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2001-09-25 19:08nat hawks Re: [idm] Telefon Tel Aviv [rebuttle/ramble]
├─ 2001-09-25 19:19Adam Piontek [idm] not emotion again?! was (Re: [idm] Telefon Tel Aviv [rebuttle/ramble])
└─ 2001-09-25 19:36Greg Clow Re: [idm] Telefon Tel Aviv [rebuttle/ramble]
2001-09-25 19:39Aaron D Meyers Re: [idm] Telefon Tel Aviv [rebuttle/ramble]
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2001-09-25 19:08nat hawksok,ok, i overreacted/made big assumptions there... and when i say "rock" i dont mean disto
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ok,ok, i overreacted/made big assumptions there... and when i say "rock" i dont mean distorted power chord, i mean love. Bambi "rocks." i've just feel like i'm witnessing a general aesthetic decision to make surface music (emphasis on texture qualities), which is fine, but i prefer heart-wrenching (and have heard plenty of examples that offer both). what drew me to early aphex and mu-ziq was the quality of songmanship, the heart. i understand that electronic music is disregarding/rewriting the rules, but i struggle to find a constant flow of materials that satisfy me in such a way that, say, Neil Young and his acoustic does, or Led Zepellin, or the Smiths, or SlowDive ... of course this isn't electronic music's job, it's charting new territory, new emotions, and the constant battle against succumbing to the naturally numbing effects of computer/synth based music creation is a fascinating one to watch. but i believe there are inherent qualities in all music that soothes our deepest insecurities and aligns us with one another that will carry on until we are no more...and this is what i seek. AND i got drunk last weekend and headbanged to AppetiteForDestructin in its entirety and everything since has just been a big come down.
quoted 34 lines From: Andrei <andrei@world.std.com>>From: Andrei <andrei@world.std.com> >To: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] Telefon Tel Aviv >Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:35:44 -0400 > >On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, nat hawks wrote: > > > i fully agree with brian here and i'm starting to get erked by the IDM >i've > > been coming across. it's getting too complacent. where is the >passion?! > > there's no fire in this music. too passive. > > > > i came into this music through early aphex and mu-ziq. that shit rocks >like > > anything rocks. it kicks ass. IDM these days seems way way too glossy >and > > dreamy and dead. and as a disclaimer i'll claim ignorance of every >niche of > > the scene right now, so dont get mad at me, show me what there is... > > > > i'll take vanetian snares over tel aviv... > >What about the last/new Squarepusher ? >Otto Von Schirach ? >Phthalocyanine ? (I guess he hasn't released anything in a while though) > >Andrei > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-09-25 19:19Adam Piontek--- nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote: > AND i got drunk last weekend and headbanged to
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--- nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 4 lines AND i got drunk last weekend and headbanged to> AND i got drunk last weekend and headbanged to > AppetiteForDestructin in its > entirety and everything since has just been a big > come down.
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2001-09-25 19:36Greg ClowAt 03:08 PM 25/09/01, nat hawks wrote: >AND i got drunk last weekend and headbanged to App
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At 03:08 PM 25/09/01, nat hawks wrote:
quoted 2 lines AND i got drunk last weekend and headbanged to AppetiteForDestructin in>AND i got drunk last weekend and headbanged to AppetiteForDestructin in >its entirety and everything since has just been a big come down.
See, there ya go - Guns & Roses rock AND kick ass! :) Greg (I'm not kidding!) --- Greg Clow - greg@stainedproductions.com - greg@feedbackmonitor.com concert & event promotions - http://www.stainedproductions.com electronic music radio/reviews/interviews - http://www.feedbackmonitor.com 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor - Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 - Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-09-25 19:39Aaron D MeyersJust for the record, I got drunk and KARAOKE'D to songs from Appetite for Destruction last
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Just for the record, I got drunk and KARAOKE'D to songs from Appetite for Destruction last weekend, and I've listened to the Telefon Tel Aviv album about 3 or 4 times since I got it yesterday. So you CAN have it both ways! -Aaron a fan of loud, abrasive music AND loungy, mellow bordering-on-muzak music ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Clow <greg@stainedproductions.com> Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:36 pm Subject: Re: [idm] Telefon Tel Aviv [rebuttle/ramble]
quoted 27 lines At 03:08 PM 25/09/01, nat hawks wrote:> At 03:08 PM 25/09/01, nat hawks wrote: > >AND i got drunk last weekend and headbanged to > AppetiteForDestructin in > >its entirety and everything since has just been a big come down. > > See, there ya go - Guns & Roses rock AND kick ass! :) > > Greg > (I'm not kidding!) > > > > --- > Greg Clow - greg@stainedproductions.com - > greg@feedbackmonitor.com concert & event promotions - > http://www.stainedproductions.comelectronic music > radio/reviews/interviews - http://www.feedbackmonitor.com > 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor - Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 > - Canada > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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