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Re: [idm] What do you expect from IDM musicians on stage?

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2001-04-10 12:13Igor Medeiros Re: [idm] What do you expect from IDM musicians on stage?
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2001-04-10 12:13Igor Medeirossome comments: i don't mind if the sound is coming from a laptop or a sampler/sequencer...
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Re: [idm] What do you expect from IDM musicians on stage?
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some comments: i don't mind if the sound is coming from a laptop or a sampler/sequencer... but I like to HEAR the music in constant changing... I can put 200 different patterns on a sequencer and just change them in realtime... or I can set a audio app to change them in realtime while I drink a coffee (or twist a knob)... aiff/wav files or cds are crap. you just can't change them in realtime... ok, you can, but like a dj with a fx processor. but the basic material is there, unchanged. idm on stage is the same as any music on stage... but I just don't like the idea of the Italian archetype of stage where the artist is looked by some people and try to entertaint them... I like the idea of self-generated music where the artist just can't control everything... like playing on a band and you just can't say to the bass player "play it louder!"... but we can control in realtime some aspects of the sound, and i'm not talking about that filter sweep on trance music... i just don't like repetitive music... if i put a cd and use a effect to changing it on the fly i feel nothing because the source isn't changing you know?... cd is a static media. it's finished. If i ask my drum machine to random change its pattern, program patterns waiting this random change, and mess with it live. if you can do it, and people still dance, it's ok. if they can't, it's ok also. quantization is not a problem. any good software can extract groove patterns, copy it to your lines and apply random changes to them (5% it's fine? ). in realtime. "real" instruments are old history. analog modeling is just one principle, you can use it or not, if you prefer. but it's better. and there isn't 'an analog modeling sound' as there isn't a 'kyma' sound. or a programmer sound. there is BAD musicians. which DSP systems do you use? anyone working outside the subtrative, additive (70's)/sampler (80's)/granular (90's)? these ways to generate sounds are not really new, we just find some ways to apply them. i like visuals. not all the time.
quoted 1 line In my defense... I never said sound design, synth composition or>In my defense... I never said sound design, synth composition or
performance were not legitimate art forms... I think they are great! maybe just not suited to live performance outside of the "artsy" IDM scene..... one of the most prejudice comments i've heard on this list.
quoted 1 line but I do need>but I do need
to have the feeling that SOMETHING NEW is being created, right there, or that something is being enacted. oh, that italian stage again... hey boys, nothing NEW IS CREATED! there's no mystical experience on stage! we just put your computers to work and try to impress ourselves. and IT'S NOT ENTERTAINMENT!
quoted 1 line if you are "expecting" to be given a show... then you should slap yourself>if you are "expecting" to be given a show... then you should slap yourself
right now. i thought the beauty of electonic music parties was to destroy the boundaries between crowd and entertainer. if you're "expecting" anything from any situation, other than the obvious... you might as well just throw in the towel and come home after your nine to five corporate job and turn on nbc's must see TV and say you got your dose of entertainment. good comment, zac. live experimentation is great. sound design live is great. unexpected errors live are great. ------------------------------------ Igor Medeiros igormpc@hotmail.com ICQ 2514964 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org