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2001-04-11 01:17Blioux .o0O(Robot_in_Disguise)O0o.check mamalala.de for the story . _ . .o0(_)0o. . . ____________________________________

From:: Blioux .o0O(Robot_in_Disguise)O0o. <blioux@hotmail.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:17:11 -0400
Subject:: [idm] fuck cycling74...

check mamalala.de for the story . _ . .o0(_)0o. . . _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-04-12 21:25Lee Azzarelloon 4/10/01 6:17 PM, Blioux .o0O(Robot_in_Disguise)O0o. at blioux@hotmail.com wrote: > chec

From:: Lee Azzarello <roswell@alumni.antioch-college.edu>
To:: IDM list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:25:07 -0700
Subject:: Re: [idm] fuck cycling74...
Reply to:: [idm] fuck cycling74...

on 4/10/01 6:17 PM, Blioux .o0O(Robot_in_Disguise)O0o. at blioux@hotmail.com wrote:

quoted 1 line check mamalala.de for the story

> check mamalala.de for the story

This person has never used jMax. If he had, he wouldn't speak so highly of it. Young, naive but down with the software kids, -------------------- -l[e^2] *new { ^this.shouldNotImplement(thisMethod) } --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-04-11 04:56Static Beatsright. except jMax is for linux. and cycling 74's products are for mac. so my point is fuc

From:: Static Beats <static@staticbeats.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:56:21 -0700
Subject:: Re: [idm] fuck cycling74...

right. except jMax is for linux. and cycling 74's products are for mac. so my point is fuck 'em both. go rebirth ! LOL Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com Electronic Music For The Mind ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blioux .o0O(Robot_in_Disguise)O0o." <blioux@hotmail.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 6:17 PM Subject: [idm] fuck cycling74...

quoted 2 lines check mamalala.de for the story

> check mamalala.de for the story >

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2001-04-11 05:49Christopher SorgHuh? Do you even know what Max/MSP does? It is a modular system that can do Rebirth + 1 mi

From:: Christopher Sorg <csorg@enteract.com>
To:: Static Beats <static@staticbeats.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:49:33 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: Re: [idm] fuck cycling74...
Reply to:: Re: [idm] fuck cycling74...

Huh? Do you even know what Max/MSP does? It is a modular system that can do Rebirth + 1 million other things. More like go Reaktor!, only even then you don't get NATO... Perhaps if one can get PD running fairly stable without crashing. _________________________ Christopher Sorg Multimedia Artist/Teacher http://csorg.cjb.net csorg@enteract.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-04-11 17:36Brian MacDonaldGot PD running on my system here at work using Windows 2000. Very very nice.... for someth

From:: Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 10:36:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: Re: [idm] fuck cycling74...
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Got PD running on my system here at work using Windows 2000. Very very nice.... for something that's practically beta-freeware, surely. I haven't used it extensively (as in, left it running for hours) to know how stable or robust it really is, but it survives long enough to get some great use (i.e. render some wave files) out of it. Though I imagine it's tough to use unless you have some programming language/math/sound background in school. I just like the fact that they named an object "moses" :) (Maybe this was a hand-me-down from Max) Ultimately though, there's just no substitution for just using C/C++ to make a program to process sound for you... though something like Max or PD is a helpful to test out some mathematical ideas beforehand. ======================================================================= Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> "Capital punishment turns the state into a murderer. But imprisonment turns the state into a gay dungeon-master." -- Emo Philips ======================================================================= On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Christopher Sorg wrote:

quoted 15 lines Perhaps if one can get PD running fairly stable without crashing.

> Perhaps if one can get PD running fairly stable without crashing. > > _________________________ > Christopher Sorg > Multimedia Artist/Teacher > http://csorg.cjb.net > csorg@enteract.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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2001-04-11 18:40Static BeatsYeah I know. It was just a joke - hence the LOL. People have made some really negative com

From:: Static Beats <static@staticbeats.com>
To:: Christopher Sorg <csorg@enteract.com>, <godpup@ix.netcom.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:40:58 -0700
Subject:: Re: [idm] fuck cycling74...

Yeah I know. It was just a joke - hence the LOL. People have made some really negative comments about Rebirth here in the past so I thought it would be funny to say "Go Rebirth" as it was sure to get a lot of people inflamed before realizing I was kidding. I was annoyed at the "fuck cycling 74" comment with a link to some linux-only software. The comment and the link did not go together very well. In reading further posts this afternoon it appears that the comment was more directed at something Cycling 74 *did* and not their software or chosen platform. Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com Electronic Music For The Mind ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher Sorg <csorg@enteract.com> To: Static Beats <static@staticbeats.com> Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [idm] fuck cycling74...

quoted 5 lines Huh? Do you even know what Max/MSP does? It is a modular system that

> Huh? Do you even know what Max/MSP does? It is a modular system that > can do Rebirth + 1 million other things. More like go Reaktor!, only even > then you don't get NATO... > > Perhaps if one can get PD running fairly stable without crashing.

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2001-04-11 19:04Christopher Sorg> Yeah I know. It was just a joke - hence the LOL. > People have made some really negative

From:: Christopher Sorg <csorg@enteract.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 14:04:17 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: Re: [idm] fuck cycling74...
Reply to:: Re: [idm] fuck cycling74...

quoted 4 lines Yeah I know. It was just a joke - hence the LOL.

> Yeah I know. It was just a joke - hence the LOL. > People have made some really negative comments about Rebirth here in the > past so I thought it would be funny to say "Go Rebirth" as it was sure to > get a lot of people inflamed before realizing I was kidding.

Well, considering I've only been on this list for about a week, I wouldn't know that. I would consider intentially starting a flame war pretty much childish and at the very least a waste of my time. I thought I'd learn something new, have some interesting discussions, etc, etc. I'll be sure and avoid being bated by moronic comments in the future.

quoted 5 lines I was annoyed at the "fuck cycling 74" comment with a link to some

> I was annoyed at the "fuck cycling 74" comment with a link to some > linux-only software. The comment and the link did not go together very well. > In reading further posts this afternoon it appears that the comment was more > directed at something Cycling 74 *did* and not their software or chosen > platform.

At least this is a legitimate gripe. It seems to me that all Cycling 74 does is package and resell a product that is already in the public domain, namely PD. Apparently from the link, one of their few *actual* contributions, NATO, seems to actually have been ripped off of NN. Cycling has been announcing a PC version of Max/MSP for quite some time as well (a year at least?), and pushed back their original 2nd quarter release time, so why shouldn't be a consumer be angry? They're charging a lot for product developed by other individuals and public money. Sounds pretty fishy to me, IMHO.

quoted 25 lines Shimone/Justes

> Shimone/Justes > http://www.staticbeats.com > Electronic Music For The Mind > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Christopher Sorg <csorg@enteract.com> > To: Static Beats <static@staticbeats.com> > Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 10:49 PM > Subject: Re: [idm] fuck cycling74... > > > > Huh? Do you even know what Max/MSP does? It is a modular system that > > can do Rebirth + 1 million other things. More like go Reaktor!, only even > > then you don't get NATO... > > > > Perhaps if one can get PD running fairly stable without crashing. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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2001-04-11 19:52Static Beats> Well, considering I've only been on this list for about a week, I wouldn't > know that.

From:: Static Beats <static@staticbeats.com>
To:: Christopher Sorg <csorg@enteract.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:52:28 -0700
Subject:: Re: [idm] fuck cycling74... (now OT)

quoted 5 lines Well, considering I've only been on this list for about a week, I wouldn't

> Well, considering I've only been on this list for about a week, I wouldn't > know that. I would consider intentially starting a flame war pretty much > childish and at the very least a waste of my time. I thought I'd learn > something new, have some interesting discussions, etc, etc. I'll be sure > and avoid being bated by moronic comments in the future.

Well if you look at the thread a little closer you will notice that *no one* actually took the Rebirth bait. It was just an inside joke to loosen up some of the tension from the recent other threads that have turned into flame wars. Being as you've only been on the list for a week I'm sure in the coming weeks and months you will find plenty of things that will waste your time. That in it of itself is a topic that comes up on the list often as well - "Damn this list/thread/topic is a waste of time - and the name IDM is so misleading". I would highly, highly recommend you heed your own advice and "be sure and avoid being bated by moronic comments in the future". This is a common list practice and stems (imo) really from the multitude of people and personalities of the many subscribers on this list throughout the world. Some people have a crude sense of humor, others are just cynics and some (who's email addy's are now in my block list) do nothing else but piss *everyone* off on this list. There are plenty of posts from people with no other purpose but to annoy others. More often than not they are inside jokes (one most recent example would be from one poster who mentioned his favorite autechre album as being Amber - this may indeed be the case but since so many people recently mentioned their dislike for the album it is blatant flame-bait. Or how about Cex's recent post about how he's just the best thing since sliced bread - if you didn't read any of his posts from the past you just wouldn't get his wry sense of humor) So, take it easy, hang in there and get from the list what it really has to offer - constant updates of what's new in the world of IDM. Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com Electronic Music For The Mind --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Re: [idm] fuck cycling74... (now OT)