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Re: [idm] 'Porky Prime Cut' story on runout grooves

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2002-01-21 08:31[se!q {is!] bias} [idm] 'Porky Prime Cut' story on runout grooves
2002-01-23 08:52sp808 eating corn flakes Re: [idm] 'Porky Prime Cut' story on runout grooves
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2002-01-21 08:31[se!q {is!] bias}hmmm very interesting... bias. http://bias.underground.hu xpn-voice-added-contact:/dev/70/
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Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:31:07 +0100 (CET)
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[idm] 'Porky Prime Cut' story on runout grooves
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hmmm very interesting... bias. http://bias.underground.hu xpn-voice-added-contact:/dev/70/312/9708 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:06:52 -0800 From: depeche <d-mode@pacbell.net> Subject: [bong] Porky Prime Cut... Revealed! Ever wonder what the story behind the "Porky Prime Cut..." in the runout groove of all those records is about? I found this today, it explains it all.... Those mysterious messages explained! (by Adrian Deevoy) George Peckham, record cutter by appointment, and Porky are one and the same. 'It was a nickname I got in Liverpool during the '60s,' expands Porky in melodic Scouse, ''cos of all the old slagbags I used to chase and the ale I put away.' Singer and guitarist with the Brian Epstein-managed '60s beat combo The Fourmost, Peckham left the group to work for Epstein's rather more famous charges when they opened the Apple studio in 1968. <snip> 'The problem the lads were having was, they found they'd record something in the studio and it would sound completely different, really weak. So I said they should do an acetate on vinyl and log the information then transfer the spec when they cut the master.' Obviously impressed by this rather technical-sounding jargon, The Beatles offered Peckham the position of chief Apple cutter and Porky was born. <snip of teccie record-mastering stuff> 'Before you make the final positive,' adds Peckham, 'you have to put a matrix number in the middle, because as far as the factory is concerned it's just another disc. Then I sneak on the old Porky Prime Cut...' Originally, the 'Porky' was a reference for the pressing plant should they need to contact the cutter. 'That was the main reason I only ever wrote Porky on The Beatles' records,' Peckham enlarges, 'but I was also scared to put any weird stuff on their records because their fans were that crazy about them that they'd read something into it.' <snip about cutting George Harrison's and John Lennon's solo records> Soon everyone wanted the now legendary Porky hallmark - preferably replete with cryptic message - on the run-off grooves of their records. <snip about other cutting jobs for Led Zeppelin, Genesis, Stiff Records...> (UL tie-in alert) '(Monty Python's) Matching Tie and Handkerchief album was a bit of a bastard,' he chuckles. 'Mike Palin came down and said he wanted to cut this one track with a double groove so you put the record on and depending which groove the needle fell into, you'd get one of two tracks. Ten goes that took. A right bugger of a red eye job. I think I wrote, 'Dear Mum, Please Send Another Cuppa Down, Still Cutting The Python LP, Love Porky XX' on that one.' Andrew d-mode@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/d-mode Fax# (520) 752-7843 ICQ# 11490225 ------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-23 08:52sp808 eating corn flakesanyone know of any records released recently that would have such a "hidden" track?? final
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Wed, 23 Jan 2002 08:52:54 +0000
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Re: [idm] 'Porky Prime Cut' story on runout grooves
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anyone know of any records released recently that would have such a "hidden" track?? finally just got around to listening to the last track on the jones "like me, your like me" thats backwards and at 33 instead of 45.interesting. if any of you havent heard this release, recommend checking it out. brian
quoted 10 lines (UL tie-in alert)>(UL tie-in alert) >'(Monty Python's) Matching Tie and Handkerchief album was a bit of a >bastard,' he chuckles. 'Mike Palin came down and said he wanted to cut this >one track with a double groove so you put the record on and depending which >groove the needle fell into, you'd get one of two tracks. Ten goes that >took. A right bugger of a red eye job. I think I wrote, 'Dear Mum, Please >Send Another Cuppa Down, Still Cutting The Python LP, Love Porky XX' on >that >one.' >
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