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Peace, I gotta say thanks for that discography and softly chime in here..... I pulled out Electro Soma last night.....some are the tracks are just darn good, too damn good for those guys not to be making music anymore! Those of you in that London--Dover, Bristol area should head down to Smallfish and FatCat and picket, dont burn/damage the places, but let them know there are SOME out there who value what they where doing. (I'd suggest it for you Sheffield/Birmingham/Manchester blokes too, but thats a little distance to ride(2-2 1/2 hours by rail). At least you'd have a time to plan your attack:) I wonder if writing a letter to Rutter & Golding would help? Getting a petition or something......Or just begging them to rip me all of there unreleased stuff on CDr........ Thanks for the discography.....my picket sign would say "IDM hell without Redcell" :) Chow! ----- Original Message ----- From: http://www.promoozz.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 5:33 AM To: J A Cc: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: [idm] Re: B12 don't know where i ripped thizz one from... but itzz rather detailed, i guezz enjoy <knip> B12 - discog The label was setup because of the influx of UK "hardcore" and the reluctence of labels at that time to sign music that was not made up of hip hop records sampled on 45 rpm and crap one note one bar riffs. The Logo, label concept and layout were designed by M. Golding. (12", B1201, aug 1991) by Musicology . metropolis . obsessed . fear of expression . telefone 529 650 black vinyl & 300 clear vinyl Space Age EP (12", B1202, dec 1991) by 2001 . space age . rings of saturn . future bass seven . weightless condition 300 orange see-through vinyl B1203 (12", B1203, okt 1991) by As One / Future Past / Zee# . future past : dance intellect . zee# : tv people . as one : our paths meet . as one : harmony park . as one : your hand in my hand black vinyl Kirk Degiorgio under the pseudonyms As One & Future Past (first release of Kirk) Matt "Neuro Politique" Cogger as ZEE# Copyright ©1991 Third Eye Music B1204 (12", B1204, dec 1991) by Musicology . preminition . unknown future . bubbles . virtual reality all green vinyl, only 4 black ones Copyright ©1992 B12 Music (12", B1205, aug 1992) by Redcell A. active e motion B1. paradroid B2. inaneion limited deep opaque purple vinyl of 250 second release on B12 by Redcell, the first wazz B1207 tracknames appear twice on the Aside (layout trouble as thizz wazz the first release having less then 4 trax Copyright ©1992 B12 Music (12", B1206, nov 1992) by Musicology . hall of mirrors . satori . mondrin . boundries limited opaque yellow vinyl of 250 There was a second mix created of Hall of Mirrors that has only been released on the limited edition cass/CD B1209. Copyright ©1992 B12 Music (12", B1207, 1992) by Redcell . captive planet . why the reason . at the edge . soundtrack of a strange er STRICTLY limited edition (500 copies only) 150 blue transparent vinyl, red transparent vinyl &150 black vinyl 98% of B1207 was eventually sold in Europe Copyright ©1992 B12 Music (12", B1208, june 1993) by Redcell . interim . outerim . fear limited 300 white opaque vinyl third Redcell project, released together w/ Stassis (B1211) cause of an delay (same artwork/packaging so both were also released on B12CD1 + 6 new trax) Copyright ©1993 B12 Music (CD, B12CD1, august 1993) by Redcell / Stasis 1. redcell : waste lands [cektion] 2. redcell : interim 3. redcell : one thing in mind 4. redcell : soundtrack of fear 5. redcell : outerim 6. redcell : solar winds 7. stasis : point of no return 8. stasis : funky purple hotpants 9. stasis : i think it's in here 10. stasis : questions for vanmanan 11. stasis : v.c.f. 12. stasis : funky purple hotpants 13. stasis : pauls outerlude Limited pressing of 1500 copies trax 1 to 6 Written & Constructed by M.GOLDING & S.RUTTER @ the Epicentre London, England trax 7 to 13 Written & Constructed by S.PICKTON @ The OTHERWORLD all trax copyright © B12 / Mainframe Music 1993 trax 7 to 13 Licenced from Otherworld Recordings UK B1209 was originally released as a limited edition cassette. The cassette was packaged in a cardboard box measuring 210mm x 155mm x 34mm. This edition was Limited to 400 copies and due to demand was repressed as a CD for a limited run of 500. Prelude part 1 (MC/CD , B1209, 1993) by various 1. experimental music Extract from an interview at radio Metropolis Belgium 2. Redcell : Outerim Original version "Interim" taken from B1208 3. drift [outro] Original version taken from the B12 LP Electro Soma 4. question 1 Extract from an interview at radio Metropolis Belgium 5. Musicology : hall of Mirrors - mix ii Original version taken from B1206 and the B12 LP Electro Soma 6. basic Rhythm Previously Unreleased 7. cymetry [cektion] Previously Unreleased 8. question 2 Extract from an interview at radio Metropolis Belgium 9. tomorrow is Yesterday Previously Unreleased 10. we Know ! Extract from an interview at radio Metropolis Belgium 11. Musicology : telefone 529 [dub mix] Original version taken from B1201 and the B12 LP Electro Soma 12. binary Fault Previously Unreleased 13. answer Extract from an interview at radio Metropolis Belgium 14. ancient egypt Previously Unreleased 15. shadow of a former self (intro) Previously Unreleased 16. question 3 Extract from an interview at radio Metropolis Belgium 17. pantone 137 Previously Unreleased 18. cqual [intro] Original version taken from B1210 Questions by Peter Van Eynde @ Radio Metropolis Antwerp Belgium NOV 1992. all tracks copyright © B12 / Mainframe Music 1993 Tomorrow is Yesterday, Basic Rhythm, Ancient Egypt & Binary Fault : Copyright ©1993 B12 Music B1210 (12", B1210, april 1994) by Cmetric . cqual . tribeca . echo trx 314 . db5 limited flouresent pink vinyl of 950, sold in two days Copyright ©1994 B12 Music (12", B1211, june 1993) by Stasis . point of no return . funky purple hotpants . i think it's in here . questions for vanmanan limited silver vinyl B1211 represents the second ever release by Steve Pickton copyright ©1993 B12 Music / Licenced from Otherworld Recordings B1212 not released B1213abc B12 T-shirts B1214 was actually a joint release with the highly respected UK label A.R.T. The project was conceived at the end of 1994 as a single twelve inch that would contain four tracks. It grew into a pair of releases that contained 8 new unreleased tracks, 4 from each label. There were two four track twelve inch singles released, each with a B12 side and an A.R.T. side, each SIDE had a different catalogue number. The first twelve was numbered B1214.1 and ART7.1 the second was B1214.2 and ART7.2. The release date was the 28th July 1995, the artists featured were Elegy, Esoteric and Blue Binary for A.R.T. and Redcell, Cmetric and Musicology for B12 Records. (12", B1214.1, 28th july 1995) by Esoterik / Blue Binary / Redcell A.R.T. side : ART7.1 . esoterik : kwaidan . blue binary : solaris B12 side : B12.1 . redcell : infinite lites . redcell : the city [inhabited by cmetric] black vinyl (12", B1214.2, 28th july 1995) by Esoterik / Elegy / Redcell B12 side : B12.2 . redcell : climate calm . redcell : practopia A.R.T. side : ART7.2 . elegy : \p switch . esoterik : thru black vinyl, no limited edition vinyl for thizz one Copyright ©1995 B12 Music / A.R.T. Records </knip> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

--- Omar Hackett <Oways@msn.com> wrote:

quoted 4 lines I pulled out Electro Soma last night.....some are

> I pulled out Electro Soma last night.....some are > the tracks are just darn > good, too damn good for those guys not to be making > music anymore!

I really like B12's Electro-Soma, too, and Time Tourist to a lesser extent. Sometimes I think the desire to look for the next release by so-and-so should maybe be interpreted as a desire to listen to their previous work even more; often more new work is somehow disappointing simply because what we really wanted in the first place was just more of the same, which we already own. As Eggy Toast pointed out in a recent post, it's often much better to have less music, as you spend more time listening to what you have and really getting into it. I have a lot of nostalgia recently for the days when I only had a few albums, and I loved them so much. There's something wonderful about being a teenager and getting a new album for the first time in months, taking it home and holing up in your room with the headphones and falling in love with new music. When you have less music, it's more special somehow. You get more familiar with it. I remember when I could pick any album out of my collection and, listening to it, know each song and hum along with it before it even started. There's an intimacy there that I know at least I have lost in this time when I can download 5-10 new albums a night (if I wanted to). I mean, my music collection has grown to something like over 700 CDs over the past few years, and so few of them are as special to me as my much smaller collection used to be. Actually, it's been more than 800 recently, but I've been slowly culling the mediocre (to me) stuff and getting rid of it. I want my music to mean something more to me again, something more than just having what everyone else has been listening to. I'm not saying anything about the listening/buying habits of anyone else on this list, as I'm sure we all have different capacities for appreciating new stuff faster or slower than others. Some of you probably have 2000 albums and are frighteningly familiar with all of them. Anyways, bringing up B12 just brought all of that out of me because, though I only recently go Electro-Soma, it struck me as better than much of the newer "electro" or similar stuff that's been around. It made me realize that, for me at least, a lot of the fan-boy desire for new works by the artists I love just ends up in me wasting a lot of energy looking for new stuff to give me the feeling I got when listening to the old stuff, when really I should just spend more time re-listening to the old stuff. I think I stopped making sense at the first paragraph, so I'll stop now. Sorry :/ -Adam PS - Thanks to Confield, I finally got into Phthalocyanine's 25 Tracks Fer 1 Track... It's nice :) Other stuff that's been rocking my boat lately: Kettel's Dreim, Joseph Nothing's Dummy Variations, and Dykehouse's Leftovers... can't wait to d/l Dynamic Obsolescence when it comes out. Other than that, really getting to appreciate the older stuff in my collection again, like B12, Fuse, maybe some others - I'll have to keep digging. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On 18 Jul 2001, at 7:12, Adam Piontek wrote:

quoted 4 lines There's something wonderful about being a teenager and getting a

> There's something wonderful about being a teenager and getting a > new album for the first time in months, taking it home and holing > up in your room with the headphones and falling in love with new > music.

YES YES YES!!! Why doesn't that happen any more? Are we just too damn jaded and locked into the eternal quest for bigger, better, more? These days, I get new albums, and they're *nice* but somehow they never enmesh with every single cell in my body like my old music used to. I have some old vinyl dating back, ooh - 20, 25 years, that is so deeply engrained that I can imagine every crackle and surface scratch before it comes along, and if I hear a CD copy of the same album, it somehow lacks the well-worn ambience of my beloved original. I think partly this might be due to my obsession with music having become something akin to an addiction, and I'm always looking to the next fix, rather than fully enjoying the present. It's also partially a fault of the media, peddling music as a mass- market consumable. Gone is the arcane pleasure of indulgence. Cynical? You bet! I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org