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2001-04-26 23:26under the radar Re: [idm] idm'er, the rare breed? or not?
└─ 2001-04-28 09:13Peter Schrock Re: [idm] idm'er, the rare breed? or not?
└─ 2001-04-28 16:14Erica A. Mitchell Re(2): [idm] idm'er, the rare breed? or not?
└─ 2001-04-28 20:46Peter Schrock Re: Re(2): [idm] idm'er, the rare breed? or not?
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2001-04-26 23:26under the radarYeah, I have to agree on this point. In the SF Bay area, the whole IDM thing came directly
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Yeah, I have to agree on this point. In the SF Bay area, the whole IDM thing came directly from parties in the early 90's. It's kind of coming full circle again, at least with the more IDM-ish parties, but it's very true the rave scene and IDM scene are very separate. The IDM scene here is pretty mixed with the indie rock people, which I personally think is a good thing. I'm kind of over the whole "rave" thing anyway. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephen(of Zygote) > http://www.undertheradar.net
quoted 47 lines From: atomly <atomly@atomly.com>>From: atomly <atomly@atomly.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] idm'er, the rare breed? or not? >Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:38:55 -0500 > >[EggyToast <youn0394@umn.edu>] > > idm started as an armchair genre. That's why there's so much growing >pains > > about playing live now :D > >I disagree, and this is a misconception that kind of gets to me... I >think IDM turned into an armchair genre, and I think that's why I don't >like it anymore. > >The early IDM was all dance-oriented and played at Raves. Aphex was >playin raves in the US in 93 and Autechre was in like 95 or so... > >I don't know how many people on this list have been raving for a long >time, but ambient rooms were common place and people danced to things >like Aphex, the Orb, Orbital, etc. > >The second wave of IDM took this and completely removed it from rave >culture and started to somehow think that they were above rave culture >in some way. The third wave is kind of refreshing in that they're >knocking down the stuffiness, but they're still anti-rave for some >reason. Lesser even admitted in an interview that he's never been to an >interview (the article is on his site). > >This somewhat ties in with what somebody said earlier about liking >Autechre but not liking Miami Bass... In the same way it annoys me when >people talk about stuff like Squarepusher or Aphex and won't pay any >respect to jungle, techno, house or even most jazz fusion. > >It really annoys me that IDM is almost no longer welcome at raves. I've >only gotten to play a few because they're so divorced, but it's >seriously great when it works out. > >-- >:: atomly :: > >atomly@atomly.com | atomly@atdot.org | atomly@curiousnetworks.com >http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-04-28 09:13Peter SchrockIt seems to me like raves are about going to dance to good music. Where IDM has focused le
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It seems to me like raves are about going to dance to good music. Where IDM has focused less on the dancing aspect and focused more on the creative process of writting the music. Incorporating a different type of feeling that easily matches that of the "indie" scene. I personally am not really to thrilled nor am I against either scene, they have a purpose and they serve them well. I like to see bands play, not necessarily to shake my booty to, but just to see the production of music. I like to see what it is that makes these artists tick. I have noticed that those who go to raves don't really go to see the artist, but if they do, it is for different reasons why someone would want to go see autechre or aphex. I mean, come on, do you really think you can dance to it? Maybe the genre should be changed to IM vs IDM. Too me, IDM has become listening music vs dancing music. on 4/26/01 3:26 PM, under the radar at analog_life@hotmail.com wrote:
quoted 9 lines Yeah, I have to agree on this point. In the SF Bay area, the whole IDM thing> > Yeah, I have to agree on this point. In the SF Bay area, the whole IDM thing > came directly from parties in the early 90's. It's kind of coming full > circle again, at least with the more IDM-ish parties, but it's very true the > rave scene and IDM scene are very separate. > > The IDM scene here is pretty mixed with the indie rock people, which I > personally think is a good thing. I'm kind of over the whole "rave" thing > anyway.
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2001-04-28 16:14Erica A. Mitchellpachinko74@mac.com writes: >It seems to me like raves are about going to dance to good mus
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pachinko74@mac.com writes:
quoted 11 lines It seems to me like raves are about going to dance to good music. Where>It seems to me like raves are about going to dance to good music. Where >IDM has focused less on the dancing aspect and focused more on the >creative >process of writting the music. >I have noticed that those who go to raves don't really go to see the >artist, >but if they do, it is for different reasons why someone would want to go >see >autechre or aphex. Maybe the genre should be changed to IM vs IDM. >Too me, IDM has >become listening music vs dancing music.
werd werd you have hit the nail on the head. i go to parties about once a month to see the artist, but i have to confess, most ppl don't. seein as how i go clean, not for pill poppin, -- and go to dance and see ltj bukem or dj hype or mickey finn or any other jungle dj i like - that makes me quite different from a decent number of party kids. on the other hand: when i saw dj spooky (dunno if you'd consider him idm but file under futurism i think is totally idm) a few wks ago, i was quite disappointed cuz the show was so disjointed and he just basically was cuttin and droppin too much for ANYONE to be able to dance to his stuff. i dunno when i go to a show i like to have somethin to do with my body... erica --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-04-28 20:46Peter SchrockI have heard many classify him as "illbient", but I know what you mean by him being legiti
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I have heard many classify him as "illbient", but I know what you mean by him being legitimate for IDM. on 4/28/01 8:14 AM, Erica A. Mitchell at eamitch@learnlink.emory.edu wrote:
quoted 2 lines (dunno if you'd consider him idm> (dunno if you'd consider him idm > but file under futurism i think is totally idm)
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