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i saw this in the weekend section of the post while at work. it's always fun to read what people who have no idea what they're writing about have to say about music: "For Autechre, making music that sounds odd is no longer enough; now the Manchester duo crafts its music to sound wrong. Originally, Autechre-ists Ron Brown and Sean Booth were stalwarts of "intelligent techno" -- electronic dance music that you can't dance to, basically. But over the course of five albums and nine EPs -- some of them longer than most albums -- their style has shifted from smooth and pulsing to ragged and fidgety. "The twosome's new "Confield" is a symphony of seemingly malfunctioning beats. The relatively lyrical "Vl Scose Poise" variously suggests rain hitting a tin roof, a gamelan orchestra tumbling down a hill and a skipping CD player. Actually, all nine compositions have passages that suggest a skipping CD player; in Autechre's music, drum'n'bass's skittering beats sometimes go utterly haywire. Like drum'n'bass, "Confield" has a kinship with Indian classical music: Autechre simultaneously maintains and subverts the rhythm, much as a tabla player does. There's a method to playing the tabla, however, while Autechre clearly prefers the madness of distorted timbres and percussive convulsions." -- Mark Jenkins from http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A71093-2001May24.html without permission... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 4 lines In your view, only a handfull of people know enough about Autechre

> In your view, only a handfull of people know enough about Autechre >to be able to write a review ... and that not a good thing; >I sure that the reviewer must have more experience in music than I >suspect and he knows way more about it than you and me.

actually, i was referring more to how the reviewer refers to rob brown as "ron", mentions autechre's FIVE (not six) albums, and calls their music drum & bass. all i'm saying is if you're going to write a review in a large newspaper, at least get the facts right. btw, i hope english isn't your first language; your grammar is terrible. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 11:07 AM 5/25/01, you wrote:

quoted 7 lines In your view, only a handfull of people know enough about Autechre

>> In your view, only a handfull of people know enough about Autechre >>to be able to write a review ... and that not a good thing; >>I sure that the reviewer must have more experience in music than I >>suspect and he knows way more about it than you and me. > >actually, i was referring more to how the reviewer refers to rob brown as >"ron",

Possibly a typo. I've made similar mistakes in reviews and articles myself where I knew a lot about the band I was writing about.

quoted 1 line mentions autechre's FIVE (not six) albums,

>mentions autechre's FIVE (not six) albums,

He's referring to the five albums they released previous to Confield.

quoted 1 line and calls their music drum & bass.

> and calls their music drum & bass.

No, he doesn't. The exact quote is: "Like drum'n'bass, "Confield" has a kinship with Indian classical music..." He's simply using it as a point of reference, not a genre description.

quoted 2 lines all i'm saying is if you're going to write a review in a large newspaper,

>all i'm saying is if you're going to write a review in a large newspaper, >at least get the facts right.

In my opinion, this was probably one of the best IDM-related reviews I've ever seen from the mainstream media (aside from the reviews that Ben Rayner writes for the Toronto Star, 'cause he's a huge techno/electronic music fan). Aside from spelling Brown's name wrong, I saw nothing glaringly wrong or ignorant in the review. In fact, I wouldn't be suprised to find out that the review is actually an IDM fan in "real life".

quoted 1 line btw, i hope english isn't your first language; your grammar is terrible.

>btw, i hope english isn't your first language; your grammar is terrible.

OK, this was uncalled for. No need to be a fucking asshole because he doesn't agree with you. Perhaps I should insult you because you don't seem to know how to capitalize you sentances? Greg --- Greg Clow - greg@stainedproductions.com - greg@feedbackmonitor.com concert & event promotions - http://www.stainedproductions.com electronic music radio/reviews/interviews - http://www.feedbackmonitor.com 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor - Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 - Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Yea... I kinda agree with Jeff here. I sort of got the feeling that most of the reviewer's Autechre knowledge had come from some PR blurb he read right before writing the review. The part about some of the EP's being longer than full lengths? Obviously its referring to EP7, but there isn't more than one "EP" following this practice. I didn't even think EP7 was really considered an EP. Anyway, I think the comparison of Indian classical music to drum'n'bass was laughable. Subverting the rhythm? I wasn't aware that was the key to d'n'b, much less THE integral part of Indian classical music. Ok... thats enough from me. -Aaron

quoted 23 lines In your view, only a handfull of people know enough about Autechre

> > > In your view, only a handfull of people know enough about Autechre > >to be able to write a review ... and that not a good thing; > >I sure that the reviewer must have more experience in music than I > >suspect and he knows way more about it than you and me. > > actually, i was referring more to how the reviewer refers to rob > brown as > "ron", mentions autechre's FIVE (not six) albums, and calls their > music > drum & bass. all i'm saying is if you're going to write a review > in a > large newspaper, at least get the facts right. btw, i hope english > isn't > your first language; your grammar is terrible. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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