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2001-08-26 06:00teardropb . Re: Sv: [idm] DRUKQS01
└─ 2001-08-26 15:08Kent williams Re: Sv: [idm] DRUKQS01
└─ 2001-08-26 20:31The Chisa Re: Sv: [idm] DRUKQS01
└─ 2001-08-26 22:19Pete Edwards Re: Sv: [idm] DRUKQS01
└─ 2001-08-27 21:34ugly and mean Re: Sv: [idm] DRUKQS01 (yet another file-sharing discussion...)
2001-08-27 20:37http://www.promoozz.org [idm] mp3/label [wazz drucqs01]
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2001-08-26 06:00teardropb .>There are very few people in electronic music really making a living >from it. I program
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quoted 7 lines There are very few people in electronic music really making a living>There are very few people in electronic music really making a living >from it. I program computers for a living, and I bet I make more money >than a significant percentage of the Artists on Warp. And even the >most popular artists on their artist likely make less than your dentist. > >I buy a lot of Warp releases. If you like the music you should too. I >have zero patience for something-for-nothing leeches.
that really tiked me off. its more than true, especially in the IDM scene, that ppl use the mpeg scene to get a taster for artists and then they actually support artists buy buying releases. i would not have heard of half the stuff if it was not for leech freindly portals on the net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-08-26 15:08Kent williamsOn Sun, 26 Aug 2001, teardropb . wrote: > > > >I buy a lot of Warp releases. If you like t
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2001, teardropb . wrote:
quoted 10 lines I buy a lot of Warp releases. If you like the music you should too. I> > > >I buy a lot of Warp releases. If you like the music you should too. I > >have zero patience for something-for-nothing leeches. > > that really tiked me off. > > its more than true, especially in the IDM scene, that ppl use the mpeg scene > to get a taster for artists and then they actually support artists buy > buying releases. >
I don't have a problem with that. It's like hearing things on the radio and then buying it (or not). There are loads of people who buy very few things, but have dozens of CDRs full of MP3 tracks. If people don't buy records and CDs, the record labels fold. If the record labels fold then artists can't support themselves with their music. And I reserve the right to be ticked off at people who, in general, feel like the world owes them a living, and get a big buzz out of getting over on other people. I'm not talking about YOU, or accusing anyone in particular. But y'all know who you are. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-08-26 20:31The ChisaOn Sun, 26 Aug 2001, Kent williams wrote: > I don't have a problem with that. It's like he
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Sun, 26 Aug 2001 16:31:27 -0400 (EDT)
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2001, Kent williams wrote:
quoted 3 lines I don't have a problem with that. It's like hearing things on the radio> I don't have a problem with that. It's like hearing things on the radio > and then buying it (or not). There are loads of people who buy very few > things, but have dozens of CDRs full of MP3 tracks.
When I was a kid I used to tape stuff off the radio all the time. Didn't seem to hurt the artists.
quoted 4 lines And I reserve the right to be ticked off at people who, in general, feel> And I reserve the right to be ticked off at people who, in general, feel > like the world owes them a living, and get a big buzz out of getting over > on other people. I'm not talking about YOU, or accusing anyone in particular. > But y'all know who you are.
"The world doesn't owe you anything. It was here first." -- Mark Twain That having been said: something must be said for the wonderous excesses of capitalism, and how a man can make a completely honest living - and thrive - doing absolutely nothing at all. Hell, I've been retired since I graduated high school. m@2zo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-08-26 22:19Pete Edwardshmmm, there's a big difference between you taping cindy lauper songs off of eagle 106 when
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hmmm, there's a big difference between you taping cindy lauper songs off of eagle 106 when you're a kid and 320 mp3 rips of small time releases, dontcha think? rot in hellll pete
quoted 3 lines When I was a kid I used to tape stuff off the radio> When I was a kid I used to tape stuff off the radio > all the time. Didn't > seem to hurt the artists.
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2001-08-27 21:34ugly and mean--- Pete Edwards <latah_skatah@yahoo.com> wrote: > hmmm, there's a big difference between
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--- Pete Edwards <latah_skatah@yahoo.com> wrote:
quoted 4 lines hmmm, there's a big difference between you taping> hmmm, there's a big difference between you taping > cindy lauper songs off of eagle 106 when you're a kid > and 320 mp3 rips of small time releases, dontcha > think?
Depends on how much money you have. When I was a teen, I used to make tapes from the college station whenever I had spare time because I didn't have money to buy tapes. When I found something I really liked, I went to the record store as soon as I got money for it. It was always a matter of availability and finances that kept me from buying new music. I don't have enough money to buy more than 2 or 3 cds a month, (which is still more than a lot of people I know spend on music) so I know nobody is losing money from my music listening habits. Wait, I take that back. There are artists losing money from my new music listening habits: Musicians that suck. I feel like mp3s have empowered me as a consumer to make wiser choices at the record store. No more of those weekends where I take my hard-earned money up to some record store and buy a cd by some group that got great word-of-mouth praise on this list only to go home and realize that it completely sucks. No more buying a compilation and hearing two great songs by a group, then going out and getting their CD and realizing those are the only two good songs on it. Wiser choices in the record store mean more money for the artists that I feel deserve it, therefore empowering me to empower the artist that earned my respect and love in the first place. These guys that feel like they are "getting one over on society" by collecting and sharing massive amounts of mp3s most likely wouldn't be buying music in the first place if it wasn't for file-sharing. These people are mostly into file-sharing, not music listening. These people unwittingly make money for record companies when they share music that I like enough to purchase. They are doing for free what many record labels pay a lot of money to radio stations to do: Publicize the music and spread the word. Philosophically, I hate these mooches with their T-3s and 80gb hard-drives full of albums they didn't pay for, but I've been extremely happy with the last 40 or 50 cds I've bought so far this year because of them. And as an amateur musician, I like that eventually there might be more out there like me that just like to dabble with unfamiliar music that are sitting on a respected file-sharer's hard drive. Who knows, maybe an amateur like me will develop a little group of listeners because one of my song titles caught their eye. It levels out the playing field a little bit for amateur musicians and labels like Warp that don't have the money to play the payola game in the U.S. ===== check out my station on Live365 - over 8 hours worth of early 90's chill-out, IDM, dub and more at: http://www.live365.com/stations/278479 check out my homepage at: http://www.skack.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-08-27 20:37http://www.promoozz.org<you:> I don't have a problem with that. It's like hearing things on the radio and then bu
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[idm] mp3/label [wazz drucqs01]
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<you:> I don't have a problem with that. It's like hearing things on the radio and then buying it (or not). There are loads of people who buy very few things, but have dozens of CDRs full of MP3 tracks. If people don't buy records and CDs, the record labels fold. If the record labels fold then artists can't support themselves with their music. dunno about that, i know some artizztz releasing by themselves (mostly for fun-reasonzz). No label involved... Why should an artist have to make their livin on music? Most IDM-artizztz don't. second: MP3 sux... nice to listen at while reading idm-l mailzz, but that'z that... m. (sigh wazz hopin i could write more intelligent english... but,) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org