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2001-03-17 15:52p h o n kwell, there is no more reason for me to be on mp3.com. i 've been wanting to remove myself

From:: p h o n k <phonk@galactica.it>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:52:50 +0100
Subject:: [idm] mp3.com can go to hell

well, there is no more reason for me to be on mp3.com. i 've been wanting to remove myself from that shit for a long time, but the thought of giving away the $40 i had already made always made me rethink the situation. this is no longer true. reality is: you get a standard web page, which is not what most of artists want. you get sephora ads all the time, twice on your page. you do a lot of work to direct people on these mp3.com pages. what do you get in return? NOTHING. i have free web space. i have a homepage. and there my mp3s will go. no more bullshit. no more korporat fasc!zm (erm! :) ) i've been angry, i've put it aside. now it's the time to kick them off. how about a little DOS? :) phonk http://www.mp3.com/megaphonk ????? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-03-17 16:35j dmp3.com has a teenage marilyn manson tribute band under the name of posthuman. ha ha ha ht

From:: j d <oberheim_thief@yahoo.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:35:01 +0000 (GMT)
Subject:: Re: [idm] mp3.com can go to hell
Reply to:: [idm] mp3.com can go to hell

mp3.com has a teenage marilyn manson tribute band under the name of posthuman. ha ha ha http://posthuman.jaywalk.net --- p h o n k <phonk@galactica.it> wrote: > well, there is no more reason for me to be on

quoted 33 lines mp3.com.

> mp3.com. > i 've been wanting to remove myself from that shit > for a long time, but the > thought of giving away the $40 i had already made > always made me rethink the > situation. this is no longer true. > reality is: you get a standard web page, which is > not what most of artists > want. > you get sephora ads all the time, twice on your > page. > you do a lot of work to direct people on these > mp3.com pages. > what do you get in return? > NOTHING. > i have free web space. i have a homepage. and there > my mp3s will go. no more > bullshit. no more korporat fasc!zm (erm! :) ) > i've been angry, i've put it aside. now it's the > time to kick them off. > > how about a little DOS? > :) > > phonk > > http://www.mp3.com/megaphonk ????? > > > > > >

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2001-03-17 16:35M MercerI've never really understood this logic: This organization is providing you free web space

From:: M Mercer <vletrmx@hotmail.com>
To:: <phonk@galactica.it>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 11:35:41 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] mp3.com can go to hell

I've never really understood this logic: This organization is providing you free web space, the ability to upload and download an unlimited amount of music, and they're making it so dumbed-down easy to use that it's almost painful. Of course they require advertising! Do you know how much it probably costs them to maintain and run a site of this scope? Give them a break! I'd rather see a few ads on each page rather than no site at all. In terms of your "nothing in return" comment, what do you get in return when you get traffic on your OWN home page? A few hits on a web counter probably swiped from a different free service? (Or are you going to stick ads on your own home page, which would make you no different than mp3.com?) I understand your reasoning behind wanting to host your own site with more variety, and I don't blame you one bit: you'll get more of an identity, and you'll get a lot less "dear ___ i like your stuff, download all my tracks" spam mail. Standardized page design is lame, yes. But I guess there is a trade-off in that you get less immediate traffic to your site, no referrals, etc., unless you promote it heavily yourself. I personally think it would be a good idea to have both, in which case you have twice the audience potentially. just my thoughts..... i don't work for mp3.com or hugely endorse them or whatever, if this makes it seem that way. lately it just seems like backlash for the sake of backlash. good luck with your new site :-) matt

quoted 27 lines From: "p h o n k" <phonk@galactica.it>

>From: "p h o n k" <phonk@galactica.it> >To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: [idm] mp3.com can go to hell >Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 16:52:50 +0100 > >well, there is no more reason for me to be on mp3.com. >i 've been wanting to remove myself from that shit for a long time, but the >thought of giving away the $40 i had already made always made me rethink >the >situation. this is no longer true. >reality is: you get a standard web page, which is not what most of artists >want. >you get sephora ads all the time, twice on your page. >you do a lot of work to direct people on these mp3.com pages. >what do you get in return? >NOTHING. >i have free web space. i have a homepage. and there my mp3s will go. no >more >bullshit. no more korporat fasc!zm (erm! :) ) >i've been angry, i've put it aside. now it's the time to kick them off. > >how about a little DOS? >:) > >phonk > >http://www.mp3.com/megaphonk ?????

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2001-03-17 17:092811317939but zee problem here is that if you arent paying for the premium service now- there is an

From:: 2811317939 <2811317939@home.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 10:09:17 -0700
Subject:: Re: [idm] mp3.com can go to hell

but zee problem here is that if you arent paying for the premium service now- there is an unknown delay in approval of songs. they gave something, but then slowly are taking things away at a slow enough pace that the majority of people with either comply or accept. basically where this is headed is an email to all artists- 'if you do not sign up for our new minimal artist service, at 10.99 per month, your page will be deleted. thank you for your service and support.' theyre such sick/slick capitalist bastards. trying to have their hands in the pockets of both the music industry and the artists. which ultimately leads to the marginalization of the financially powerless artists to the desires of the music industry to maintain the status quo. internet as a shopping mall. we're already there. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-03-17 22:17DrTempuslet's see. $239.88 annually for the chance to earn back $19.99 each month and hopefully mo

From:: DrTempus <drtempus@home.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:17:54 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] mp3.com can go to hell

let's see. $239.88 annually for the chance to earn back $19.99 each month and hopefully more, while having to meet a 15 listens threshold per each 24-hour period. hmmm. 117,000 mp3 artists x $239.88 = 28.065950 Million.... hmmm. minus the 12.0 Million (for the 12 months of million pot) = 16.065960 Million for mp3. but wait...does mp3 ever pay out 1 Million a month? I think not. so I guess mp3.com makes only > 16 Million on Premium Artist Service. (without considering revenue generation from banner advertising.) ug. 2811317939 wrote:

quoted 20 lines but zee problem here is that if you arent paying for the premium service

> but zee problem here is that if you arent paying for the premium service > now- there is an unknown delay in approval of songs. they gave something, > but then slowly are taking things away at a slow enough pace that the > majority of people with either comply or accept. > > basically where this is headed is an email to all artists- 'if you do not > sign up for our new minimal artist service, at 10.99 per month, your page > will be deleted. thank you for your service and support.' > > theyre such sick/slick capitalist bastards. trying to have their hands in > the pockets of both the music industry and the artists. which ultimately > leads to the marginalization of the financially powerless artists to the > desires of the music industry to maintain the status quo. > > internet as a shopping mall. > we're already there. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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2001-03-17 23:06joe hohertsnippledick. these mudflaps arent merry. mp3.com is a business. this is a capitalist societ

From:: joe hoherts <endojo@hotmail.com>
To:: <drtempus@home.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 23:06:56 -0000
Subject:: Re: [idm] mp3.com can go to hell

nippledick. these mudflaps arent merry. mp3.com is a business. this is a capitalist society. serious cones. money is funny, honey

quoted 59 lines From: DrTempus <drtempus@home.com>

>From: DrTempus <drtempus@home.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] mp3.com can go to hell >Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:17:54 -0500 > >let's see. > >$239.88 annually for the chance to earn back $19.99 each month and >hopefully >more, >while having to meet a 15 listens threshold per each 24-hour period. > >hmmm. 117,000 mp3 artists x $239.88 = 28.065950 Million.... >hmmm. minus the 12.0 Million (for the 12 months of million pot) >= 16.065960 Million for mp3. > >but wait...does mp3 ever pay out 1 Million a month? I think not. > >so I guess mp3.com makes only > 16 Million on Premium Artist Service. >(without considering revenue generation from banner advertising.) > >ug. > > > > >2811317939 wrote: > > > but zee problem here is that if you arent paying for the premium service > > now- there is an unknown delay in approval of songs. they gave >something, > > but then slowly are taking things away at a slow enough pace that the > > majority of people with either comply or accept. > > > > basically where this is headed is an email to all artists- 'if you do >not > > sign up for our new minimal artist service, at 10.99 per month, your >page > > will be deleted. thank you for your service and support.' > > > > theyre such sick/slick capitalist bastards. trying to have their hands >in > > the pockets of both the music industry and the artists. which >ultimately > > leads to the marginalization of the financially powerless artists to the > > desires of the music industry to maintain the status quo. > > > > internet as a shopping mall. > > we're already there. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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2001-03-17 23:29component> > theyre such sick/slick capitalist bastards. trying to have their hands in > > the pock

From:: component <component@mindstorm.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 18:29:49 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] mp3.com can go to hell

quoted 4 lines theyre such sick/slick capitalist bastards. trying to have their hands in

> > theyre such sick/slick capitalist bastards. trying to have their hands in > > the pockets of both the music industry and the artists. which ultimately > > leads to the marginalization of the financially powerless artists to the > > desires of the music industry to maintain the status quo.

As for this statement. I think that the musician has more power today than they every have. Think about it: 1.Anyone with a computer can now make professional quality music(given that they have the talent and ideas). Its no longer an issue of who has the most expensive toys. 2. The web has given the artist the ability to create potential exposure all over the globe. 3. The cost of cd burners and blank media are at an all time low. I remember about 5 yrs ago paying $8 a piece for blank cdrs. What are they now 60 cents ? This beats the hell out of the blank tapes demos were passed around on a few yrs back. 4. The cost of manufacturing a cd has dropped conciderably in recent yrs as well Also, I think that if we should be getting pissed at any big music orginazation right now its the RIAA who are strongarming alot of policy these days. Rob ::::::Component Records::::::: Box 783, Somers, Ct 06071 www.componentrecords.com

quoted 26 lines but zee problem here is that if you arent paying for the premium service

> > but zee problem here is that if you arent paying for the premium service > > now- there is an unknown delay in approval of songs. they gave something, > > but then slowly are taking things away at a slow enough pace that the > > majority of people with either comply or accept. > > > > basically where this is headed is an email to all artists- 'if you do not > > sign up for our new minimal artist service, at 10.99 per month, your page > > will be deleted. thank you for your service and support.' > > > > theyre such sick/slick capitalist bastards. trying to have their hands in > > the pockets of both the music industry and the artists. which ultimately > > leads to the marginalization of the financially powerless artists to the > > desires of the music industry to maintain the status quo. > > > > internet as a shopping mall. > > we're already there. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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