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2001-09-22 16:42. m e .>Isn't there any live acts and records coming out that sound like >music? >you >know, melo

From:: . m e . <runawayslinky@hotmail.com>
To:: <sebastian@arctone.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 12:42:29 -0400
Subject:: Re: [idm] unlistenable music...

quoted 3 lines Isn't there any live acts and records coming out that sound like >music?

>Isn't there any live acts and records coming out that sound like >music? >you >know, melody, harmony...

I'd recommend reading two things, Sebastian. "Newman: The Instant" and "The Sublime and the Avant-Garde," both brief essaysby Jean-Pierre Lyotard. The former is a simple introduction to Lyotard's take on the sublime [breaking from both Burke and Kant], and the latter is a much more detailed analysis. One of his major points is that the avant-garde often forgets the possibility of nothing; in the case of music, of NO sound, NO melody, nothing figuratively digstinguishable. While many IDMers still work within those conventions you're looking for, others have realized the fact that by not PRESENTING but actually being the PRESENCE, they are exploring exciting and uncharted territory. peace m... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-09-23 10:03jean paul l'asthmegood music, destiny's child, oval, john wiese, missy elliot, or what have you, should be a

From:: jean paul l'asthme <jplasthma@yahoo.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 03:03:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: [idm] academia schmacademia (was unlistenable music)
Reply to:: Re: [idm] unlistenable music...

good music, destiny's child, oval, john wiese, missy elliot, or what have you, should be able to show you why you should like it without having to rhapsodize over it in pretentious academic tongues. i mean, i like all sorts of music, someone here made a really good point a few weeks ago-- "the difference between noise and music is intent"-- but you either like something or you don't... i don't think that you should have to read an instructional manual on how to appreciate something in order to enjoy it... gregory --- ". m e ." <runawayslinky@hotmail.com> wrote:

quoted 3 lines I'd recommend reading two things, Sebastian.

> I'd recommend reading two things, Sebastian. > "Newman: The Instant" and "The > Sublime and the Avant-Garde," both brief essaysby

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[idm] academia schmacademia (was unlistenable music)