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2001-08-16 22:36Bill [idm] Bad Orb
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2001-08-17 00:37Static Beats Re: [idm] Bad Orb
2001-08-17 00:47Resonant Sound Re: [idm] Bad Orb
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2001-08-17 00:58Static Beats Re: [idm] Bad Orb
2001-08-17 01:02lazlo Re: [idm] Bad Orb
2001-08-17 01:28Sonar Re: [idm] Bad Orb
2001-08-17 17:28Michael Stein [idm] Re: Bad Orb
2001-08-21 16:30Justin King RE: [idm] Bad Orb
2001-08-21 16:59Static Beats Re: [idm] Bad Orb
2001-08-22 02:17Jason J. Tar [idm] Bad Orb
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2001-08-16 22:36BillAnyone else checking out the Bad Orb releases? I got the first three in the mail today, he
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Anyone else checking out the Bad Orb releases? I got the first three in the mail today, here is the info on the artists from the "Certificate of Authenticity".... Bad Orb 1: S.E. Berlin (Max Loderbauer and Tom Thiel) Bad Orb 2: Ayumi Hamakai (produced by Max Matsuura , add prod and remix by Alex Paterson and Thomas Fehlmann) Bad Orb 3: Autolump (Fil LeGonidec & Pantoes Relax) Some of the tracks are pretty darn good. Who are these people? Are these aliases? According to the certificates, there were 481 copies made of bob1, 486 of bob2, and 473 of bob3 in case anyone was wondering, also a heads up--they are going to stop taking orders for the 4th on on the 21st of this month. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-08-16 22:47Bill WrightOh, also did anyone get the t-shirts? What do they look like? A picture would be great. At
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Oh, also did anyone get the t-shirts? What do they look like? A picture would be great. At 06:36 PM 8/16/2001 -0400, Bill wrote:
quoted 19 lines Anyone else checking out the Bad Orb releases? I got the first three in>Anyone else checking out the Bad Orb releases? I got the first three in >the mail today, here is the info on the artists from the "Certificate of >Authenticity".... > >Bad Orb 1: S.E. Berlin (Max Loderbauer and Tom Thiel) >Bad Orb 2: Ayumi Hamakai (produced by Max Matsuura , add prod and remix >by Alex Paterson and Thomas Fehlmann) >Bad Orb 3: Autolump (Fil LeGonidec & Pantoes Relax) > >Some of the tracks are pretty darn good. Who are these people? Are these >aliases? According to the certificates, there were 481 copies made of >bob1, 486 of bob2, and 473 of bob3 in case anyone was wondering, also a >heads up--they are going to stop taking orders for the 4th on on the 21st >of this month. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2001-08-17 00:29omz>Anyone else checking out the Bad Orb releases? I got the first >three in the mail today,
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quoted 3 lines Anyone else checking out the Bad Orb releases? I got the first>Anyone else checking out the Bad Orb releases? I got the first >three in the mail today, here is the info on the artists from the >"Certificate of Authenticity"....
Yup, just got mine yesterday. I was very impressed...the tracks are excellent. Not really very Orb-like at all. Will be ordering #4 shortly... -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-08-17 00:37Static BeatsHey, thanks for the heads-up. I wonder why I didn't get a mailout letting me know about th
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Hey, thanks for the heads-up. I wonder why I didn't get a mailout letting me know about this months' release? Weird. Anyhow, I've just ordered bob4. I got the last bobs on Tuesday. bob1-3 are very nice, ranging from minimal techno, to abstract ambient. Well recommended. The shirts are pretty cool too. If you see someone wearing one you know they are one of the lucky 481 =) I was actually pretty surprised there were so few orders. Did any of you order more than one copy (eg. for Ebay) I didn't because I'm not about to spend the extra $40 just so I can rip someone off on Ebay in 6 months from now. (not that there's anything wrong with that) Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com | Electronic Music For The Mind http://www.shimone.org | Pictures From The Soul ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill To: idm@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:36 PM Subject: [idm] Bad Orb Anyone else checking out the Bad Orb releases? I got the first three in the mail today, here is the info on the artists from the "Certificate of Authenticity".... Bad Orb 1: S.E. Berlin (Max Loderbauer and Tom Thiel) Bad Orb 2: Ayumi Hamakai (produced by Max Matsuura , add prod and remix by Alex Paterson and Thomas Fehlmann) Bad Orb 3: Autolump (Fil LeGonidec & Pantoes Relax) Some of the tracks are pretty darn good. Who are these people? Are these aliases? According to the certificates, there were 481 copies made of bob1, 486 of bob2, and 473 of bob3 in case anyone was wondering, also a heads up--they are going to stop taking orders for the 4th on on the 21st of this month.
2001-08-17 00:47Resonant SoundMy question is ... with shipping, to the US, it looks like each 12" is 4 pounds plus 4 for
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My question is ... with shipping, to the US, it looks like each 12" is 4 pounds plus 4 for shipping. That's like US$16+ for each 12". Now I'm as much of an Orb geek as the next guy, but $16 per record? I kinda feel like I could spend that $16 better on a million other things I want right now. Thoughts? C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Static Beats" <static@staticbeats.com> To: "Bill" <bill@subtr.ac> Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Bad Orb Hey, thanks for the heads-up. I wonder why I didn't get a mailout letting me know about this months' release? Weird. Anyhow, I've just ordered bob4. I got the last bobs on Tuesday. bob1-3 are very nice, ranging from minimal techno, to abstract ambient. Well recommended. The shirts are pretty cool too. If you see someone wearing one you know they are one of the lucky 481 =) I was actually pretty surprised there were so few orders. Did any of you order more than one copy (eg. for Ebay) I didn't because I'm not about to spend the extra $40 just so I can rip someone off on Ebay in 6 months from now. (not that there's anything wrong with that) Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com | Electronic Music For The Mind http://www.shimone.org | Pictures From The Soul ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill To: idm@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:36 PM Subject: [idm] Bad Orb Anyone else checking out the Bad Orb releases? I got the first three in the mail today, here is the info on the artists from the "Certificate of Authenticity".... Bad Orb 1: S.E. Berlin (Max Loderbauer and Tom Thiel) Bad Orb 2: Ayumi Hamakai (produced by Max Matsuura , add prod and remix by Alex Paterson and Thomas Fehlmann) Bad Orb 3: Autolump (Fil LeGonidec & Pantoes Relax) Some of the tracks are pretty darn good. Who are these people? Are these aliases? According to the certificates, there were 481 copies made of bob1, 486 of bob2, and 473 of bob3 in case anyone was wondering, also a heads up--they are going to stop taking orders for the 4th on on the 21st of this month. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-08-17 01:57omz>My question is ... with shipping, to the US, it looks like each 12" is 4 >pounds plus 4 f
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quoted 6 lines My question is ... with shipping, to the US, it looks like each 12" is 4>My question is ... with shipping, to the US, it looks like each 12" is 4 >pounds plus 4 for shipping. That's like US$16+ for each 12". Now I'm as >much of an Orb geek as the next guy, but $16 per record? I kinda feel like >I could spend that $16 better on a million other things I want right now. > >Thoughts?
Well, I just ordered my 4th BOB, and the total came to 8.5 pounds, roughly 12-13$ US. Yes it is a bit steep, but when you consider that less than 500 copies were pressed of the first three, it's worth it in my mind. I mean, you CAN'T get these records anywhere, and they are extremely good. If these first three hadn't impressed me I probably would have passed, but I am now hooked and will continue to support LX until he releases a shite record, which I don't see happening anytime soon. Sure you could spend the money on something else, but which one will you be able to get a month from now? You make the choice :) -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-08-17 00:58Static BeatsYeah but it's $16 for an ultra limited-edition trainspotters dream ;-) They give you a cer
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Yeah but it's $16 for an ultra limited-edition trainspotters dream ;-) They give you a certificate of authenticity and when all the orders are filled the vinyl is pressed and deleted the same day. That's pretty damn elite for all you IDM'ers out there ! Also, the music really is nice and well worth the money. Really, if you've got an extra $16 (less than a tank of gas these days - but let's not go there) then there really is no reason to pass it up. It's once in a lifetime yunno? Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com | Electronic Music For The Mind http://www.shimone.org | Pictures From The Soul ----- Original Message ----- From: Resonant Sound To: Static Beats ; Bill Cc: idm@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Bad Orb My question is ... with shipping, to the US, it looks like each 12" is 4 pounds plus 4 for shipping. That's like US$16+ for each 12". Now I'm as much of an Orb geek as the next guy, but $16 per record? I kinda feel like I could spend that $16 better on a million other things I want right now. Thoughts? C.
2001-08-17 01:02lazloDorking out: your math is a touch off. The pound is trading around $1.45, which makes each
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Dorking out: your math is a touch off. The pound is trading around $1.45, which makes each 12" around $11.60 or so. Higher than most import 12"s to be sure, but much more limited as well. laz Resonant Sound wrote:
quoted 64 lines My question is ... with shipping, to the US, it looks like each 12" is 4> My question is ... with shipping, to the US, it looks like each 12" is 4 > pounds plus 4 for shipping. That's like US$16+ for each 12". Now I'm as > much of an Orb geek as the next guy, but $16 per record? I kinda feel like > I could spend that $16 better on a million other things I want right now. > > Thoughts? > > C. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Static Beats" <static@staticbeats.com> > To: "Bill" <bill@subtr.ac> > Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 5:37 PM > Subject: Re: [idm] Bad Orb > > Hey, thanks for the heads-up. I wonder why I didn't get a mailout letting me > know about this months' release? > > Weird. Anyhow, I've just ordered bob4. > > I got the last bobs on Tuesday. > bob1-3 are very nice, ranging from minimal techno, to abstract ambient. > Well recommended. > > The shirts are pretty cool too. > If you see someone wearing one you know they are one of the lucky 481 =) > > I was actually pretty surprised there were so few orders. > Did any of you order more than one copy (eg. for Ebay) > I didn't because I'm not about to spend the extra $40 > just so I can rip someone off on Ebay in 6 months from now. > (not that there's anything wrong with that) > > Shimone/Justes > http://www.staticbeats.com | Electronic Music For The Mind > http://www.shimone.org | Pictures From The Soul > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:36 PM > Subject: [idm] Bad Orb > > Anyone else checking out the Bad Orb releases? I got the first three in > the mail today, here is the info on the artists from the "Certificate of > Authenticity".... > > Bad Orb 1: S.E. Berlin (Max Loderbauer and Tom Thiel) > Bad Orb 2: Ayumi Hamakai (produced by Max Matsuura , add prod and remix > by > Alex Paterson and Thomas Fehlmann) > Bad Orb 3: Autolump (Fil LeGonidec & Pantoes Relax) > > Some of the tracks are pretty darn good. Who are these people? Are these > aliases? According to the certificates, there were 481 copies made of > bob1, > 486 of bob2, and 473 of bob3 in case anyone was wondering, also a heads > up--they are going to stop taking orders for the 4th on on the 21st of > this > month. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2001-08-17 01:28SonarThat's not the answer I wanted. =) FUCK! There goes my milk money. ----- Original Message
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That's not the answer I wanted. =) FUCK! There goes my milk money. ----- Original Message ----- From: "lazlo" <muziq@ionet.net> To: "Resonant Sound" <lohrey@agora.rdrop.com>; <idm@Hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Bad Orb
quoted 1 line Dorking out: your math is a touch off. The pound is trading around> Dorking out: your math is a touch off. The pound is trading around
$1.45,
quoted 1 line which makes each 12" around $11.60 or so. Higher than most import 12"s to> which makes each 12" around $11.60 or so. Higher than most import 12"s to
be
quoted 8 lines sure, but much more limited as well.> sure, but much more limited as well. > > laz > > Resonant Sound wrote: > > > My question is ... with shipping, to the US, it looks like each 12" is 4 > > pounds plus 4 for shipping. That's like US$16+ for each 12". Now I'm
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quoted 1 line much of an Orb geek as the next guy, but $16 per record? I kinda feel> > much of an Orb geek as the next guy, but $16 per record? I kinda feel
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quoted 1 line I could spend that $16 better on a million other things I want right> > I could spend that $16 better on a million other things I want right
now.
quoted 13 lines Thoughts?> > > > Thoughts? > > > > C. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Static Beats" <static@staticbeats.com> > > To: "Bill" <bill@subtr.ac> > > Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 5:37 PM > > Subject: Re: [idm] Bad Orb > > > > Hey, thanks for the heads-up. I wonder why I didn't get a mailout
letting me
quoted 27 lines know about this months' release?> > know about this months' release? > > > > Weird. Anyhow, I've just ordered bob4. > > > > I got the last bobs on Tuesday. > > bob1-3 are very nice, ranging from minimal techno, to abstract ambient. > > Well recommended. > > > > The shirts are pretty cool too. > > If you see someone wearing one you know they are one of the lucky 481 =) > > > > I was actually pretty surprised there were so few orders. > > Did any of you order more than one copy (eg. for Ebay) > > I didn't because I'm not about to spend the extra $40 > > just so I can rip someone off on Ebay in 6 months from now. > > (not that there's anything wrong with that) > > > > Shimone/Justes > > http://www.staticbeats.com | Electronic Music For The Mind > > http://www.shimone.org | Pictures From The Soul > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bill > > To: idm@hyperreal.org > > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:36 PM > > Subject: [idm] Bad Orb > > > > Anyone else checking out the Bad Orb releases? I got the first three
in
quoted 1 line the mail today, here is the info on the artists from the "Certificate> > the mail today, here is the info on the artists from the "Certificate
of
quoted 4 lines Authenticity"....> > Authenticity".... > > > > Bad Orb 1: S.E. Berlin (Max Loderbauer and Tom Thiel) > > Bad Orb 2: Ayumi Hamakai (produced by Max Matsuura , add prod and
remix
quoted 5 lines by> > by > > Alex Paterson and Thomas Fehlmann) > > Bad Orb 3: Autolump (Fil LeGonidec & Pantoes Relax) > > > > Some of the tracks are pretty darn good. Who are these people? Are
these
quoted 3 lines aliases? According to the certificates, there were 481 copies made of> > aliases? According to the certificates, there were 481 copies made of > > bob1, > > 486 of bob2, and 473 of bob3 in case anyone was wondering, also a
heads
quoted 9 lines up--they are going to stop taking orders for the 4th on on the 21st of> > up--they are going to stop taking orders for the 4th on on the 21st of > > this > > month. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2001-08-17 17:28Michael Stein>Bad Orb 1: S.E. Berlin (Max Loderbauer and Tom Thiel) >Some of the tracks are pretty darn
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quoted 1 line Bad Orb 1: S.E. Berlin (Max Loderbauer and Tom Thiel)>Bad Orb 1: S.E. Berlin (Max Loderbauer and Tom Thiel)
quoted 1 line Some of the tracks are pretty darn good. Who are these people?>Some of the tracks are pretty darn good. Who are these people?
Can't speak for the other artists, but S.E. Berlin are Sun Electric. Hence the S.E. initials. -Mike --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-08-21 16:30Justin KingI ordered the first three, but the forth one badorb 4 I can't seam to order anymore. Bador
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I ordered the first three, but the forth one badorb 4 I can't seam to order anymore. Badorb 5 is available now. Justin Justin King NT - No Thanks Great music at -> http://www.mp3.com/getafixx/ -----Original Message----- From: Bill Wright [mailto:bill@subtr.ac] Sent: 16 August 2001 23:47 To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] Bad Orb Oh, also did anyone get the t-shirts? What do they look like? A picture would be great. At 06:36 PM 8/16/2001 -0400, Bill wrote:
quoted 19 lines Anyone else checking out the Bad Orb releases? I got the first three in>Anyone else checking out the Bad Orb releases? I got the first three in >the mail today, here is the info on the artists from the "Certificate of >Authenticity".... > >Bad Orb 1: S.E. Berlin (Max Loderbauer and Tom Thiel) >Bad Orb 2: Ayumi Hamakai (produced by Max Matsuura , add prod and remix >by Alex Paterson and Thomas Fehlmann) >Bad Orb 3: Autolump (Fil LeGonidec & Pantoes Relax) > >Some of the tracks are pretty darn good. Who are these people? Are these >aliases? According to the certificates, there were 481 copies made of >bob1, 486 of bob2, and 473 of bob3 in case anyone was wondering, also a >heads up--they are going to stop taking orders for the 4th on on the 21st >of this month. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2001-08-21 16:59Static BeatsFuck it. I just went ahead and ordered a subscription. Now I don't have to worry about mis
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Fuck it. I just went ahead and ordered a subscription. Now I don't have to worry about missing a month.... FYI. bob4 is no more. Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com | Electronic Music For The Mind http://www.shimone.org | Pictures From The Soul ----- Original Message ----- From: Justin King To: 'Bill Wright' Cc: 'idm@hyperreal.org' Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 9:30 AM Subject: RE: [idm] Bad Orb I ordered the first three, but the forth one badorb 4 I can't seam to order anymore. Badorb 5 is available now. Justin
2001-08-22 02:17Jason J. TarAt 08:23 PM 8/21/2001 +0000, you wrote: >I just went ahead and ordered a subscription. >No
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At 08:23 PM 8/21/2001 +0000, you wrote:
quoted 2 lines I just went ahead and ordered a subscription.>I just went ahead and ordered a subscription. >Now I don't have to worry about missing a month....
Dontcha just love how the subscription costs more per record than buying seperately??? Rather the reverse of most "subscriptions". Bother. Just gotta remember to order 'em in time. Number 5 is by Roome...whee! WWJD? _Go and Do Likewise!_ to be reviewed in this week's NME. Hopefully someone somewhere will e-mail me a copy of what they say.... JJTar. --- Peace Hugs and Unity Jason J. Tar W. W. J. D? (What would Jason Do?) ICQ@13792120 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org