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I'm planning on ordering the new Aphex single from Warp and I was thinking about ordering a Planet Mu release or two with it. I was hoping I could get a few recommendations for the best Mu release from the list. thanks in advance --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Hello Brian, Monday, July 16, 2001, 2:52:26 AM, you wrote: BMC> I'm planning on ordering the new Aphex single from Warp and I was thinking BMC> about ordering a Planet Mu release or two with it. I was hoping I could BMC> get a few recommendations for the best Mu release from the list. thanks BMC> in advance Planet Mu's records are very different, so best release depends on what music do you want to hear :) My personal favourite is Tim Tetlow's 'Beauty Walks a Razor's Edge' album, but it's not typical for Planet Mu, it would fit better into Toytronic / Neo Ouija / CCO output. Sound of Planet Mu is usually more experimental / less melodic. -- Best regards, Nick mailto:ambi@mu.ru --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 3 lines I'm planning on ordering the new Aphex single from Warp and I was thinking

>I'm planning on ordering the new Aphex single from Warp and I was thinking >about ordering a Planet Mu release or two with it. I was hoping I could >get a few recommendations for the best Mu release from the list.

Personal choices would be Leafcutter John's "Microcontact" and Slag Boom Van Loom's "So Soon" remix CD...some very strong remixes on that. Paul --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

--- Paul Lloyd <merciless@ntlworld.com> wrote:

quoted 7 lines get a few recommendations for the best Mu release

> >get a few recommendations for the best Mu release > from the list. > > Personal choices would be Leafcutter John's > "Microcontact" and Slag Boom > Van Loom's "So Soon" remix CD...some very strong > remixes on that.

I think the best stuff on P-Mu (in order of my preference) are: Capitol K - Sounds of the Empire Jega - Spectrum Capitol K - Island Row Jega - Geometry Slag Boom Van Loon - Slag Boom Van Loon [but you can't order this at WarpMart right now, so nevermind] Joseph Nothing - Dummy Variations Kid Spatula - Full Sunken Breaks Slag Boom Van Loon - So Soon And that's about it for me. Horse Opera's "3 cornered room" is ok, but mostly boring. I reckon Leafcutter John's "Concourse EEP" is pretty good, as is Electric Company's "Slow Food", but neither of them are exactly up my alley (I'm getting too old). The rest (Phthalo, Venetian, Hellfish, & Leafcutter's second release) are *really* not up my alley (I'm really getting too old...). -Adam __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Kid Spatula's - Full Sunken Beats Slag Boom Van Loom - Remixes... -i --- Paul Lloyd <merciless@ntlworld.com> wrote:

quoted 15 lines I'm planning on ordering the new Aphex single from Warp and I was thinking

> > >I'm planning on ordering the new Aphex single from Warp and I was thinking > >about ordering a Planet Mu release or two with it. I was hoping I could > >get a few recommendations for the best Mu release from the list. > > Personal choices would be Leafcutter John's "Microcontact" and Slag Boom > Van Loom's "So Soon" remix CD...some very strong remixes on that. > > Paul > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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On Sun, 15 Jul 2001, Brian M. Cass wrote:

quoted 5 lines I'm planning on ordering the new Aphex single from Warp and I was thinking

> I'm planning on ordering the new Aphex single from Warp and I was thinking > about ordering a Planet Mu release or two with it. I was hoping I could > get a few recommendations for the best Mu release from the list. thanks > in advance >

I'm really fond these days of Venetian Snares "Songs about my Cats." Matt, my record store IDM fanboy friend described it as 'a more chaotic Squarepusher mixed up with Ornette Coleman.' This is apt, and not just because of the free jazz saxaphone on 'Pouncelot'. Throughout there's a sense of real expressive abandon to it. The closest analog would be early Kid606 and 'Feed Me Wierd Things' Squarepusher, but he's not as arch as the former, and somehow looser (in the best sense) than the latter. What's refreshing about it too is that he really doesn't seem contaminated by the bloodyminded cynicisim that seems a big part of Squarepusher. He's not trying to take the piss out of anyone -- he's just writing tracks about his cats. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 1 line BMC> I'm planning on ordering the new Aphex single from Warp and I was

> BMC> I'm planning on ordering the new Aphex single from Warp and I was

thinking

quoted 1 line BMC> about ordering a Planet Mu release or two with it. I was hoping I

> BMC> about ordering a Planet Mu release or two with it. I was hoping I

could

quoted 1 line BMC> get a few recommendations for the best Mu release from the list.

> BMC> get a few recommendations for the best Mu release from the list.

thanks

quoted 7 lines BMC> in advance

> BMC> in advance > > Planet Mu's records are very different, so best release depends on what > music do you want to hear :) My personal favourite is Tim Tetlow's > 'Beauty Walks a Razor's Edge' album, but it's not typical for Planet > Mu, it would fit better into Toytronic / Neo Ouija / CCO output. > Sound of Planet Mu is usually more experimental / less melodic.

I'd disagree about the sound - most of the stuff I've gotten has been pretty melodic. I'd say either "Full Sunken Breaks" by Kid Spatula, or that first Capitol K release, if you're okay with indie rock. Not that it is indie rock, but it kinda veers off in that direction for a bit, and if you're afraid of lyrics or guitars, it might be an issue. Not that they're reall overbearing or anything, but they're there. Yes, I assholishly imagine IDM kids running screaming from records with lyrics and guitars with their hands clasped firmly over their ears screaming, "Rock is so mid 90s! This needs more DSP fuckery!" I love you all. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Hello Andrew, Monday, July 16, 2001, 3:18:50 AM, you wrote:

quoted 5 lines Planet Mu's records are very different, so best release depends on what

>> Planet Mu's records are very different, so best release depends on what >> music do you want to hear :) My personal favourite is Tim Tetlow's >> 'Beauty Walks a Razor's Edge' album, but it's not typical for Planet >> Mu, it would fit better into Toytronic / Neo Ouija / CCO output. >> Sound of Planet Mu is usually more experimental / less melodic.

AH> I'd disagree about the sound - most of the stuff I've gotten has been pretty AH> melodic. AH> I'd say either "Full Sunken Breaks" by Kid Spatula, or that first Capitol K AH> release, if you're okay with indie rock. Not that it is indie rock, but it AH> kinda veers off in that direction for a bit, and if you're afraid of lyrics AH> or guitars, it might be an issue. Not that they're reall overbearing or AH> anything, but they're there. I haven't heard Capitol K, but Kid Spatula is nice, I agree. It's got the drive and energy that much of modern IDM lacks. But when I wrote about 'less melodic planet mu sound' I was thinking about Leafcutter John, Hellfish, Venetian Snares and Phthalocyanine :) -- Best regards, Nick mailto:ambi@mu.ru --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I was writing down the recommendations and tallying which ones got the most votes, but when you mentioned lyrics on the Capitol K release I crossed it out. I didn't go so far as to run screaming with my hands over my ears, but thats mostly because I'm at work. :) On Sun, 15 Jul 2001, Andrew Hime wrote:

quoted 35 lines BMC> I'm planning on ordering the new Aphex single from Warp and I was

> > BMC> I'm planning on ordering the new Aphex single from Warp and I was > thinking > > BMC> about ordering a Planet Mu release or two with it. I was hoping I > could > > BMC> get a few recommendations for the best Mu release from the list. > thanks > > BMC> in advance > > > > Planet Mu's records are very different, so best release depends on what > > music do you want to hear :) My personal favourite is Tim Tetlow's > > 'Beauty Walks a Razor's Edge' album, but it's not typical for Planet > > Mu, it would fit better into Toytronic / Neo Ouija / CCO output. > > Sound of Planet Mu is usually more experimental / less melodic. > > I'd disagree about the sound - most of the stuff I've gotten has been pretty > melodic. > > I'd say either "Full Sunken Breaks" by Kid Spatula, or that first Capitol K > release, if you're okay with indie rock. Not that it is indie rock, but it > kinda veers off in that direction for a bit, and if you're afraid of lyrics > or guitars, it might be an issue. Not that they're reall overbearing or > anything, but they're there. > > Yes, I assholishly imagine IDM kids running screaming from records with > lyrics and guitars with their hands clasped firmly over their ears > screaming, "Rock is so mid 90s! This needs more DSP fuckery!" > > I love you all. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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Your loss; they're excellent albums. Besides, "Sounds of the Empire" has *no* lyrics, except maybe a word here or there (someone correct me if I'm forgetting some song on that album that has "real" lyrics - I really don't think there are any). And the second one, "Island Row," has maybe 2 songs with lyrics, and you can't even tell what they are for the most part. -Adam --- "Brian M. Cass" <kingmob@nmt.edu> wrote:

quoted 8 lines I was writing down the recommendations and tallying

> I was writing down the recommendations and tallying > which ones got the > most votes, but when you mentioned lyrics on the > Capitol K release I > crossed > it out. I didn't go so far as to run screaming with > my hands over my > ears, but thats mostly because I'm at work. :)

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"Brian M. Cass" wrote:

quoted 4 lines I'm planning on ordering the new Aphex single from Warp and I was thinking

> I'm planning on ordering the new Aphex single from Warp and I was thinking > about ordering a Planet Mu release or two with it. I was hoping I could > get a few recommendations for the best Mu release from the list. thanks > in advance

Right now I can't stop listening to Leafcutter John's "Microcontact" and Venetian Snares' "Songs About My Cats". The Leafcutter John is not even close to IDM, more of an abstract DSP thing. The Venetian Snares is somewhere between Richard Devine and Squarepusher. Really manic. They're both excellent. Definitely recent highlights for me, generally speaking. Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

ziq002.//JEGA - SPECTRUM - classic. a must have ziq012.//JEGA - GEOMETRY - I remember this as being quite pleasing to the ear... although I have not heard it lately - I should dig it up and give it another listen ziq025.//? ALL-STARS - CRIMINAL - well worth the $8 I paid for it... listened to it many many times, mostly play it form my friends who aren't into the scene very much or at all... ziq026.//HRVATSKI - SWARM AND DITHER - downloaded "2nd Zero Fidelity Mandible" from audio galaxy. Wow. this release is gonna kick major ass! (http://www.reckankomplex.com/discog.html) ziq027.//JOSEPH NOTHING - DUMMY VARIATIONS - "Exotic Man Walking" is a song that changed my life... can't listen to this record enough ziq041.//HELLFISH - MEAT MACHINE BROADCAST SYSTEM - heard the samples... can't wait to play it in public as to have the elderly as well as little children run away crying... ziq028.//VENETIAN SNARES + SPEEDRANCH - MAKING ORANGE THINGS - "pay me for sex" and "unborn baby" are two of vSnares most catchy tunes... I find myself singing "unborn baby" in public all too often. unborn baby, unborn baby, unbunbunborn babababababy, bababay bababaybababaybababa, babaabaybabaabyyaybabaabaybabyaabyaybababa, uuuuuuunnnnnnnnboooooorrrrrrrnnrn baaaaaabbbbyyyyyy! ziq033.//T-SHIRT - I got the mp3 of this a while ago... I can't wait to purchase my very own copy so that I can put it on my record player at 78rpm - now that is IDM! ziq??.//DOORMOUSE 12" - if you are into any or all of the above, I highly suggest checking out Dan. He has that hardcore style of vSnares, yet his over all sound is more diversified... he is much more creative and cunning in the way and what of samples. anyone else I either have not heard or consider average ... what do you think of that vSnares track off of "songs about my cats" that is pretty much a bradly's beat track with tone/pulse/whatevers over the top of it in the style of "mu-ziq-the_fear_(vsnaresremix).mp3" Sorry, I don't remember either track titles off of the top of my head and I don't have the releases in front of me... Now listening to: B.O.C. - Ballroom Blitz hope you had a memorable Friday 13th the other day... I know I did. duncan van halluciphile --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I'll gow with the two jega albums, also "Mealtime" is more than worth a listen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Square-pusher's cynicism ? It doesn't show through on any of his releases or in the interviews I've read with him. Rob ::::::Component Records::::::: Box 783, Somers, Ct 06071 www.componentrecords.com

quoted 4 lines What's refreshing about it too is that he really doesn't seem contaminated

> What's refreshing about it too is that he really doesn't seem contaminated > by the bloodyminded cynicisim that seems a big part of Squarepusher. He's > not trying to take the piss out of anyone -- he's just writing tracks about > his cats.

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On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, component wrote:

quoted 2 lines Square-pusher's cynicism ? It doesn't show through on any of his releases

> Square-pusher's cynicism ? It doesn't show through on any of his releases > or in the interviews I've read with him.

I don't think he's cynical about his own music -- he really seems to work pretty hard at it. I do think he's pretty cynical about everybody else. Not necessary a bad thing. I mean 'Red Hot Car' totally takes the piss out of the nouveau riche ostentation of the 2-step scene in the UK.

quoted 17 lines Rob

> > Rob > ::::::Component Records::::::: > Box 783, Somers, Ct 06071 > www.componentrecords.com > > > What's refreshing about it too is that he really doesn't seem contaminated > > by the bloodyminded cynicisim that seems a big part of Squarepusher. He's > > not trying to take the piss out of anyone -- he's just writing tracks about > > his cats. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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I don't think having a sense of humour and taking the piss necessarily means you're a cynic.. He also takes the piss out of drum n bass... on 'Come on my Selector' where there's a voice sample saying something like "its awroight mate, you sound like Goldie" or whatever.... Self-deprecation is not a bad trait in a musician --- Kent williams <kent@avalon.net> wrote:

quoted 41 lines On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, component wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, component wrote: > > > Square-pusher's cynicism ? It doesn't show through on any of his releases > > or in the interviews I've read with him. > > I don't think he's cynical about his own music -- he really seems to work > pretty hard at it. I do think he's pretty cynical about everybody else. Not > necessary a bad thing. I mean 'Red Hot Car' totally takes the piss out > of the nouveau riche ostentation of the 2-step scene in the UK. > > > > > Rob > > ::::::Component Records::::::: > > Box 783, Somers, Ct 06071 > > www.componentrecords.com > > > > > What's refreshing about it too is that he really doesn't seem > contaminated > > > by the bloodyminded cynicisim that seems a big part of Squarepusher. > He's > > > not trying to take the piss out of anyone -- he's just writing tracks > about > > > his cats. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > kent williams -- kent@avalon.net > http://www.cornwarning.com -- Iowa's First Techno Record Label > http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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At 01:47 PM 7/16/01 +0000, you wrote:

quoted 5 lines Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 16:52:26 -0600 (MDT)

>Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 16:52:26 -0600 (MDT) >To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >From: "Brian M. Cass" <kingmob@nmt.edu> >Subject: best planet-mu release? >Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107151651530.10187-100000@boardwalk.nmt.edu>

Phthalocyanine - 24 tracks fer 1 track --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Zavriev" <ambi@mu.ru> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [idm] best planet-mu release?

quoted 10 lines Hello Andrew,

> Hello Andrew, > > Monday, July 16, 2001, 3:18:50 AM, you wrote: > > >> Planet Mu's records are very different, so best release depends on what > >> music do you want to hear :) My personal favourite is Tim Tetlow's > >> 'Beauty Walks a Razor's Edge' album, but it's not typical for Planet > >> Mu, it would fit better into Toytronic / Neo Ouija / CCO output. > >> Sound of Planet Mu is usually more experimental / less melodic. > AH> I'd disagree about the sound - most of the stuff I've gotten has been

pretty

quoted 2 lines AH> melodic.

> AH> melodic. > AH> I'd say either "Full Sunken Breaks" by Kid Spatula, or that first

Capitol K

quoted 1 line AH> release, if you're okay with indie rock. Not that it is indie rock,

> AH> release, if you're okay with indie rock. Not that it is indie rock,

but it

quoted 1 line AH> kinda veers off in that direction for a bit, and if you're afraid of

> AH> kinda veers off in that direction for a bit, and if you're afraid of

lyrics

quoted 1 line AH> or guitars, it might be an issue. Not that they're reall overbearing

> AH> or guitars, it might be an issue. Not that they're reall overbearing

or

quoted 6 lines AH> anything, but they're there.

> AH> anything, but they're there. > > I haven't heard Capitol K, but Kid Spatula is nice, I agree. It's got > the drive and energy that much of modern IDM lacks. But when I wrote > about 'less melodic planet mu sound' I was thinking about Leafcutter > John, Hellfish, Venetian Snares and Phthalocyanine :)

The kid spatula is great if you like µ-ziq, as it does, in my opinion, sound very much like a remix album of his other stuff, and you often hear hints of melodies and beats from other tracks of his (and mr james, see that "full sunken breaks" is reminicent of "the garden of linmiri") loads of nice tunes. It also holds a feeling of a nice sort of compilation of the various sounds of planet µ, going from the nicely melodic tim tetlow style "nordy" and "another fresh style", to the frenzied hardcore hellfish sounds of "hard love" and "xxx", to the just plainly wacky sounds like "hill street blues". Lovely. Venetian snares is also very good. georgewilliamson --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 3 lines From: multsanta <multsanta@home.net>

>From: multsanta <multsanta@home.net> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Phthalocyanine - 24 tracks fer 1 track

venetian snares and o9. i especially like o9's other tunes a lot and would recomend it to gimmik fans as for venetian sanres..... B R E A K C O R E shall never die !!!! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org