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[idm] Re: stop the flaming and talk about colors

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2001-06-08 00:42Ed Hall Re: [idm] IDM - Intelligence vs Emotion
2001-06-08 05:22philippe petit [idm] Re: stop the flaming and talk about colors
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2001-06-08 00:42Ed HallI'm sorry, you must want the "EDM" (Emotional Dance Music) list, down the stairs and to yo
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Re: [idm] IDM - Intelligence vs Emotion
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I'm sorry, you must want the "EDM" (Emotional Dance Music) list, down the stairs and to your left. More seriously, the very premise of a conflict between "Intelligence vs Emotion" is wrong on so many levels that I don't think useful argument is possible. First, because dividing them into a duality is wholly artificial; they are but two culturally-defined regions in the multidimensional space of human experience. Second, even as conventionally defined there is an enormous overlap between the two spheres. Third, the interplay between them (and the rest) is so individual that arguing about them is even more pointless than arguing over ones experience of the color "red" vs that of the color "blue." I could go on, but I think my point is made. Perhaps it's just because there is more adolescent angst here than this (relatively) old man is used to, but there sure seems to be a lot of folks out to buttress their own sense of self-worth by throwing up challenges such as this, pitting their world-view against those who might see things differently. It doesn't work. Trust me; such attempts to "enlighten" form a hollow goal. -Ed --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-08 05:22philippe petit> Third, the interplay between them (and the rest) is so > individual that arguing about t
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[idm] Re: stop the flaming and talk about colors
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quoted 4 lines Third, the interplay between them (and the rest) is so> Third, the interplay between them (and the rest) is so > individual that arguing about them is even more pointless than arguing > > over ones experience of the color "red" vs that of the color "blue."
good morning, indeed might be time to talk about colors... I strongly recommend that record by Ken Nordine. He determined a personnality for 54 colors, and share a short story, anecdote on each one. Essential, if you listen to it before sleeping you'll dream in colour... talking about sleep, dreams, lately I have also listened again and again to "the narcoleptic symphony" and it ages really well. A very good album. have a nice day philippe http://www.bip-hop.com ambient landscapes, creative and melodic musica... SPACEHADS and MAX EASTLEY : the time of the ancient astronaut [bleep 04] Spaceheads have teamed up with Max Eastley, who wields The Arc (an electric acoustic monochord), and done just that -- removed the motorik syncopated driving beats and replaced them with shimmering cymbals and small percussive gestures and squiggles, while extending the trumpet into neverendingly evocative chilled-out washes of pure vibratoless horn. Although I am not quite sure what the monochord looks like or how it works, it sounds much like an early analogue moog synth, erupting in wails at times hellish and chaotic, at times placid and harmonious. An ambient record. Relaxing yet with an undercurrent that will unsettle you in a good way.
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--------------------------------------------------------------------- The superb Spaceheads expand to a trio with the addition of sound sculptor and instrument inventor Max Eastley. Their recording, starts with a distantly eerie set of music with soaring trumpet, drums in irregular march and Eastley's 'Arc' (an electroacoustic monochord) imitating an out-of-tune violin for the feel of a soundtrack to a particularly grim part of a '60s Biblical epic. Though recorded as one long piece, they've thoughtfully indexed the CD into 'songs' or sections as the sounds change. Andy Diagram's trumpet flutters like a voice in tremolo, other times filling the space with impossibly long notes (he blows then expands the sound beyond the temporal range of human breath). Richard Harrison's work is far more detailed than his usual sensitive funk, mostly altered bowed and scraped and bent metal. Eastley dances in slow curlicues around them both (at least I think that's him). Very, very nice.
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