolved into playing free, roswell rudd and bunch of other guys. I'm not sure when peter brotzmann came on to the scene but his recent work is completely insane. Most people find free jazz unlistenable, and not very free or happy sounding , but don pullen's work really has a joyful freedom to it even though it's a little more constrained by tradition. As for people working now check out susie ibarra. She's a great drummer but I don't know if she ever learned how to keep time. She just puts up these wild walls of sound with a just a drum kit. I don't know of any recordings of just her solo playing and the album she put out on tzadik has hardly any of her drumming but she has a live album out with some other drummer that i've heard good things about. Speaking of tzadik, if you haven't checked out John Zorn, look into naked city for everything influenced music and masada for jazz combined with traditional jewish music. Sorry I couldn't suggest many specific albums, my jazz record collection's pretty sad but I've heard a lot. Hope I was helpful. -Peter