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quoted 1 line Has anyone heard the Black Faction (or

> Has anyone heard the Black Faction (or

Foreign Terrain?) on

quoted 1 line Soleilmoon? Any reviews on-line?

> Soleilmoon? Any reviews on-line?

short description: dreamy dubby, beaty, heavy on the bass. most melodies are pulled and sampled from traditional middle eastern music. nothing really sounds like live instrumentation... correct me if im wrong... the short tracks in-between on some parts are more interesting than the structured tracks mostly due to the vocal samples and washy soundscapes he creates..... but then again, if you don't understand what they're saying in pharsi in parts, im not sure how interesting it'd be. basically, get it. muslimgauze is gone. we needed a replacement. -kiya www.iamacopier.com iamacopulatorltd. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 11:29:42 -0500, Greg Clow <greg@stainedproductions.com> wrote:

quoted 13 lines The main reason that MiniDisc was viewed by many as a "failure" in North

>The main reason that MiniDisc was viewed by many as a "failure" in North >America after it's original introduction in the early '90s was the attempts >of the record industry to present it as a new pre-recorded music medium. >Digital Compact Cassette (DCC) was also introduced as in a similar way >around the same time. But since most people were already in the process >of >upgrading from vinyl to CD, they weren't interested. (Not to mention >the >fact that none of the major labels were backing both new formats - some >went with MD, some with DCC - meaning that mainstream music fans would >have >to buy TWO new pieces of hardware rather than choosing the format they >prefered.)

Its a shame that this never caught on here. I have had a minidisc player/recorder for the last 3 years and have purchased under 20 CDs since, probably one tenth of the number that I had purchased in the year previous. My opinion is that it was not only the people that chose not to go with MD, but it was the influence of the RIAA and such. Case in point: DVD vs. Laserdisk. The recording industry has not dropped the price on CDs in the last 15 years. MD was expensive at first, but its price has dropped. A premastered MD costs around 9 dollars at BestBuy or wherever. Why, if CD media has become so inexpensive: 25 cents or so a disk, whereas MDs cost about 1 dollar each, haven't CD prices dropped?

quoted 5 lines Thankfully, other markets (like Japan and the UK) recognised MDs real

>Thankfully, other markets (like Japan and the UK) recognised MDs real >usefulness was not as a replacement for CDs, but as a replacement for >cassettes as a home recording media. I use MD to record vinyl and MP3s >for >portable listening, and to record my live DJ sets. It's a good thing.

Here is the cool thing about that. In Japan, you can walk down the street and see a kiosk into which you place an MD with space left on it. for about a buck, you can purchase a song listed on a menu and have it put onto your MD. Pretty sweet, and yet, here in the US, they are just now starting to do that with MP3s via Crapster etc. What is flawed is that you can download MP3s via Gnutella or Freenet without charge ever, what is even more flawed is that people will be stupid enough to buy subscriptions to Napster and CuteMX or whatever else decides to pop up. I am new to the list, and usually I tend to lurk for a few weeks to get the vibe of the people on before I post, but this is a topic I have had quite a few conversations with my friends. Hopefully I didn't reitterate anything someone has already stated. -- genomaly -

At 11:57 AM 1/28/01, genomaly@hushmail.com wrote:

quoted 4 lines Its a shame that this never caught on here. I have had a minidisc

>Its a shame that this never caught on here. I have had a minidisc >player/recorder >for the last 3 years and have purchased under 20 CDs since, probably one >tenth of the number that I had purchased in the year previous.

Since you're new here, I'll give you some free advice - don't make a point of bragging about this sort of stuff on the list. Music piracy (MP3s, burning CDs, recording MDs, or whatever) is a fairly touchy subject here, especially since there are a lot of artists and label reps on the list, and I for one don't want to see another flamewar about this subject erupt. :)

quoted 3 lines My opinion

>My opinion >is that it was not only the people that chose not to go with MD, but it >was the influence of the RIAA and such. Case in point: DVD vs. Laserdisk.

I'm afraid I don't understand the analogy you're trying to make here. Neither DVD nor Laserdisc is a recordable format (well, there are recordable DVDs now, but it wasn't really an issue a couple of years ago). While I'm sure there was some behind the scenes corporate action that caused DVD to win out over Laserdisc as the digital video format of choice (much like the VHS/Beta battles of years gone by), I don't see how this has any similarity to the RIAA being against a digital music recording format like MiniDisc.

quoted 2 lines Why, if CD media has become so inexpensive: 25 cents or so a disk, whereas

>Why, if CD media has become so inexpensive: 25 cents or so a disk, whereas >MDs cost about 1 dollar each, haven't CD prices dropped?

Ask Steve Albini or Courtney Love. :) Seriously - there are loads of articles and essays regarding this subject all over the place, but the bottom line is blatant corporate greed combined with too many hands in the music production, distribution and retail business.

quoted 5 lines Here is the cool thing about that. In Japan, you can walk down the street

>Here is the cool thing about that. In Japan, you can walk down the street >and see a kiosk into which you place an MD with space left on it. for about >a buck, you can purchase a song listed on a menu and have it put onto your >MD. Pretty sweet, and yet, here in the US, they are just now starting to >do that with MP3s via Crapster etc.

Yeah, but you can also buy panties worn by teenage girls from vending machines in Japan. :) It's a very different culture. Similar initiatives in North America, like "make your own compilation CD" kiosks in record stores, have rarely gained popularity, even in the days before Napster/MP3. Greg -- Greg Clow - greg@stainedproductions.com - greg@feedbackmonitor.com concert & event promotions - http://www.stainedproductions.com electronic music radio/reviews/interviews - http://www.feedbackmonitor.com 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor - Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 - Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Check out http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-46401/DARK/index.html It's hilarious. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 01:43 PM 1/24/01, you wrote:

quoted 4 lines Check out

>Check out >http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-46401/DARK/index.html > >It's hilarious.

Oh. My. God. I'm dyin' here! I was going to post just one of these to the list, but I couldn't decide which was my favorite (although House and "Jungel" are pretty fucking hilarious) - so here's the whole damn list: A GUIDE TO RAVEMUSIC by DJ d'Alien Here follows a description of every style of ravemusic, who listens to it, what does it sound like, example of song and how fast is it (RPM). STYLES GOA - The original ravemusic which all the experienced ravers listen to. Astral Projection - Mahadeva. 170-200 RPM Trance - Like Goa but newer and not as good. Some ravers listen to it.Antiloop - Start Rocking. 130-140 RPM Techno - Boring and with lots of song, they often play it on the radio. Wannabe ravers listen to it. Stardust - Music Sounds Better With You. 110-115 RPM House - Gaymusic. Gays listen to it. Dont know of any song, im not gay! 120 RPM Jungel - This is not rave it is like HipHop but made by white people. White HipHopers listen to it. Eminem - Stan. About 50 RPM Elektro - 80's techno. No one listens to in now, its 2001! All songs by Jeff Mils. 100 RPM -- Greg Clow - greg@stainedproductions.com - greg@feedbackmonitor.com concert & event promotions - http://www.stainedproductions.com electronic music radio/reviews/interviews - http://www.feedbackmonitor.com 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor - Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 - Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org