I said he is not building hip hop from the ground up (or whatever that
ridiculous statement was) because he samples. He is not innovating because
he's not doing anything unique--there are tons of songs with hip hop vocals
or beats used as another stylistic element in the mix. Understandable
flows, which is to me the basis of what hip hop is, are what I feel is lacking.
It's just the "I'm the savior of hip-hop" attitude that got me (At least,
as was proposed by Warp, I have no idea what Scott's views are on his
work). Particularly it's contradictory to say you're building hip-hop from
the ground up, when you one of the main elements is just sampling and
rearranging it. What he is doing is not much different from any number of
"downtempo" artists (or whatever the genre is), like Kruder and Dorfmeister
or other such stuff. He's just doing it an awful lot better.
At 11:24 AM 2/16/2001 -0500, you wrote:
quoted 23 lines How can you say Scott isn't innovative just b/c he samples. First, that is
>How can you say Scott isn't innovative just b/c he samples. First, that is
>what most hip-hop is based on. Obviously OvER-sampling leads to
>un-original music, but the way he chops up his samples and adds his beats
>and synth work is genius. Well, at least I don't see anyone else coming
>close to his work, plus he pumps out like a new full length album every
>week, most of which are amazing (except backsome).
>
>I think we need to stop relating everyone to autechre, or other warp
>artists, let's face it, the industry's best are now led by a bunch of 20
>year old kids with computers, just ending puberty. I don't even consider
>Scott Herren part of warp, I think he just signed with them b/c they went
>after him, he is really a hefty/schematic boi! We need to start comparing
>everyone to people like lexaunculpt/hrvatski/delarosa-asora, etc. I mean,
>only BOC seems to be keeping up with thei industry on warp. Wait, tiny
>reminders was the shit.
>
>Oh, and I just heard confield the other day, luckily got a promo copy.
>It's very good, but autechre can still be over-repetitive, even though
>their sounds are fucking amazing. ANYyyyyyyways, you want innovative,
>check out scotts: slicker remixes, "paz suite 1", or "livin life" stuff.
>
>sincerely,
>citizen tao