<<which DSP systems do you use? anyone working outside the subtrative,
additive (70's)/sampler (80's)/granular (90's)? these ways to generate
sounds are not really new, we just find some ways to apply them>>
I am working outside the additive, subtractive, etc...etc.. with Kyma . It
does all these types of synthesis, and many more new types. and best of
all, you can combine any of these types of synthesis to create a new type of
your own. It is quite infinate, and you are not stuck with your standard
"analog modeling" controls.
I am surprised only Atom Heart and Autechre have caught on to this
technology(forgive me if I am forgetting anyone), but it definately shows in
thier music. And is a godsend for live use, and has the ULTIMATE realtime
control capabilities!
~swamay~
www.mp3.com/swamay
www.swamay.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Medeiros" <igormpc@hotmail.com>
To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: [idm] What do you expect from IDM musicians on stage?
quoted 3 lines some comments:
> some comments:
>
> i don't mind if the sound is coming from a laptop or aquoted 1 line but I like to HEAR the music in constant changing... I can put 200
> but I like to HEAR the music in constant changing... I can put 200quoted 9 lines patterns on a sequencer and just change them in realtime... or I can set a
> patterns on a sequencer and just change them in realtime... or I can set a
> audio app to change them in realtime while I drink a coffee (or twist a
> knob)...
>
> aiff/wav files or cds are crap. you just can't change them in realtime...
> ok, you can, but like a dj with a fx processor. but the basic material is
> there, unchanged.
>
> idm on stage is the same as any music on stage... but I just don't likequoted 4 lines idea of the Italian archetype of stage where the artist is looked by some
> idea of the Italian archetype of stage where the artist is looked by some
> people and try to entertaint them...
>
> I like the idea of self-generated music where the artist just can'tquoted 3 lines everything... like playing on a band and you just can't say to the bass
> everything... like playing on a band and you just can't say to the bass
> player "play it louder!"... but we can control in realtime some aspects of
> the sound, and i'm not talking about that filter sweep on trance music...quoted 2 lines just don't like repetitive music... if i put a cd and use a effect to
> just don't like repetitive music... if i put a cd and use a effect to
> changing it on the fly i feel nothing because the source isn't changingquoted 2 lines know?... cd is a static media. it's finished. If i ask my drum machine to
> know?... cd is a static media. it's finished. If i ask my drum machine to
> random change its pattern, program patterns waiting this random change,quoted 10 lines mess with it live. if you can do it, and people still dance, it's ok. if
> mess with it live. if you can do it, and people still dance, it's ok. if
> they can't, it's ok also.
>
> quantization is not a problem. any good software can extract groove
> patterns, copy it to your lines and apply random changes to them (5% it's
> fine? ). in realtime.
>
> "real" instruments are old history.
>
> analog modeling is just one principle, you can use it or not, if youquoted 1 line but it's better. and there isn't 'an analog modeling sound' as there i
> but it's better. and there isn't 'an analog modeling sound' as there isn'tquoted 28 lines 'kyma' sound. or a programmer sound. there is BAD musicians.
> 'kyma' sound. or a programmer sound. there is BAD musicians.
>
> which DSP systems do you use? anyone working outside the subtrative,
> additive (70's)/sampler (80's)/granular (90's)? these ways to generate
> sounds are not really new, we just find some ways to apply them.
>
>
> i like visuals. not all the time.
>
>
> >In my defense... I never said sound design, synth composition or
> performance were not legitimate art forms... I think they are great!
> maybe just not suited to live performance outside of the "artsy" IDM
> scene.....
>
> one of the most prejudice comments i've heard on this list.
>
> >but I do need
> to have the feeling that SOMETHING NEW is being created, right there, or
> that something is being enacted.
>
> oh, that italian stage again...
> hey boys, nothing NEW IS CREATED! there's no mystical experience on stage!
> we just put your computers to work and try to impress ourselves.
>
> and IT'S NOT ENTERTAINMENT!
>
> >if you are "expecting" to be given a show... then you should slapquoted 4 lines right now. i thought the beauty of electonic music parties was to destroy
> right now. i thought the beauty of electonic music parties was to destroy
> the boundaries between crowd and entertainer. if you're "expecting"
> anything from any situation, other than the obvious... you might as well
> just throw in the towel and come home after your nine to five corporatequoted 17 lines and turn on nbc's must see TV and say you got your dose of entertainment.
> and turn on nbc's must see TV and say you got your dose of entertainment.
>
> good comment, zac.
>
> live experimentation is great.
> sound design live is great.
> unexpected errors live are great.
>
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