From: EggyToast <youn0394@umn.edu>
quoted 1 line 1. Hanging out, seeing your friends, dancing with a large number of
> >1. Hanging out, seeing your friends, dancing with a large number of
people
quoted 4 lines at once. Always fun.
> >at once. Always fun.
>
> yeah, but this isn't dependent on the artist. This is more of the social
> venue availability than anything else.
True enough, but if someone is taking the trouble to come and play live (as
opposed to from a DAT) there's usually a bit of extra atmosphere. I imagine
I would quite enjoy a live performance from Autechre even if they did
nothing but hunch over glowing laptops pretending there was nobody there, as
compared to just listening to a DJ play their records.
quoted 1 line Plus you can't dance if they can't play a proper track (like the beat
> Plus you can't dance if they can't play a proper track (like the beat
falls apart every other bar (why
quoted 1 line would you play these tracks live?))
> would you play these tracks live?))
#include how-to-dance-to-IDM.thread
quoted 1 line I suppose if you're a total trainspotter, this would work, although
> I suppose if you're a total trainspotter, this would work, although
usually
quoted 2 lines the extra stuff isn't that special or noticeable. Usually the mixes are
> the extra stuff isn't that special or noticeable. Usually the mixes are
> longer, though, so if you dig a particular track (like Paradinas did
really
quoted 1 line long versions of the hwicci song, which is fun live) it's pretty cool.
> long versions of the hwicci song, which is fun live) it's pretty cool.
Well, I have two versions on CD of 'Vose In' (also by Ae, but it's just the
first thing that springs to mind) - recognisably the same track but quite
different versions. I'm sure you can think of many IDM tracks that involve a
few clever synth patches, a relatively simple sequence, and a lot of
knob-twiddling - different twiddles on the night might give the track a
whole new flavour.
quoted 1 line but, isn't hearing a dj mix songs differently just as cool, then?
> but, isn't hearing a dj mix songs differently just as cool, then?
Oh certainly, but I feel that hearing an artist alter their own work will
probably give some extra insight into their creative process - like perhaps
I might have always thought of the rhythm as the most important aspect of
the track, but hearing the artist impose unexpected key changes would
actually reveal that the whole thing revolves around the melody.
quoted 3 lines This is worthwhile. But even then, this is like the people that hang out
> This is worthwhile. But even then, this is like the people that hang out
> on IRC and scout for the latest tracks, regardless of whether they're any
> good or not.
Hmm, this is like the 'aaaah' thread - one *hopes* to hear good material
which will be likeable and exciting, and hearing it with a crowd of people
who share similar taste in music will make for a memorable experience. Cast
your mind back to the first good electronic parties you went to, where
probably 90% of the music might have been new to you, and how much fun that
can be. I've only been to a few IDM parties due to accidents of geogreaphy
and timing, and as it happens I've never had any party drugs at one, just a
joint or two. My first IDM party was quite, er, confusing musically - when I
arrived people seemed to be getting excited about random beatless blips and
bleeps - but as the night went on I was getting more and more excited at all
the new sounds I was hearing ( what a way to hear 'Clipper' for the first
time :-) ).
quoted 4 lines Plus what if the new stuff sucks? hehe -- that's a dumb argument from me,
> Plus what if the new stuff sucks? hehe -- that's a dumb argument from me,
> though. I just think you'd be *more* accepting of new material if the
> artist at least said "hey, here's some new shit," instead of you wondering
> "is this new? uhh.. hey is this new? maybe it's old.. hmm"
Well, I don't mind artists who are also MCs (in the sense of talking about
their stuff, not necessarily rapping), but I prefer music performances to be
totally instrumental events, I guess that's just my taste.
quoted 3 lines chatting with artists is cool. wouldn't it be cool if they appeared
> chatting with artists is cool. wouldn't it be cool if they appeared
> friendly during the show, too? like, chat to *everyone,* instead of you
> hoping they aren't as pissed at the world as they appear to be on stage?
:D
Again, I don't mind much if the artist is pretty absorbed on stage. Sure,
it's lots of fun if they are having a party along with everyone else, but I
guess a lot of it depends on how much concentration the music takes and so
on. I did a live (largely improvised) techno/trance set a couple of years
ago with someone else, and while it was enjoyable it was also very hard
work. Apart from vaguely grooving along with the beat I was just too busy
switching channels and watching mixer levels in between tweaking to do more
that glance up to see if people were still there or not :-)
(Note for would-be live performers: make sure you have a better monitor mix
than I did, and be prepared for the fact that it's almost impossible to see
the audience at night-time outdoor parties - I couldn't actually tell
whether anyone was dancing until we finished and people came over to say
they had enjoyed it. Terrifying :-) )
Anig Browl
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