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quoted 5 lines Could people throw back maybe the 5 or 10 records or artists I

>Could people throw back maybe the 5 or 10 records or artists I >absolutely have to listen to to get the musique concrete feel? This is a >genre I have not explored and I have a neighbor that seems like he knows >what he's talking about and wantsa to share, just want to make sure he's >not spouting steam.

steve reich "early works" (includes, "come out," "it's gonna rain," etc.) i forgot the name of the compilation (i feel like it's on caipirinha)but it includes pierre schaeffer, pierre henri, luc ferrari, and other cats. that's a good one. a real cool record that's not QUITE musique concrete but just came to mind is "I am sitting in a room" by alvin lucier. he records a lil speech describing what the track is about, plays it back in the room, records that, plays THAT back in the room, etc. etc. until all you hear are "the resonant frequencies of the room [reinforcing themselves]." not musique concrete but some cool ass shit with tape. :) umm... anyone else have any ideas? z _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 6 lines a real cool record that's not QUITE musique concrete but just came to mind

>a real cool record that's not QUITE musique concrete but just came to mind >is "I am sitting in a room" by alvin lucier. he records a lil speech >describing what the track is about, plays it back in the room, records that, >plays THAT back in the room, etc. etc. until all you hear are "the resonant >frequencies of the room [reinforcing themselves]." >not musique concrete but some cool ass shit with tape. :)

it's cool! Ryuichi Sakamoto opened his BTTB gig with the above alvin lucier's narration and looped it for about 10 mins! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, zachary mastoon wrote:

quoted 1 line steve reich "early works" (includes, "come out," "it's gonna

> steve reich "early works" (includes, "come out," "it's gonna rain," etc.)

Those particular works are great, though not concrete.

quoted 6 lines a real cool record that's not QUITE musique concrete but just came to mind

> a real cool record that's not QUITE musique concrete but just came to mind > is "I am sitting in a room" by alvin lucier. he records a lil speech > describing what the track is about, plays it back in the room, records that, > plays THAT back in the room, etc. etc. until all you hear are "the resonant > frequencies of the room [reinforcing themselves]." > not musique concrete but some cool ass shit with tape. :)

Not really cool ass shit with tape, more like cool ass shit with physical space. If you liked the Lovely version, you'll flip over an earlier version on a comp called "With a Minimum of Means" that was released a few years ago. I think the Wire did a pretty good primer on concrete/early electronics stuff. If I had to boil it down to a handful of records that are still availablem I'd probably pick the following three: o Iannis Xenakis- Electronic Music CD or Electro-Acoustic Music LP (unbelievable compositions with great attention to detail) o Pierre Henry- Variations on a Door and a Sigh/Veil of Orpheus CD on Harmonia Mundi (the former work a seminal examination on the expressive language of concrete, the latter a barn-burning symphonic work) o something by Francois Bayle or Bernard Parmegiani- either Erosphere or Son Vitesse-Lumiere by the former or Violostries by the latter. Most "electronic" sounding of the group & demonstrates the subtle, shimmering magic of their style in full force. Bayle was head of the GRM in Paris, which has been an epicenter of amazing electroacoustic works for decades. There's also an interesting item recently reissued by the GRM called "Solege de l'Objet Sonore" which is like an audio example book on musique concrete theory and execution. It comes with a tri-lingual book and is a pretty necessary listen to anybody who's serious about appreciating the artform. Borrow it from a friend and be amazed. -rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org