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2001-01-08 21:15brian albersIt was a few months back when I asked for suggestions for harder/noisier things along the

From:: brian albers <brianalbers@hotmail.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:15:24
Subject:: [idm] looking for more hard beats

It was a few months back when I asked for suggestions for harder/noisier things along the same lines as Somatic Responses or Imminent Starvation. I got a handful of responses and in the time since then have persued some of them. But it's been frustrating in that they've seemed to fall for the most part into the dreaded drum 'n' bass catagory. Venetian Snares, Dj Scud/Aphastic/Ambush Records, I even found an Atomly 12" out here in LA- not all bad, but still not exactly what I'm looking for. So if anybody has any leads to non-dnb artists with a serious evil streak in 'em, I'm all ears. Is there anything out there which is like a cross between Skinny Puppy, Speedy J, Speedranch Janskynoise and Richard Devine? Ya, I know, sounds like a bit of a pipe dream, but thought I'd ask. I'm also still on the hunt for all the old Richard Devine 12"s as well as the new Surface 10 cd because from what I can tell, they might be right up my alley. Much thanks. Brian _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-01-08 21:29atomlyOn Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 09:15:24PM +0000, brian albers wrote: > It was a few months back w

From:: atomly <atomly@atomly.com>
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Date:: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:29:27 -0600
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On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 09:15:24PM +0000, brian albers wrote:

quoted 2 lines It was a few months back when I asked for suggestions for harder/noisier

> It was a few months back when I asked for suggestions for harder/noisier > things along the same lines as Somatic Responses or Imminent Starvation.

Check out anything by Laurent Ho (AKA HO.EXE) and anything on Uncivilized World... It's basicaly hard, noisy techno... Very good stuff (and he's an amazing DJ- see him if you get the chance). You might also like some older Doormouse or Unibomber stuff (before they started doing dnb) which just got repressed (http://www.angelfire.com/boybands/addict) and would probably love a lot of the stuff that Bombardier has done... Check out his new mix CD which on Low Res... It should be coming out soon and it's awesome: http://www.lowres.com/d13

quoted 3 lines I got a handful of responses and in the time since then have persued some of

> I got a handful of responses and in the time since then have persued some of > them. But it's been frustrating in that they've seemed to fall for the most > part into the dreaded drum 'n' bass catagory.

Pretty much all of the harder stuff now has moved into a D&B style... People could only tweak the filter on a compressed 909 kick for so long before they got bored. :P

quoted 2 lines Venetian Snares, Dj Scud/Aphastic/Ambush Records, I even found an Atomly 12"

> Venetian Snares, Dj Scud/Aphastic/Ambush Records, I even found an Atomly 12" > out here in LA- not all bad, but still not exactly what I'm looking for.

Yea, that would all be breaks oriented stuff... Try Scud's release on kool.pop from last year, that's less dnb and more straight up hardcore.

quoted 3 lines I'm also still on the hunt for all the old Richard Devine 12"s as well as

> I'm also still on the hunt for all the old Richard Devine 12"s as well as > the new Surface 10 cd because from what I can tell, they might be right up > my alley.

Do anything to get the Richard Devine "Polymorphic EP" on SixSixtySix. Actually, pick up anything on SSS- you'll most likely like it. -- :: atomly :: atomly@atomly.com | atomly@atdot.org | atomly@curiousnetworks.com http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-01-08 22:32AndreiOn Mon, 8 Jan 2001, brian albers wrote: > So if anybody has any leads to non-dnb artists w

From:: Andrei <andrei@world.std.com>
To:: brian albers <brianalbers@hotmail.com>
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Date:: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 17:32:52 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] looking for more hard beats
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On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, brian albers wrote:

quoted 4 lines So if anybody has any leads to non-dnb artists with a serious evil streak in

> So if anybody has any leads to non-dnb artists with a serious evil streak in > 'em, I'm all ears. Is there anything out there which is like a cross between > Skinny Puppy, Speedy J, Speedranch Janskynoise and Richard Devine? Ya, I > know, sounds like a bit of a pipe dream, but thought I'd ask.

Hrvatski is kinda like that sometimes (maybe not too much Skinny Puppy). Actually the Hrvatki album that's gonna come out on Planet-Mu will have some really aggressive stuff. Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-01-08 21:18Jordan Harecheck out porter ricks vs techno animal, that's pretty dark stuff btw don't diss drum n ba

From:: Jordan Hare <Jordan.Hare@msdw.com>
To:: brian albers <brianalbers@hotmail.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 16:18:43 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] looking for more hard beats

check out porter ricks vs techno animal, that's pretty dark stuff btw don't diss drum n bass unless you want an earful brian albers wrote:

quoted 29 lines It was a few months back when I asked for suggestions for harder/noisier

> > It was a few months back when I asked for suggestions for harder/noisier > things along the same lines as Somatic Responses or Imminent Starvation. > > I got a handful of responses and in the time since then have persued some of > them. But it's been frustrating in that they've seemed to fall for the most > part into the dreaded drum 'n' bass catagory. > > Venetian Snares, Dj Scud/Aphastic/Ambush Records, I even found an Atomly 12" > out here in LA- not all bad, but still not exactly what I'm looking for. > > So if anybody has any leads to non-dnb artists with a serious evil streak in > 'em, I'm all ears. Is there anything out there which is like a cross between > Skinny Puppy, Speedy J, Speedranch Janskynoise and Richard Devine? Ya, I > know, sounds like a bit of a pipe dream, but thought I'd ask. > > I'm also still on the hunt for all the old Richard Devine 12"s as well as > the new Surface 10 cd because from what I can tell, they might be right up > my alley. > > Much thanks. > Brian > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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2001-01-08 22:09Dave--- brian albers <brianalbers@hotmail.com> wrote: > Venetian Snares, Dj Scud/Aphastic/Ambu

From:: Dave <vivisext@yahoo.com>
To:: brian albers <brianalbers@hotmail.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:09:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] looking for more hard beats

--- brian albers <brianalbers@hotmail.com> wrote:

quoted 13 lines Venetian Snares, Dj Scud/Aphastic/Ambush Records, I

> Venetian Snares, Dj Scud/Aphastic/Ambush Records, I > even found an Atomly 12" > out here in LA- not all bad, but still not exactly > what I'm looking for. > > So if anybody has any leads to non-dnb artists with > a serious evil streak in > 'em, I'm all ears. Is there anything out there which > is like a cross between > Skinny Puppy, Speedy J, Speedranch Janskynoise and > Richard Devine? Ya, I > know, sounds like a bit of a pipe dream, but thought > I'd ask.

Coil very diverse, but makers of some of the most gut wrenching music out there. Nurse With Wound also very diverse. Masonna, Maldoror, Merzbow. Blectom from Blechdom is also quite interesting, kid 606 also makes some pretty hard stuff. Muslimgauze, mego, v/vm. A lot of those artists have pretty diverse releases but are definetely worth checking out. My favorites probably being v/vm (nothing gets weirder) and Coil. ===== -- -dave "I went to a restaurant that serves `breakfast at any time'. So I ordered French Toast during the Renaissance." -Steven Wright __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-01-08 23:40Wightman, Scott W-----Original Message----- From: atomly [mailto:atomly@atomly.com] Sent: 08 January 2001 2

From:: Wightman, Scott W <swwigh@essex.ac.uk>
To:: 'idm@hyperreal.org' <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:40:52 -0000
Subject:: [idm] FW: [idm] looking for more hard beats

-----Original Message----- From: atomly [mailto:atomly@atomly.com] Sent: 08 January 2001 21:29 To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] looking for more hard beats On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 09:15:24PM +0000, brian albers wrote:

quoted 2 lines It was a few months back when I asked for suggestions for harder/noisier

> It was a few months back when I asked for suggestions for harder/noisier > things along the same lines as Somatic Responses or Imminent Starvation.

quoted 1 line I got a handful of responses and in the time since then have persued some

> I got a handful of responses and in the time since then have persued some

quoted 1 line them. But it's been frustrating in that they've seemed to fall for the

> them. But it's been frustrating in that they've seemed to fall for the

most

quoted 1 line part into the dreaded drum 'n' bass catagory.

> part into the dreaded drum 'n' bass catagory.

Pretty much all of the harder stuff now has moved into a D&B style... People could only tweak the filter on a compressed 909 kick for so long before they got bored. :P

quoted 1 line Venetian Snares, Dj Scud/Aphastic/Ambush Records, I even found an Atomly

> Venetian Snares, Dj Scud/Aphastic/Ambush Records, I even found an Atomly

12"

quoted 1 line out here in LA- not all bad, but still not exactly what I'm looking for.

> out here in LA- not all bad, but still not exactly what I'm looking for.

Yea, that would all be breaks oriented stuff... Try Scud's release on kool.pop from last year, that's less dnb and more straight up hardcore.

quoted 2 lines I'm also still on the hunt for all the old Richard Devine 12"s as well as

> I'm also still on the hunt for all the old Richard Devine 12"s as well as > the new Surface 10 cd because from what I can tell, they might be right up

quoted 1 line my alley.

> my alley.

2001-01-09 00:11alland[byallo]i hope i'm shooting at the same realm of sound here, but i've been pretty happy with anyth

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Date:: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:11:52 -0800
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i hope i'm shooting at the same realm of sound here, but i've been pretty happy with anything that's Pounding Grooves. a. "Musicians . . . own music because music owns them." Virgil Thomson (1896 - 1989) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-01-09 00:12joshtwentythreethe problem I have with pounding grooves is they all end up sounding the same...kinda what

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Date:: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:12:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] FW: [idm] looking for more hard beats

the problem I have with pounding grooves is they all end up sounding the same...kinda what turned me off to drumcode and subsounds and that sort too...but those are good labels to look at too...for a little bit, future frontier has stuff along those lines as well...but this is all swedish techno...umm...Oliver Ho is fairly dark, really dark...but not neccesarily hard...but hard enough...Blueprint is a good label to look at...Meta too...I got something from a label called Convolute, which is really good, dunno what the rest of the label sounds like, but look out for it...Plastikman? the new PK single is really hard and really dark...Light and Dark(another Oliver Ho label)more good hard stuff...this is just off the top of my head...uhh...yeah... josh23 --- "alland[byallo]" <alland@humbledesign.com> wrote:

quoted 11 lines i hope i'm shooting at the same realm of sound here,

> i hope i'm shooting at the same realm of sound here, > but i've been pretty happy with anything that's > Pounding Grooves. > > a. > > "Musicians . . . own music because music owns them." > Virgil Thomson (1896 - 1989) > > >

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2001-01-09 17:28Nick Zavriev> So if anybody has any leads to non-dnb artists with a serious evil streak in > 'em, I'm

From:: Nick Zavriev <ambi@mu.ru>
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Date:: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 20:28:31 +0300
Subject:: Re: [idm] looking for more hard beats

quoted 1 line So if anybody has any leads to non-dnb artists with a serious evil streak

> So if anybody has any leads to non-dnb artists with a serious evil streak

quoted 1 line 'em, I'm all ears. Is there anything out there which is like a cross

> 'em, I'm all ears. Is there anything out there which is like a cross

between

quoted 2 lines Skinny Puppy, Speedy J, Speedranch Janskynoise and Richard Devine? Ya, I

> Skinny Puppy, Speedy J, Speedranch Janskynoise and Richard Devine? Ya, I > know, sounds like a bit of a pipe dream, but thought I'd ask.

Check out anything by 2ND Gen. He's a got at least 2 records out: 'Against Nature' on NovaMute and one more on an Australlian (?) label called 'Flo'. I don't know if these records are still available (both were released around 97-98), but this is what you need: harder and noisier than 'shocking hobby' and without any signs of d&b :) Cylob's "Industrial Folk Songs" on Rephlex also a classic braincrashing record. Nick. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-01-09 22:00atomlyOn Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 08:28:31PM +0300, Nick Zavriev wrote: > on NovaMute Oooh, that rem

From:: atomly <atomly@atomly.com>
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Date:: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:00:18 -0600
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On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 08:28:31PM +0300, Nick Zavriev wrote:

quoted 1 line on NovaMute

> on NovaMute

Oooh, that reminds me! DEFINITELY check out some Panasonic... Some of their stuff is probably exactly what you want. -- :: atomly :: atomly@atomly.com | atomly@atdot.org | atomly@curiousnetworks.com http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-01-09 23:32andrij kopytkoAt 08:28 PM 1/9/01 +0300, you wrote: >Check out anything by 2ND Gen. He's a got at least 2

From:: andrij kopytko <ogre@netaxs.com>
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Date:: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 18:32:12 -0500
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At 08:28 PM 1/9/01 +0300, you wrote:

quoted 6 lines Check out anything by 2ND Gen. He's a got at least 2 records out: 'Against

>Check out anything by 2ND Gen. He's a got at least 2 records out: 'Against >Nature' on NovaMute and one more on an Australlian (?) label called 'Flo'. I >don't know if these records are still available (both were released around >97-98), but this is what you need: harder and noisier than 'shocking hobby' >and without any signs of d&b :) Cylob's "Industrial Folk Songs" on Rephlex >also a classic braincrashing record.

Also check out Ant-Zen Records. -- andrij. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-01-10 01:43Dave Segalon 1/9/01 9:28 AM, Nick Zavriev at ambi@mu.ru wrote: >> So if anybody has any leads to non

From:: Dave Segal <segal@altpress.com>
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Date:: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 17:43:30 -0800
Subject:: Re: [idm] looking for more hard beats
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on 1/9/01 9:28 AM, Nick Zavriev at ambi@mu.ru wrote:

quoted 15 lines So if anybody has any leads to non-dnb artists with a serious evil streak

>> So if anybody has any leads to non-dnb artists with a serious evil streak > in >> 'em, I'm all ears. Is there anything out there which is like a cross > between >> Skinny Puppy, Speedy J, Speedranch Janskynoise and Richard Devine? Ya, I >> know, sounds like a bit of a pipe dream, but thought I'd ask. > > Check out anything by 2ND Gen. He's a got at least 2 records out: 'Against > Nature' on NovaMute and one more on an Australlian (?) label called 'Flo'. I > don't know if these records are still available (both were released around > 97-98), but this is what you need: harder and noisier than 'shocking hobby' > and without any signs of d&b :) Cylob's "Industrial Folk Songs" on Rephlex > also a classic braincrashing record. > > Nick.

2nd Gen's debut album, Irony Is, comes out 20 Feb. on NovaMute. I highly recommend it to those who like the kind of music mentioned above. The And/Or EP that precedes it has wicked remixes by Techno Animal/Dalek, Buckfunk 3000 and Cold Kid. Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative Press Secret Ions on WCSB 89.3FM Thursdays 9-11PM EST [www.wcsb.org] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org