Veering off-topic...check the bottom of this e-mail for actual IDM
content...
quoted 3 lines At least this is a legitimate gripe. It seems to me that all Cycling 74
> At least this is a legitimate gripe. It seems to me that all Cycling 74
> does is package and resell a product that is already in the public domain,
> namely PD.
Actually, that's incorrect. From Cycling74's site:
<blockquote site="
http://www.cycling74.com/products/max.html">
A little historical information: Max was originally developed at
IRCAM, a music research institute in Paris, France, by Miller
Puckette. Max is named for Max Mathews, a pioneer of computer
music who worked with Miller Puckette in developing a scheduling
algorithm similar to that used in the software. Max was further
developed for commercial release by David Zicarelli and
published by Opcode Systems until 1999. Cycling '74, founded by
Zicarelli in 1997, has been developing and supporting Max and is
now its exclusive publisher.
</blockquote>
C74's own site clearly explains the origins of Max, so why would you
make the assumption that they're trying to pull a fast one?
Now as for the claim that they add no value - I'd say that's pretty
ignorant. I've had Max/MSP for about a month now, and even with my
limited exposure, I've been pretty overwhelmed by the quality of
documentation, the completeness of objects, and the overall power of the
package.
quoted 3 lines Apparently from the link, one of their few *actual*
> Apparently from the link, one of their few *actual*
> contributions, NATO, seems to actually have been ripped off of
> NN.
NATO has nothing to do with Cycling '74 except that NATO extends Max's
capabilities.
quoted 6 lines Cycling has been announcing a PC version of Max/MSP for quite some
> Cycling has been announcing a PC version of Max/MSP for quite some
> time as well (a year at least?), and pushed back their original 2nd
> quarter release time, so why shouldn't be a consumer be angry?
> They're
> charging a lot for product developed by other individuals and public
> money. Sounds pretty fishy to me, IMHO.
Hey, I'd rather have a working, bug-free PC version of software than a
rushed-to-market rework that's full of bugs.
I don't mean to come off as a C74 apologist, and I don't work for them,
but I also don't like seeing decent small companies with a great product
get slandered.
Now, for the actual IDM content:
Hrvatski was right - the new Prefuse73 is great from the MP3s I've
heard. I'll be buying it as soon as it's out (on May 14, according to
the Warp site).
Cheers,
Bill
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