IDM Mailing Archive

2001-09-24 09:59duncan van halluciphileas far as music goes you are both correct: <blockquote>2. a.A set of musical recordings st

From:: duncan van halluciphile <duncan@cyberlink.com>
To:: |.|>./\/\. <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 24 Sep 101 09:59:43 EST
Subject:: Re: [idm] What is an album?

as far as music goes you are both correct: <blockquote>2. a.A set of musical recordings stored together in jackets under one binding. b.The holder for such recordings. c.One or more 12-inch long-playing records in a slipcase. d.A phonograph record. e.A recording of different musical pieces. 3.A printed collection of musical compositions, pictures, or literary selections.</blockquote> so, by definition, If you had a floppy disk with midi files, that too would be an album, I suppose, since the disck itself is the one binding. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-09-24 10:41- s h a r o n -My partner and I have this continual disagreement: -- I say an "album" is a collection of

From:: - s h a r o n - <bea@warp.nfld.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 08:11:23 -0230
Subject:: [idm] What is an album?

My partner and I have this continual disagreement: -- I say an "album" is a collection of tracks by an artist that constitute a release, in any format. (E.g. "I am totally enamoured with Funckarma's new album 'Solid State'. I recently received the CD from Forced Exposure and have been listening to it a lot since. Such beautiful colours! I no longer consider Funckarma brown." -- He says an "album" is the vinyl format of a release. (E.g. "Most of L'usine's EPs are albums, which we can't get because we don't have a turntable. But a lot of the tracks appear on A Pseudo Steady State anyway, so we might not be missing much.") Which one of us has the terminology correct? -Sharon in Canada

2001-09-24 11:10Pjotr StamI don't think the term 'album' has anything to do with the format it's printed on... An al

From:: Pjotr Stam <fredscape@rocketmail.com>
To:: - s h a r o n - <bea@warp.nfld.net>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 12:10:39 +0100 (BST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] What is an album?
Reply to:: [idm] What is an album?

I don't think the term 'album' has anything to do with the format it's printed on... An album is usually just a release that has more tunes than an EP or single release ;) But usually an album is a compilation of tunes from a certain period of time that somehow have something that connects them...this is not always the case mind you, but usually an album forms a whole, much more than an EP/12" does... TheTec. --- - s h a r o n - <bea@warp.nfld.net> wrote: > My partner and I have this continual disagreement:

quoted 17 lines -- I say an "album" is a collection of tracks by an artist

> > -- I say an "album" is a collection of tracks by an artist > that constitute a release, in any format. (E.g. "I am totally > enamoured with Funckarma's new album 'Solid State'. I recently > received the CD from Forced Exposure and have been listening > to it a lot since. Such beautiful colours! I no longer > consider Funckarma brown." > > -- He says an "album" is the vinyl format of a release. (E.g. > "Most of L'usine's EPs are albums, which we can't get because > we don't have a turntable. But a lot of the tracks appear on A > Pseudo Steady State anyway, so we might not be missing much.") > > Which one of us has the terminology correct? > > -Sharon in Canada >

===== Pjotr Stam || teccie@mindless.com http://www.fredscape.com Den Haag, The Netherlands "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-09-24 13:56henrik strombergAt 08.11 -0230 01-09-24, - s h a r o n - wrote: >My partner and I have this continual disa

From:: henrik stromberg <hs@groove.st>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:56:22 +0200
Subject:: Re: [idm] What is an album?
Reply to:: [idm] What is an album?

At 08.11 -0230 01-09-24, - s h a r o n - wrote:

quoted 3 lines My partner and I have this continual disagreement:

>My partner and I have this continual disagreement: >-- I say an "album" is a collection of tracks >-- He says an "album" is the vinyl format of a release.

i agree with you, sharon. an album can be released on many diffirent formats - CD, vinyl, cassette, mp3... a vinyl album is also known as an LP. see for example orbital's first album, know as either LP, CD or MC depending on the format you bought. hs -- _____________________________ fossil fuel for fossil people --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-09-24 14:14Aaron D MeyersSharon- I would agree with your definition of album except with one slight distinction. I

From:: Aaron D Meyers <adm226@nyu.edu>
To:: - s h a r o n - <bea@warp.nfld.net>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 10:14:45 -0400
Subject:: Re: [idm] What is an album?

Sharon- I would agree with your definition of album except with one slight distinction. I wouldn't consider any kind of collection of previous releases to be an "album". So Push Button Objects' "Dirty Dozen" does NOT go down as an album in my book and I'd expect that others share this view. Maybe not though. -Aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: "- s h a r o n -" <bea@warp.nfld.net> Date: Monday, September 24, 2001 6:41 am Subject: [idm] What is an album?

quoted 17 lines My partner and I have this continual disagreement:

> My partner and I have this continual disagreement: > > -- I say an "album" is a collection of tracks by an artist that > constitute a release, in any format. (E.g. "I am totally enamoured > with Funckarma's new album 'Solid State'. I recently received the > CD from Forced Exposure and have been listening to it a lot since. > Such beautiful colours! I no longer consider Funckarma brown." > > -- He says an "album" is the vinyl format of a release. (E.g. > "Most of L'usine's EPs are albums, which we can't get because we > don't have a turntable. But a lot of the tracks appear on A Pseudo > Steady State anyway, so we might not be missing much.") > > Which one of us has the terminology correct? > > -Sharon in Canada >

--------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-09-24 15:06Aaron Trummboth of you I think - albums were vinyl before there was anything else, but they were call

From:: Aaron Trumm <aaron@nquit.com>
To:: - s h a r o n - <bea@warp.nfld.net>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Cc:: Larry Lines <larry@nquit.com>
Date:: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 10:06:18 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] What is an album?

both of you I think - albums were vinyl before there was anything else, but they were called records - records are always vinyl, except that sometimes i call a release a record, just cuz it sounds cool and my label is NQuit Records even though I've never done vinyl and I don't say "I make cds" to people because that sounds like I'm in manufactering, but if I say "I make records" they know I'm a producer and nobody ever says "I make albums" - people never called cassettes anything but tapes "I just got young m.c.'s tape" - then somewhere along the way album meant a long play release, and as cd's came out people mostly just called 'em cds "I just got the new young m.c. cd" but it wasn't accurate to call someone's release a cd because it would be released on multiple formats so you had to have a name that didn't depend on the media and so there's album - I always wonder about this actually too, it always vaguely worries me and I don't know what to do so I just call 'em albums or call 'em by name, "You should go pick up Third Option's "Cult Of Nice", it's my new album" *laugh* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Aaron Trumm NQuit (Never Never Quit) aaron@nquit.com www.nquit.com Music Available At: * http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/thirdoption * http://www.joesgrille.com/store/p-8633.html * http://thirdoption.iuma.com * http://ubl.artistdirect.com/fp2.asp?layout=artist_card&artistid=476400 * http://www.cdstreet.com/artists/nquit/ * http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005JJEY/qid%3D988850999/104-919049 6-7143939 * http://www.mp3.com/thirdoption * http://www.stationmp3.com/stationMP3/musicians/index.cfm?id=204 * http://www.musicbuilder.com/Third_Option/ * http://thirdoption.djcentral.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "- s h a r o n -" <bea@warp.nfld.net> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 5:41 AM Subject: [idm] What is an album? My partner and I have this continual disagreement: -- I say an "album" is a collection of tracks by an artist that constitute a release, in any format. (E.g. "I am totally enamoured with Funckarma's new album 'Solid State'. I recently received the CD from Forced Exposure and have been listening to it a lot since. Such beautiful colours! I no longer consider Funckarma brown." -- He says an "album" is the vinyl format of a release. (E.g. "Most of L'usine's EPs are albums, which we can't get because we don't have a turntable. But a lot of the tracks appear on A Pseudo Steady State anyway, so we might not be missing much.") Which one of us has the terminology correct? -Sharon in Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-09-24 19:01C. Twomeythe word "album" dates back to the 78 era when several vinyl discs were sold together in a

From:: C. Twomey <newpower@interlog.com>
To:: idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:01:17 -0400
Subject:: [idm] What is an album?

the word "album" dates back to the 78 era when several vinyl discs were sold together in a book like package and used in the same sense as "photo album" (a book of photographs). So your friend is right - it refers to vinyl. today a better term is "full length release." cheers CT - s h a r o n - wrote:

quoted 10 lines My partner and I have this continual disagreement:

> > My partner and I have this continual disagreement: > > -- I say an "album" is a collection of tracks by an artist that constitute a release, in any format. (E.g. "I am totally enamoured with Funckarma's new album 'Solid State'. I recently received the CD from Forced Exposure and have been listening to it a lot since. Such beautiful colours! I no longer consider Funckarma brown." > > -- He says an "album" is the vinyl format of a release. (E.g. "Most of L'usine's EPs are albums, which we can't get because we don't have a turntable. But a lot of the tracks appear on A Pseudo Steady State anyway, so we might not be missing much.") > > Which one of us has the terminology correct? > > -Sharon in Canada

--------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-09-25 18:29Kevin M. Ryan<<the word "album" dates back to the 78 era when several vinyl discs were >sold together i

From:: Kevin M. Ryan <kevinmr@uclink.berkeley.edu>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 11:29:29 -0700
Subject:: Re: [idm] What is an album?

<<the word "album" dates back to the 78 era when several vinyl discs were

quoted 3 lines sold together in a book like package and used in the same sense as

>sold together in a book like package and used in the same sense as >"photo album" (a book of photographs). So your friend is right - it >refers to vinyl. today a better term is "full length release.">>

78s are made out of glass, not vinyl. np: Lexaunculpt CDR --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-09-25 19:35Kent williamsOn Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Kevin M. Ryan wrote: > <<the word "album" dates back to the 78 era wh

From:: Kent williams <kent@avalon.net>
To:: Kevin M. Ryan <kevinmr@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:35:05 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: Re: [idm] What is an album?
Reply to:: Re: [idm] What is an album?

On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Kevin M. Ryan wrote:

quoted 7 lines <<the word "album" dates back to the 78 era when several vinyl discs were

> <<the word "album" dates back to the 78 era when several vinyl discs were > >sold together in a book like package and used in the same sense as > >"photo album" (a book of photographs). So your friend is right - it > >refers to vinyl. today a better term is "full length release.">> > > 78s are made out of glass, not vinyl. >

Huh? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-09-25 23:02Kevin M. Ryan<<> <<the word "album" dates back to the 78 era when several vinyl discs were > >sold toge

From:: Kevin M. Ryan <kevinmr@uclink.berkeley.edu>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 16:02:27 -0700
Subject:: Re: [idm] What is an album?

<<> <<the word "album" dates back to the 78 era when several vinyl discs were

quoted 6 lines sold together in a book like package and used in the same sense as

> >sold together in a book like package and used in the same sense as > >"photo album" (a book of photographs). So your friend is right - it > >refers to vinyl. today a better term is "full length release.">> > >> 78s are made out of glass, not vinyl. >

Huh?>> Okay, apparently 78s are made out of glass-like substance called shellac; I'm not sure if that's a kind of glass or not, but I heard it referred to as glass by a collector once. They shatter like glass, that's for sure. Now if you re-read the argument quoted above with that fact in mind, its flaw should be abundantly clear. For me, "album" is synonymous with "full-length," be it shellac, vinyl, plastic, or Mayan pyramid. Not to imply I give a shit about any of this semantic quibbling, but you did ask. Marge: Homer, you're not licking toads, are you? Homer: I'm not *not* licking toads. np: Radiohead OK Computer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-09-26 09:58George Williamson<<> <<the word "album" dates back to the 78 era when several vinyl discs were > > >sold to

From:: George Williamson <georgewilliamson@btinternet.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:58:41 +0100
Subject:: Re: [idm] What is an album?

<<> <<the word "album" dates back to the 78 era when several vinyl discs were

quoted 9 lines sold together in a book like package and used in the same sense as

> > >sold together in a book like package and used in the same sense as > > >"photo album" (a book of photographs). So your friend is right - it > > >refers to vinyl. today a better term is "full length release.">> > > > >> 78s are made out of glass, not vinyl. > > > Huh?>> > > Okay, apparently 78s are made out of glass-like substance called shellac;

I'm

quoted 1 line not sure if that's a kind of glass or not, but I heard it referred to as

> not sure if that's a kind of glass or not, but I heard it referred to as

glass

quoted 1 line by a collector once. They shatter like glass, that's for sure.

> by a collector once. They shatter like glass, that's for sure.

Shellac is a insect secreted resin. The "lac" insect uses it as a protective shell for its larvae. The resin is exuded on trees in India and Thailand. Lac incrustations are removed from clipped twigs and crushed, screened, and cleaned. The material then is processed into flake or powder form. The flakes or powder are compressed into 78's. So now you know. Interestingly you can dissolve 78's in alcohol and then paint furniture with them. georgewilliamson --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Re: [idm] What is an album?